The media makes judgements without giving details

"Trial by combat"

It should have never been necessary. While I do not agree with the methods, politicians have ignored the dissatisfaction of the voters of both sides for years. They built the fire and now blame Trump for lighting it. Unfortunately, they will focus on the violence and remain deaf to the message.

I will be glad to see Trump gone. But the political and media hitjobs, sensationalist reporting, duplicity, lies and bias with which he was attacked bothers me more than anything else we have seen over the past four years.

He deserved every go***mned word of it and then some. The man has proven himself to be every bit as bad as we said he was and people like you still think there's a softball pitch we could have thrown him. This is ridiculous.

Not softball. Politically neutral would suffice. If anyone had bothered to take the high road he would have shown himself as the big undisciplined baby that he is. But no, people like Pelosi had show their ass and reciprocate his unprofessionalism. And the media has been even worse.

He DID show himself as the big undisciplined baby. There's no if about it.

You say "deaf to the message."
As far as I am concerned, the message was "MASSIVE election fraud" which is not only the greatest lie and hoax in American history, but also caused the greatest divide in this country in 160+ years.

Whatever the penalty for sedition or insurrection is, I strongly feel that tRUMPf, tRUMPf Jr., Guiliani, Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz, and Howley should all face it. They are among the greatest enemies the US has ever known. Remember...inciting a violent crime is the same as committing that violent crime. Just ask Charlie Manson.

You have to prove intent.

I think the intent is obvious to everyone except tRUMPf apologists.

Perhaps, but you still have to prove that in court. Good luck.

"Prove in court." You are funny. Considering "proving" in court is one thing tRUMPf has never been able to do, but his retard cult keeps supporting his lies anyway. So we support the movement to impeach tRUMPf based on the fact that he incited violent insurrection. MASSIVE MASSIVE amounts of evidence. They are discovering witnesses every hour. Facts are facts.

Really. Funny how no one has yet answered the question of the meme. What did he say that you think proves that he intended for the crowd to break into the Capitol building? I think he was just being Trump -- using a lot of emotionally laden language to stir up his supporters. That happens at every political rally.

Oh please. GMAFB. Stop using the semantics game as your smoking gun. Everyone heard his speech. Weakness / strength, "march to the Capitol". Play your f**king games all you want. The rest of the world knows exactly what he was saying, why he was saying it, and who he was saying it to. He KNEW that the white supremacists were there in force. He KNEW they were primed. The reports coming in of their social media presence is alarming.

He said he would be at the Capitol with them, so "just like the Pied Piper who led rats through the streets" his motorcade led them there, then his motorcade did a 180 and he went back to the White House where aides said he was very excited about what he was seeing on the TV.

tRUMPf is a piece of shit who incited and instigated an insurrection. There is NOTHING anyone can ever say to change that fact. So stop trying to use language trickery to justify his actions. You are lucky we live in a country where it is not illegal to take sides with a traitor.

Your hatred of Trump has blinded you to truth and law. What "everybody knows" is not legal evidence. You might be able to prove that he was aware of the constituency of the crowd, but proving intent is notoriously difficult. I believed Blasey-Ford, but I also recognize that they didn't prove her story. Assumptions are not evidence. It will be difficult to prove to anything other than a kangaroo court that Trump' s intent was to do anything other than encourage the crowd to protest outside the Capitol and create a spectacle (his concern for optics would actually support this). Unless there is more evidence than has been revealed, it will be almost impossible to prove that he intended for the crowd to break in the Capitol, or to do anything violent.

I'm no traitor. Hell, I didn't even vote for the SOB. He's over and done with, but the environment of politically-motivated attacks, blind ideology, and naked bias continues. That is a greater threat than anything Trump has ever done.

This was not an insurrection or a coup attempt. If it had been, there would be more dead and the whole would not have ended so well. This was an act of political impulsiveness, like a bunch of kids breaking into a shopping mall at night. They had no plan or any idea what to do when they got there. Malheur was more of an insurrection. Most coups invove military takeovers.

The media does give us facts but instead uses assumption and jumping to conclusions for the sake of sensationalism and ratings. And Americans are dumb enough to swallow it without question.

You know what you know because it was reported to you. I did not say the media reports were fake. They are filtered, biased and mischaracterized on both sides. How do you know that 60 courts rejected his cases? It was reported in the media. But did they give you any details? What did he assert, and how was it refuted? As the crimes you suggest that he is guilty of are not strict liability laws, the concept of mens rea will likely apply, though there will also likely be dispute as to its relevance in federal law.

It has nothing to do with proving intent. Simply the fact that not being able to "prove intent" being the only thing that prevents this piece of garbage from going to jail is pretty sad. Its about exposing him for what he is and sending the right message to him and his crooked family and cult-like followers. I fully support the impeachment of tRUMPf. Even if it happens on his last day in office.

And this "media" that you talk about is not as you characterize it. If something happens, it gets reported. That is not fake. Some do sensationalize like CNN and Fox/NYPost, but this "sensationalizing" you are referring to happens only in the minds of those who are making the accusations.

So if you never view any media of any type, then how do you know what is going on? Or is it the case that we should only view the media that YOU want us to? tRUMPf said what he said and did what he did. I did not need the media to "sensationalize" tRUMPf's failures when 60 courts rejected his cases due to no evidence. I could see that for myself. My own mind was able to arrive at the conclusion that he was the perpetrator of the greatest hoax in human history.

Don jr. can say whatever he wants. (heck, it is called free speech after all... am I right?)

Bottom line is that nothing Trump said makes him responsible for this mess toenail, in spite of what your media overlords have brainwashed you to think.

Below is what seems to be a fairly objective take on the matter. Granted, I just did a quick first read. I'll re-read it when I have some time. Of course any website that doesn't frothingly hate Trump is probably considered unreliable by you and your media overlords...

"Can President Trump be Impeached and Removed on the Grounds of Incitement?"

https://reason.com/volokh/2021/01/08/can-president-trump-be-impeached-and-removed-on-the-grounds-of-incitement/

Yes it would fall under free speech. Doesn't mean he is a loyal American.

And stop using phrases like "Bottom line." You make it sound definitive and its not. EVERYTHING he said made him responsible for "this mess." Everything he said and everything he did. Also all the things said by those he orchestrated.

reason.com???? That's your go-to?

Let me tell you something...FAR more important than an impeachment is that he or his spawn will NEVER hold office again and that his name will live in infamy. His fate is sealed. As is the fate of anyone who was stupid enough to tag along for the ride.

Oh...and he absolutely can be impeached.