Human Evolution

Yes

lol

Yeah I believe in science

Science is not something to believe in. It's a method of observation and testing.

I do. I don't believe in being created by some sort of higher being.

yeah, same

but i also agree with Spooky (bottom comment)

The short answer? There is evidence for evolution all around us. Some organisms even evolve so quickly that you can watch it happen.

Not macro evolution.

Where?

Nope!

Yes. I believe it because it just seems more believable than some magic holy being saying "poof" and creating the first humans.

There is no such thing as "believe" for a proven theory. "Do you acknowledge evolution?" would be a more accurate question. The term "evolution" means nothing more but "slow event", and the opposite is "revolution" which means "fast event". A lot of people think it means civil war due to the French revolution, but the French revolution merely got its name due to the speed in which everything happened, and how many things happened in a short time.

Basically COVID-17 is formed out of evolution. It's nothing more than a newer version of the corona virus (to which MERS, SARS and Influenza belong to), which was adapted to resist the medication and stuff we already know, and that is why this has become a bit of a problem. Because viruses are smaller being these things can happen a bit faster. Humans, as larger beings take a lot more time, but the traces of evolution are still within us, in both our behavior as in our bodies.

The appendix in our digestive system is a leftover of evolution. Back when we were cavemen it had an important function. Since our diet was raw meat, which is hard to digest the appendix had to do a lot of extra work. Now that we always cook our food, and meat is almost never eaten raw anymore, the appendix is no longer needed and it's getting smaller and smaller, and it's said that somewhere in the future people won't have it anymore.

The changes of evolution happen gradually and take many generations, and that is what makes it so hard for mortal to grasp.

Now since the evolution theory appears to contradict the first chapters and verses of Genesis, loads of people try to discredit it, but unfortunately the facts are the way they are. You can either accept it or not. Of course, I have spoken to religious people who do acknowledge the fact, but do also state that God made it happen that way.... I can't debunk that one.... Nor can I prove it, so I'll be neutral on that...

Being adept to their surroundings. Some people who are underwater loads of times have been proven to have bigger lungs so they can hold their breath longer. It took them generations to get to that point. One can say evolution adapted them to their lifestyles. And so the list of examples is endless on both humans as other species, and the same goes for plants. Carnivorous plants eat living insects because the ground provides too little nutrients. Once again an adaption, that took loads of time.

Humans having grown out of monkeys is not what evolution describes. ->

No the evolution theory is proven. Science does deal in absolute proof. Not only in mathematics. In Physics too. And yes even in biology where most of the laws are not written in stone like in mathematics, physics and chemistry, the essence of evolution has been proven, but loads of people are still too desperate to see it debunked due to its controversy in religion because it defies the the story of creation that this is always brought up. The big bang theory, another theory that people put into doubt out of religious reasons, is still open for revision, since a lot here is not yet proven (although a lot of other things are), and maybe even parts of the evolution theory, but that is rather like spellchecking a book than really changing its content. By the way "science doesn't deal in absolute proof like mathematics does" doesn't make sense, as mathematics is also science. Just saying.

Just because evolution is hard to grasp doesn't mean it can't be proven. Science does deal in absolute proof.... Evolution is actually still unjustly caused a theory. And of course, the exact flow of evolution is still part of debate, the phenomenon itself is not.

"phenomenon and the theory" unfortunately, the meme is about "do you believe in evolution", so that already states my original statement... The "theory" is still called theory, but it has gone beyond that...

"Mathematics is the only field of study where something can be absolutely proven"
Wrong, on many accounts. That defies the very essence of many things being proven in the field of physics, were many things have already been absolutely proven without any possible way to debunk them. Physical laws are deemed absolute.... Like "energy cannot be created nor can it be destroyed", that is an absolute law, and it's not mathematics, so that debunks your very sentence, since what I just stated about energy is proven. Also even in mathemetics there are still a lot of unproven theories. Goldbach's theory for example is still unproven (He stated that every even number greater than 2 is the sum of two prime numbers). Of course the pythagorean theorism was proven by Pythagoras, although the formula itself predates Pythagoras by centuries, possibly even millennia. This shows that even in mathematics there are many things uncertain... And don't debate with me on that one... I am a coder, so I work with mathematics day in and day out.

And just like there are in mathematics still a lot of uncertainties, and loads of things are even subject of debate among experts in that field, so there are even in biology, in which most of its laws are not written in stone, like in physics, mathematics and chemistry, there are some things that are irrefutable. Yes, they make the minority, but still they are there. Evolution is one of those things, along with the rule of nature always trying to allow the fittest to survive (which is by the way also discovered by Darwin).

