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They really ought to change their name to the Authoritarian Party. | SO REPUBLICANS ALLEGE REPEATEDLY, WITHOUT EVIDENCE, THAT VOTER FRAUD OCCURED, TRY TO DELAY CERTIFICATION, THEN TRY TO MANIPULATE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES; AND THEY'VE GOT THE AUDACITY TO SAY DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES THAT CAN'T BE TRUSTED? | image tagged in memes,third world skeptical kid | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-election-fraud-expert-russ-ramsland-files-affidavit-showing-physical-impossibility-election-results-michigan/

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/federal-election-commission-chairman-trump-campaign-bringing-legitimate
0 ups, 4y,
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Russ Ramsland's affidavit is full of errors:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/11/21/fact-check-rudy-giuliani-affidavit-errors/6366011002/

The data cited in the mathematician's affidavit cited in that link came from an unreliable source:
https://www.berkshireeagle.com/news/local/williams-prof-disavows-own-finding-of-mishandled-gop-ballots/article_9cfd4228-2e03-11eb-b2ac-bb9c8b2bfa7f.html

So what else ya got?
0 ups, 4y,
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The error was from someone sending over the wrong data set but still lists impossible results from another state. It need to be corrected but in no way shows it is wrong.

And the claim of an unreliable source is not backed up the the criticism.
https://williamsrecord.com/2020/11/a-rebuttal-to-steven-millers-report-on-pa-gop-mail-in-ballot-requests/
Rather the complaint is that the data wasn't personally vetted and that is all and boils down to an "I believe" statement on accuracy and from your own source, "He stopped short of directly critiquing the data that Braynard collected. "
0 ups, 4y,
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"It needs to be corrected but in no way shows it is wrong"?! If something needs to be corrected, obviously it is wrong. And by the way, those impossible results from Minnesota are also wrong, because they don't match up with the results from Minnesota's own election department.

The link you posted is even more critical of Braynard's data, describing it as biased and unverified.

I really think you're just grasping at straws here.
0 ups, 4y,
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You conflating two subjects. The data being from the wrong state doesn't show that data wrong. It means you need to go get the right states data and correct it in a different way than you suggest.

And the whole criticism boils down to an "I feel" statement, so it doesn't matter what he feels if there is no evidence to back it up. The only valid claim is he didn't verify the data personally, but that allows the data to still be right and verified. No actual rebuttal of the data has been done.
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That doesn't alter the fact that the data in the affidavit regarding Minnesota's turnout is wrong.

You're just repeating what you've already said about Braynard's data. But it also allows the data to be wrong, and if the data is biased and unverified and comes from an unreliable source, the impetus should be on proving the data is right.

Still grasping at straws.
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Wrong and irrelevant are to separate words for a reason.

But you're right until I prove you wrong? That's a nice double standard. What would be needed is to go over the data and verify it, and that was done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH9ihoLi1NA
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Says the guy who takes everything supporting Trump's voter fraud farce at face value, but questions the validity of every county's election department's data if it favors Biden.
0 ups, 4y,
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Well I've bothered to point out how several of those are wrong, so you're lying about me. But then again you have said anything goes so basing your argument on lies and rejecting reason is OK in your book.
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I never said anything like that. And you were incorrect in your claims, as I have proven. Now you're just going off on weird tangents imagining things that never happened.
0 ups, 4y
Sorry, got you mixed up with another poster, but you're still managing to lie about me.
0 ups, 4y,
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Am I? Then answer me this: if the results had come out with Trump as the winner of the election and Biden had alleged voter fraud, would you be as willing to doubt the validity of the outcome?
0 ups, 4y,
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Hypothesis contrary to fact huh? I'd of course say I'd give him a chance to prove it and ask the broken ass system to be fixed no matter what, making even asking meaningless.
0 ups, 4y,
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And Trump hasn't proven it. Neither has Giuliani or Powell.
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Failing to look at the evidence is not the same as it not being proved. The voting system itself is riddled it problem from top to bottom that's causes range from from laziness, lack of chain of custody, checks being actively subverted or just not being used, last minute changes without preparation, unconstitutional law changes, illegal rule changes, and even actual proved fraud.

Each of these things should really be addressed before the next election.
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The so-called "evidence" has either been thoroughly debunked, proven to be an irregularity that was taken into account, or simply never existed. And any instances of individual fraud, if any, are still extremely rare.

And if any of the courts have so far failed to look at any of this so-called "evidence", it's because it was never presented in court by the plaintiffs.

Trump is chasing windmills trying to find something, anything, that will let him stay president another four years.
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Actually, no it was not, you refusing to look at the problems then dismissing them as debunked without even bothering to check the basic facts, like say most of these not being offered in court to be reviewed yet. You are fake news.
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"You are fake news." Spoken like a true Trumptard.

Unfortunately, reality doesn't alter no matter how much you try to disavow it.
0 ups, 4y,
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You mean like the court orders that where handed out to require poll watchers to be allowed access after being barred that you deny exist because you never bothered to go look for the fact? You a fake news low information propagandist.
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They were allowed access, and this has been admitted in court. You're a tedious fact-denying filibuster.
0 ups, 4y
LOL, you conflating the one case where they where kept back far enough nor to see that ended with a ruling that they are they are do not have to be allowed to check anything and only need to be in the same room with the other cases where poll watchers where barred from the building. As I said, you're low information because you never bothered to look up the facts.
1 up, 4y
We've provided plenty of evidence. Apparently, it just hasn't been shoved up your ass yet so you can see it.
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https://lawandcrime.com/supreme-court/supreme-court-reveals-new-circuit-assignments-for-justices/
GAME OVER leftists!
0 ups, 4y
Pennsylvania and Nevada just certified their votes. There is no legal path forward for Trump that doesn't involve faithless electors. GAME OVER Trumpists!
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SO REPUBLICANS ALLEGE REPEATEDLY, WITHOUT EVIDENCE, THAT VOTER FRAUD OCCURED, TRY TO DELAY CERTIFICATION, THEN TRY TO MANIPULATE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES; AND THEY'VE GOT THE AUDACITY TO SAY DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES THAT CAN'T BE TRUSTED?