GOP destroyed US global reputation today

We all must agree or we are complicit. Silence is violence. We are all a part of white privilede and systemic racism. Polly wants a cracker. Aaakk. Whose clues? Blues clues. Aaak. A clue. Aaaak impeach Trump.

Nobody said we must all agree nor that those that don't are complict in some nefarious thing. However, when individuals deliberately choose to ignore facts presented before their very eyes - much like when Spicer declared Trump's inauguration in 2016 was the largest in US history when it clearly was not based on photos from both his and Obama's inauguration - something is clearly going wrong in an individual's thought processes.

Oh goodness, you missed out on that on this site then?
Same hair pulling hissy fit Trumpites screaming it was the biggest ever, meme upon meme showing anything from a close up of the packed front saying, "SEE! SEE! It's packed to the brim!" to - get this - a reverse of the side by sides with Obama's made to look like the lower turnout and Trump's the bigger. This went on for weeks, and even after corrected and shown the pics were switched, they just screamed, "FAKE MSM NEWZ!!!!!".

Nope, 43 GOP senators proved today they not only have no ethics with regards to honesty and integrity but further, that maintaining power and their political careers were more important to them their sworn oath to preserve, protect and uphold the constitution of the US

You feel that way about the Trump/Putin collusion hoax you crybabies whined about for 3 years?

I think you're mistaking me for being someone that foolishly engages in identity politics, which apparently is something you're into. I can just as easily identify and call out the corruptions of the Dems as I can the GOP, as my own value system places a higher priority on honesty and ethics than it does fitting into some artificial political social construct.

Good for you, a rare rational liberal, not inundated with leftist indoctrination. Or so you claim. Yet you seem so typical. No mention of the bold face lies that Dan talked about. Funny, that.

I'm not governed by the doctrines of any given political party because I was taught from a very young age that I would encounter many individuals in life - both upstanding individuals and those that were completely corrupt - and to choose wisely as to those I would align myself with, as there are consequences to every decision one makes for either good or ill.

That sounds very noble. Yet, where does the truth lie?

Trump is guilty over Jan 6th, yet no other politician is guilty over 2020 03 - 12? Is that your case?

Try not to ignore my question this time.

I don't know you so I can only go off of this. Hopefully you are what you claim. A classical liberal. Yet they are few and far between. Convince me. Criticise a democrat.

I don't know what you perceive to be a classic liberal any more than what perceive to be a die hard republican stance and couldn't care less. Yes, I support human rights, equality for all, protection for the environment, etc, but I also agree in personal responsibility, limited governmental intervenion in personal affairs, and keeping taxation low.

I criticized many policies Obama endorsed and implemented during his tenure, which ran counter to his position as a US senator. That pissed off many people within my own family. Their thought was 'How could I do that?' as they viewed him as the best thing that happened to the US in decades.

Personally, what truly disgusted me was not only his continued support and expansion of many of Bush's most egregious policies - many of which he promised to shut down once in office - but further, blatantly lying to the American public about being able to keep their healthcare provider once 'Obamacare' was enacted.

How about free speech? That thing classic liberals use to care about?

And now Biden lied right off the bat about issuing checks immediately if he got the senate. But anyway, fair enough, most dems won't dare say anything negative about King Obama.

I've got plenty of criticisms about a number of Obama's policies including how he ended up prosecuting more whistleblowers than all other administrations combined even though he ran on the promise of providing greater whistleblower protections, and the expansion of the NSA's spy programs that by default hoover up and store everyone's communications within the US.

sure thing, Timmy.

The GOP's have no ethics with regards to honesty and integrity? Did you watch the entire trial? Did you see when the defences attorneys destroyed the managers and their so called evidence being fabricated? No where in any of their so called evidence did they prove that Trump actually incited any violence. They went on and on about "look at the context" but then removed the most important context. The house managers even went as far as blaming Trump supporters for burning down a church when it was antifa that did that and they included clips of an antifa member's recording. So yes, 43 GOP senators acquitted an innocent man. Even if he was guilty, there was ZERO constitutional grounds to impeach him. If he was guilty, then he should've been tried in supreme court as a private citizen. So take a look at the entirety of the trial before spreading your bad opinions.

You expect a leftist to acknowledge their hypocrisies?

Yes, I watched the entire trial and being an individual that has actually spent multiple decades in the legal profession - including the AG office - could easily discern when BS legal arguments were being presented by Trump's counsel. While they may appear highly convincing to those without a legal background, they actually have no legal merit at all, somewhat like Trump's claims he won the election by a landslide.

Ok, I believe you're full of bs, but let me entertain the idea that as you put "being an individual that has actually spent multiple decades in the legal profession"... if you actually were, then you would know that ANY, AND I MEAN ANY, case as to where the prosecuting team was caught doctoring evidence - that case would be immediately ended by mistrial, the defendant would be free to go, and the prosecutor could and probably would a) lose their job, and or, b) be given a pretty hefty fine.
So despite what you believe them to have any legal merit, that doesnt matter in this point I'm making.

True, one cannot legally doctor evidence to mislead the court as to evidenc without serious repercussions. I assume you're referring to the recreated tweets that had the added check mark, the draft document with the incorrect date shown in the photo of Raskin sitting in front of his computer and the video clips.

