A huge L

I thought y'all liked children?

Don't look at me. I'm not a pro lifer.

Ok. Well, you don't have to be a pro-lifer to want to see children with, like, clothes and food and daycares and shit like that. Heat in the winter. A home with running water. Whatever.

Immigrants come here because they have suffered and then they become successful, in many cases more successful than European descendants.

Blacks on the other hand are always on the bottom of the economic scale because of crap like this. Help is not freebies and this will hurt black people just as the democrats always have.

You've not understood the aims of anti-poverty programs at all.

oh how horribly racist. I think you mean a win for nontraditional family structure, immigrants who want to start families, and underprivileged communities.

What's more priviledged than families that don't have to work to get by? This has been done to death(giving money to people that don't deserve it) and it has only created the situation that you think is "unequitable" even though the Democrats have been in charge of the ghettos for 40 years. What brain dead logic.

Soooo racist. OK parrot. Can you maybe excercise your brain for a second instead of resorting to that chestnut. What a pathetic excuse for a human.

A win for nontraditional family structure. Nasty. People are better off having a man and woman role model in there family. As divorce has gone up so has mental illness. I'm sure you will say c vs c on that one because I can guess your entire personality from that garbage post.

They CAN'T "deserve" it - they're children. They haven't even begun to make their choices yet.

Okay, babykiller.

It's not about deserve. It's about incentivizing. You don't incentive people having kids without incentizing good citizenship. That's what the earned income credit is all about and it was passed by Clinton and the Dems because they had some logic once upon a time. I would rather have UBI than this carte blanche.

The poster mentioned nontraditional families. Do you have any idea what this will do to singles without kids. Homelessness will skyrocket. Divorce and bitter fighting will skyrocket. It's not a good path.

OK, tell that to you from 20 minutes ago, then. It was your word.

Nobody deserves government money for nothing. Is that clear enough?

Money is compensation for productivity. Government devalues money when they hand it out. When that happens those that own stay the same and those that don't also stay the same or get worse. It's pretty simple stuff. People keep thinking they are going to change the balance of wealth and power with this nonsense, but the only thing the left does is increase the size of the lower class.

They're children. If you want them to do something for their money, they first have to survive the next 18 years with an education. They can't pay for that themselves. They're children.

Ok well then here's a compromise. Allow it for two kids only. You know the kids don't get the money, the parents do so the whole money for kids thing is a scam but at least this way you don't incentivize people to make more kids for moneys sake than there are the people required to make kids.

Are you under the impression that people turn a profit from child support???????

I have been a tax preparer, I know you can make a profit from child support.

Why don't you answer the question?

You REALLY can't. The point is to take a dent out of the expenses of childcare. If you're SUPER progressive like me, you'll advocate for covering ALL the costs of childcare, but I've never met ANYONE who'd want to offer the kind of money on the table that would make it a business venture to squirt out as many kids as possible.

How dare people enter a country in possibly the only way they can to start a family. Polygamy really isn't a thing as much as you apparently think it is. A lot people have kids that they can't afford even though they work multiple jobs. But you're right let's let children f**king starve because of our structurally f**ked up economy and class system. Immigrants, nontraditional families and children in underprivileged communities don't deserve to live. This post is racist. The term "anchor baby" is racist rhetoric against central/South American immigrants having children. If someone came illegally from Poland or Germany or Sweden or any other predominantly white country, and had a kid on US soil not one of you f**kup republicans would bat an eye. I do say correlation v causation on your bullshit because mental health issues have existed since the dawn of time. It is only recently that society has made it acceptable to talk openly about. Divorce is up because America is pulling away from your idyllic, oppressive, uber-white, "traditional" christian idea of what family is. Two men and a child is a family. Two women and a child is a family. Three men a woman and 5 children is a family. If all you care about is 1 man 1 woman and not whether the relationship between spouses/partners and children is loving then you really don't care about family values at all.

Traditional family is oppressive and white. You, sir, are a dumbass.

The idea of traditional family structure is outdated and dumb.

Why? You think families are better today??? lololololol

I think that it is a good thing that society is more accepting of non "traditional" families and is diversifying what family means. How are families worse today.

Thanks for actually giving me a good reply this time :) you make some very good points.

I would still call someone from Poland an anchor baby lol

I think our society is f'ed up because of corporations and the elite, and all the solutions offered by the Democrats are corporation approved because its all about destroying the individual and consolidating power in cartels.

Like I said to anti I would prefer a 2 kid cap or straight UBI to this.

You might but if you look at more influential f**kup republicans like Tomi Lahren who is legitimately racist they wouldn't bat an eye at white immigrants who have children on US soil

Lahren is racist, huh? How so?

Someone hasn't seen the Trevor Noah interview

Point out what was racist. Was it that she had a black fiancé?

just because someone is close with a person of another race doesn't mean they are not racist

Not an argument. Provide what she said that was racist.

More evidence she isn't then you've provided, little delicate snowflake.

I see we're using the original insults

Remove the word racist and replace it with 'allowed to criticize things that they feel need addressing'.

And you'd be right.

Both parties are garbage and need to be dissolved. We have the internet now. No reason we couldn't vote for individuals instead of party.

We as a society need to stop pussyfooting around the idea of dismantling the 2 party system and just do it