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6 trillion in more debt.

Mostly because of Covid. Obama doubled it to 20 million, but no one wants to say that. Earlier this year, it was at 21 million, meaning at that rate (COVID not included) his national debt increase would’ve been 1/5 of Obama’s.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-03/joe-biden-envisions-trillions-of-dollars-in-u-s-spending

Envisions? Is this hypothetical?

It's Biden's proposed spending.

His proposed spending for Trump or himself?

For Biden's administration.

O.

Explain how anything I said wasn’t true. I just happened to be in a finance class last year and so I’ve been checking the national debt ever since. And I know it was 10M when Obama started and 20M when Trump started.

You might want to read the details of his plan. Everyone's taxes go up.

i did. it won't

https://joebiden.com/two-tax-policies/

That's not his plan that's his rhetoric. The actual plan taxes everyone through the insurance companies and through big businesses worth more than $400k. You think the insurance companies and businesses will pay the taxes? No, the price of goods will go up to match the tax increases.

Like tariffs? At least we get healthcare.

We always had healthcare. Its illegal for hospitals to turn people away regardless of ability to pay in the US. We won't get healthcare. We'll get massive lines and huge waits, and no more innovation because there is no incentive to innovate.

ER is not "healthcare" that is emergency care.

Every other civilized western country has it. Many with better health outcomes (life expectancy, infant mortality, illness rates, etc) so .... we can do better.

Not just ER, you can go into any hospital and they have to serve you regardless.

In emergency capacity. Not as a normal routine healthcare capacity with a doctor/patient relationship. It's ok. The country will move forward without you. Then you will accept the better ways and claim to have always supported them. It'll be hard at first, but through it all you will be better off for it. It's the un-brainwashing that hurts the most.

No, I won't. I will fight them until I die along with the other 73 million Americans that voted Trump.

"weird. The vast majority of Americans, 70 percent, now support Medicare-for-all, otherwise known as single-payer health care, according to a new Reuters survey. That includes 85 percent of Democrats and 52 percent of Republicans. Only 20 percent of Americans say they outright oppose the idea."

lol Reuters. So you go to a fake news survey? How about you check the fine print and find out they only surveyed by land line and they only caught the elderly?

"So you are in the minority. Even among your own voting bloc." No, my voting block does not include the elderly and those with landlines.

"https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/most-americans-now-support-medicare-for-all-and-free-college-tuition.html"

weird. The vast majority of Americans, 70 percent, now support Medicare-for-all, otherwise known as single-payer health care, according to a new Reuters survey. That includes 85 percent of Democrats and 52 percent of Republicans. Only 20 percent of Americans say they outright oppose the idea.

So you are in the minority. Even among your own voting bloc.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/most-americans-now-support-medicare-for-all-and-free-college-tuition.html

The details of the tax plan are irrelevant to the point of this meme. If businesses are closed, they don't make income to tax. It doesn't matter if it's 10% or 70%. 70% of nothing is still nothing. We need to open shit back up.

There’s plenty of f**king tax money when you know where to look for it.

yay...TIME FOR ANOTHER GREAT DEPRESSION! (ya hear that democrats that voted for biden, its your favorite president's fault)

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And if he gets in, I'm raising my federal tax claims to match his tax increase so he still gets the same from my income.

instead of more

THANK YOU

You talking opposite? Because if you are this is trump without raising the benefits

what about income tax and the thousands of other taxes everyone pays or indirectly pays all the time

You pay so much money in day to day life. That money goes to companies which goes to employees. What happens to the money when it goes to employees? it gets taxed. Your logic does not work

joe biden has repeated this multiple times, taxes only go up for the rich, if you make $400k a year or more. he is going to build on obamacare to make healthcare closer to affordable.

Even "the rich" don't make money when everything is closed. You can't earn money or make profits if your business is closed.

The stock market would say otherwise.

Yes. The harder you work, the more you get punished. That’s one of my problems with the left.

The point of the meme seems painfully lost on everyone. You can't compensate for a loss of economic activity through taxes, because there is no economic activity to tax.

Oh, in some colleges people are afraid to admit they’re conservatives because they’re worried they’ll get failed for it. Teachers are definitely a part of the problem sometimes.

Except by many accounts the “economy” is doing great. Trump said it’s the greatest economy of all time. The Dow jones is his economic barometer. Job growth is doing well too. It was doing great in 2016. You don’t cut taxes in a great economy.

The economy was the best it’s been in a long time in 2019 and the beginning of 2020. Covid messed it up, and I’m confused as to how Democrats want to blame the downfall of it on Trump when he was the one fighting against lockdown and they pushed it.
The media hates Trump more than they like you.

The economy (outside of the market which is doing great) will bounce back.

Start taxing like it.

It’s going to bounce back because Biden will start raising taxes.

Why are the rich getting richer?

TAX THEM.

I am rich. Tax me and my ilk more. The country needs the money.

And no I won’t pay more out of the goodness of my heart. Tax me and my rich friends more. Please. Do it. Now.

So you want the government to completely run finances?

Tax more. Look at historic tax rates and levels of prosperity. Apparently it is not impossible

i do not hate success, we hate greed, college loan debt, and poverty

why do you hate the poor?

Republicans don’t hate the poor. That’s a leftist lie. I am poor (for now) and am not looking for handouts, because handouts don’t make poor people successful. Don’t believe me? Look at the Native Americans.
And it’s not greedy to let rich people give to poor people of their own accord. It’s greedy for the government to do it for them. It’s greedy for the government to have financial control.
If you hate poverty, poor people become rich by hard work and innovation, not financial assistance. I have never heard a successful person that used to be poor say, “The reason I’m so successful now is because the government gave me all kinds of money.” I have heard people talk about their hard work leading to success though.
When you increase minimum wages (like the Democrat-pushed amendment in Florida did), or taxes, business owners will hire less people, the prices of EVERYTHING will go up so the business people don’t lose money. This double-jacks the middle-class (neither poor or rich). Now they have to pay higher taxes AND everything is more expensive. So this whole “Democrats care for the poor” song and dance is a total whopper. Their system makes life harder for the middle-class and poor, not easier.
Make America Rich Again

What? They live off of what the government gives them. And ain’t none of them successful. They have no drive in life, so why would they work toward anything?

They work harder and smarter than the people who sink themselves into crushing college debt and then don't actually work enough to do anything but live off welfare.

The problem is, if you tax them more than anyone else they'll just leave.

Yeah. If I were rich and hard-working and got taxed into middle-class life, I’d just leave for an actually capitalist country.

Try it. They need to make their money HERE.

If by 'they' you mean rich people, then I'm afraid they can leave the country and move their business HQ's to a nation with more benevolent tax laws. We can't tax what is then foreign revenue except through trade legalities.

No they won’t leave.
Look at history for reference. Like 1950s.
Also not talking about corporate tax necessarily.

Take literally 5 minutes to hear a billionaire explain why you are wrong. He might have a better insight to this than you do:
https://youtu.be/CKCvf8E7V1g

They just move business and assets out of the country and pay lower taxes elsewhere.

Hahahaha....that’s what they want you to believe

Tell that to the folks who lose their jobs to China Biden

That’s the free market. Trumps great economy did the same thing.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/its-official-manufacturing-is-getting-crushed.html

That’s 1 year ago. Before Covid.

Sure. That's why. Nothing to do with corporate greed.

Someone failed economics.

No actually I passed with flying colors.

Clearly, you didn't learn anything.

Yeah. That’s it.

Obviously