Science & Morals

Bruh, that's not a meme, it's just a glob of letters...

that's how the "memes" are in the politics stream, they either say something stupid or something smart and you either agree or get in a huge arguement

r/whoooooosh

I was referring to calling an unborn a glob of cells

Amen!

Works for reptiles... maybe they are not only gender confused but species confused!

the irony is that banning abortion causes more abortions.

anyway, where was this argument when trump and obama were doing this shit?

that comment makes less sense than Billie Elish lyrics

and you can't debate for a dime, especially since you don't explain how, and just refuse to in order to shield yourself from criticism

you didn't explain how banning something makes people do it more

that has a natural tendency. banning drugs doesn't prevent drug abuse. banning firearms doesn't prevent shootings. ergo, banning abortions doesn't prevent abortions, and more people do it secretly, for cheaper the price than a subsidized abortion clinic

last time i checked an abortion required a hospital room, several docters, lab equipment, and medications. not exactly things you can get at a Home Depot.

they are very likely to happen at one's house. no one does an abortion at home depot

using what? kitchen shears?

the infamous coat hanger was used before roe v. wade

also

HOME DEPOT DOESN'T DO ABORTIONS?! WHOOOOOOA!!! I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AT AAAAALL!!!

i never said they did, nor implied they didn't. i said no one does an abortion in secret at home depot

so did i

You better stop swatting bugs, running over animals, hunting animals, stop eating meat... Those are all living things.

are they human?

Meme didn't say human. It said "living thing" stop moving goal posts.

isn't it a given that babies are human? do i really need to make a meme about something you already know?

You did not say human in the meme. You said "living thing." Your meme invites the viewer to dispute the claim in which you attempt to cleverly draw the reader in and move the goal post of the definition vis-a-vis semantics of your own argument. You said "living thing." Not "Human."

that's because i didn't know people were stupid enough to think a baby inside a human could be a dog or spider or some other non-human creature. do i also need to prove that 'the' is spelled T-H-E while i'm at it?

You can defend it however you want. Your meme intentionally moves goal posts.

So with that said, since you want to invoke science as an appeal to logic, a living being is not considered human until it has developed its spinal cord.

So there's that.

Not my fault your meme sucks. It should be titled "How to move goal posts." Seriously.

If you're going to make a statement, you have to be clear and concise in what you're saying. Otherwise no one can or will take you seriously.

Like I said, your meme invites the reader to follow the logic of what you wrote, then when they counter you, you simply use that opening that you created for yourself to argue semantics.

"You can defend it however you want. Your meme intentionally moves goal posts."

no it doesn't.

"a living being is not considered human until it has developed its spinal cord."

says who?

Your query for credibility is transparent.
Washington State University - GenEd 110 World Civilizations I
The defining characteristics of a human are:

-Brain size
-Erect posture and bipedalism
-The human skin as a heat diffusion device
-The hand with its uniquely opposable thumb
-The face and eyes
-Jaw and teeth
-The throat and the position of the larynx
-The subtle forms of sexual differences or dimorphism
-Neoteny
-The retardation of maturation in human offspring

A human fetus in early development has none of these traits.
An encyclopedia in New Zealand states that the defining characteristic of a human:

-Kingdom: Animalia
Multicellular organisms; cells with a nucleus, with cell membranes but lacking cell walls

-Phylum: Chordata
Animals with a spinal cord

-Class: Mammalia
Warm-blooded chordates that bear live young; females have mammary glands that secrete milk to nourish young

-Order: Primates
Mammals with collar bone; eyes face forward; grasping hands with fingers; two types of teeth (incisors and molars)

-Family: Hominidae
Primates with upright posture, large brain, stereoscopic vision, flat face, different use of hands and feet

-Genus: Homo
Hominids with S-curved spine, recognisable as human

-Species: Homo sapiens
Humans with high forehead, well-developed chin, thin skull bones.

These are all from the scientific community. A human embryo or fetus does not carry these traits. They may be made of human DNA and material, but they are not human.

Christians call homosexuals Abominations, but they're human.

So, your meme doesn't intentionally move goal posts? So you were ignorant of what you were doing?

"Is a seed a tree?"

is a seed a different species than a tree? no. therefore, it is a tree. a dead object cannot transform into a living thing. abiogenesis was proved wrong before the lightbulb was invented.

"Your meme is invalid"

invalid? you need to learn what that word means. i made a claim and backed it up with evidence. that's what valid means. just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's invalid.

"I've shot each argument you've brought to the table down with science as that was your appeal."

no you haven't. you've only mentioned another source ONCE, to which i replied.

genetically, fetus in fact has ALL of these traits. these requirements are for what its genes code for. excluding a fetus would mean calling it a different species.

living + human = living human

also, this list would exculde people born without eyes, hands, etc. are they not human?

"genetically, fetus in fact has ALL of these traits. these requirements are for what its genes code for. excluding a fetus would mean calling it a different species."
>> Is a seed a tree? Is a sapling a tree? No. They aren't.

People born without eyes or hands are labeled to have something called "birth defects."
A birth defects is a physical or biochemical abnormality that is present at birth and that may be inherited or the result of environmental influence. Your argument is wholly invalid.

Your meme is invalid. I've shot each argument you've brought to the table down with science as that was your appeal. If you're trying to make an appeal to science, it simply won't work. You're better off sticking to "faith" arguments.