With respect to the first issue, that tweet was a recreation of the original as Trump's twitter account is no longer accessible. The re-creation mistakenly added the checkmark but the text itself was entirely accurate, which was the information on which they were relying upon.

With regards to the 2nd issue about the wrong date, that was a draft document that was corrected before it was presented on the Senate floor.

The videos themselves are not in fact classified as doctored by House or Senate rules. They were merely edited to highlight key points into a single narrative. They did not contain audio-visual distortions or splice together words to make someone say something they didn’t say. As such, they did not breach any legal or ethical lines in their presentation.

Also, they added wrongly that it was trump supporters that burned down a church, that police were "impaled", that they were armed where the only weapons I saw were pepper spray, that Trump denied the national guard when Trump, in fact, offered to send 10 thousand national guard before the event took place and was denied because it would look bad. Everyone from the DC police up to the CIA and FBI knew something was going to happen. Most of the things the managers claimed were down right lies and manipulation of facts to try and blame someone for something that was planned "by both the right and the left" weeks in advance on Facebook. Just because some people did some very bad things does NOT make it Trump's fault unless he directly told them to do so. Would you blame a rappers for some one shooting a police officer?
Unfortunately, that's the left's narrative. Basically -Don't blame the shooter, blame the gun and sue the manufacturer. Or "believe all women" unless they're accusing a Democrat. Or what Pelosi, Kamala Harris, AOC, and other Democrat lawmakers and government officials say to actually incite violence is ok (including when they say 'fight like hell')... but somehow saying to march peacefully and patriotic to cheer on the lawmakers is somehow inciting violence?

It's apparent to me that you want to defend Trump and his actions in every possible conceivable way you can think of and are using information provided exclusively by the right wing media outlets to support such.

Need I remind you that those very same media outlets promoted Trump's big lie that he had actually won the election for monts - which was never true - or the fact that multiple high ranking Republicans officials across the county have gone on the record - including Mitch McConnell - completely discounted his claim about the election while also acknowledging he was directly responsible for the riot on January 6th.

As further evidence destroying Trump's BS claim he won the election, Fox (and a number of their hosts), OANN, Newsmax and a number of Trump's most sychophant legal supporters (including Rudy Giuliani, Lin Wood, Sydney Powell) are currently all facing multiple billion dollar lawsuits against them for spreading blatant lies and pure political propaganda without any foundation in truth at all.

Yes, I will defend him. I believe him to be innocent of inciting an insurrection.

Haha, wow, didn't plant the seed, literally with the fraudulent Steele 'dossier', cuz they thought they had it in the bag... until after. Keep truckin', bro.

My guess is, had it situation been reversed and it was the Dems that planted the seed 5 months prior to election that if they didn't win it was only because it was rigged and kept repeating that over and over again and then proceeded to do everything the Republicans did post election with their blantant lie about it being stolen, etc., you would automatically believe Biden incited the insurrection and think the Senators that didn't convict him were traitors.

No, actually I wouldn't. But to be fair, if you look at history, the Democrats actually did almost do the same thing. Clinton claimed that "even if you have the strongest campaign, the election can still be stolen" and Pelosi said that the election was stolen. And then leftists rioted at the capitol on inauguration day, burning cars, destroying businesses and attacking police. No one remembers that though. Then they spent the next 3 years citing that the election was fraud with zero actual evidence. Did I believe that Clinton actually won? No, however, i waited for the outcome of the trial and if it went to convict, I would accept it.

They omitted words and phrases to make it seem like he said something he didn't.

No, what they did was edit out extraneous information that had already been published worldwide to highlight the most pertinent points of their argument, knowing full well the entirety of any speech Trump can still easily be found online. That happens in legal cases all the time.

Now, do you need me to give you a full accounting of all disinformation and blatant lies Trump's legal provided?

You lie for a living lol

Without realizing it, you just proved yourself to be someone easily manipulated and gullible to political BS rhetoric based on your blanket statement. Yes, there are corrupt lawyers - much like Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, Lin Wood et al - but there are also those that will always uphold the highest ethics standards no matter what. Never paint all with the same brush.

Gee, only republican lawyers are dishonest?

Without realizing it, you proved your dishonest bias to a tee.

Thanks, simpleton! Remember me the next time you lie through your teeth for a client... that pays you money. Never forget the average Joe despises your lying ass.

Did I say all republicans were dishonest? No! You jumped to that conclusion based merely on the individuals I named, which currently are all facing disbarment due to promoting Trump's election lies while also facing billion dollar defamation lawsuits due to such.

Yet you only named Republicans. Don't blame me for your biases!

Someone with a history in legal would know the constitution and the law well enough to know things like innocent until proven guilty and that the onerous is on the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

The fact that Trump wasn't convicted of a crime first before the impeachment, and would never be in a real criminal court, when that is basically the prerequisite of impeachment as laid out by the constitution, proves the whole dog and pony show was just the left flexing its power to do whatever they wanted law be damned.

Lastly, the fact you revel in this blatant bending of the laws to silence those you disagree with shows what kind of person you are.

Not sure you replied to the right post.

Impeachment trials are strictly political events and are not governed by the same rules as either civil litigation or criminal trials. Even if Trump had been convicted, the worst thing that would have happened to him is to be barred from holding public office ever again. It would not have led to any type of prison sentence.

Though acquitted in the impeachment trial, he is however still legally liable for any criminal actions he took while in office and can be prosecuted for same.