Mathematics is NOT the only field of study in which things can be proven irrefutably. And that is also a proven fact. And I can even give you a true fact by saying 1 + 1 = 10 ... The question is only how I made this to be true... People who are coders, like me, will see the trick I used. (I used binary, and that's how my formula became true). 1+1=2 is the simple math, but math has problems that even I who use mathematics every day cannot even begin to understand, since even the experts are in disagreement. And so biology also has its simple things. If somebody removes your eyes you cannot see... No way to debunk that one. If you lose your head, you'll die... Try to debunk that one... So yes, even biology has facts.

Some things in mathematics still being uncertain doesn't mean there are no things that can be proven beyond doubt. And mathematics just doesn't work like any natural science. In mathematics you make a certain set of assumptions (axioms) and everything that follows from these axioms is proven beyond doubt. This absolute truth simply doesn't exist in natural sciences because we don't know what "axioms" nature is based on. Natural sciences are trying to find those bases but you can never be certain. What you can do and what scientists do on a daily bases is make an educated guess about these base rules. Everything that follows from your basic rules are your scientific theories that you're trying to find evidence for. If you find a phenomenon in nature that can't be explained by your base assumptions and its following theories something about your model must be wrong. If what you find supports your idea there's a good chance you're right. But just because your theory explains everything exactly as it is doesn't mean that no different set of rules also does. That's why there are quite a few competing theories in physics, for example, like loop quantum gravity and string theory as both models explain all the things we know of in the universe. Both theories fulfill the necessary criteria for being true but neither can ever be proven. Mathematics is not trying to be anything in reality. That's the reason we can define the rules and that is the only reson we can prove anything at all.

-> It was merely a possibility considered based on the evolution theory. Now that possibility has been debunked, but the theory itself has been proven.

Yes, while they are right. There is only some forms of evolution. While its a theory most people accept. Germs, certain parts of the body, viruses all seem to evolve.

However Evolution within people, I dont accept/believe it. I dont accept the Big Bang Theory

No. I mean differently

The Big Bang theory and the Evolution theory are two different theories, both are controversial as they have in common they defy the story of creation. About the Big Bang theory we can still speculate a lot, as a lot is unclear here, and also not proven. The parts about that theory that have been proven as facts do point in the direction of the Big Bang though, but here is still opening for alternate facts (which is contrary to what some people want you to believe still a fact, and not a lie) that can shine a different light on matters.

When it comes to evolution, people still try to deem it unproven, but the point is, the phenomenon itself is proven. The essence of Darwin's theory is that all life adapts itself slowly over many generations to the situation the life is in. And that is already proven as a fact. The question however is how exactly did evolution flow... Because there are still unclarities on that part, people who still desperately try to debunk evolution itself try to deem the evolution itself as an unproven theory or even a fabrication. All of these people have in common though that they pull evolution out of its context.

Evolution itself is real... That is a proven fact. This fact is now used to find out how things really went. And that is were things can still be debunked... I guess this is also where things become complicated to explain and understand. People being formed out of monkeys is not the essence of evolution.... It was evolution that made that theory possible, but didn't prove it... And that is the mistake made in most of the evolution discussions... A mistake I very often see when people desperate to debunk it mimic monkeys in order to mock the phenomenon...

Oh well...

yes because humans can't have just appeared on earth right

of course it's real. i'm christian, but adam and eve was so obviously a metaphor.

Yes, of course, but only because it is well-established fact.

Evolution is not a fact. It's just a well accepted theory.

No, you can't take something that no one saw, that happened "millions of years" ago, and call it a fact. You just admitted that when you called it "the THEORY of evolution. Yes, micro evolution, which we can observe, is. You can't say one proves for a fact the other.

Ok, what new species have scientists observed? And don't say bacteria. And no, something cannot be a fact and a theory at the same time. A theory is a guess, not an answer.

Unless those insects evolve into something other than another insect, or the bacteria evolves into something other than more bacteria, im probably not going to read another long link that produces the same result. That only proves micro evolution. Without the magical millions of years, that's all you've got. Although I'm one to talk about believing in magical things, huh? 😉

You say, "Evolution doesn't cause a fish to give birth to a squirrel or something crazy like that." Yet evolution says that man eventually evolved from fish. How is that not equally as crazy? I give up. You win this one, brother.

What new species has emerged from another? Can you name one?

"Dolphins and whales evolved from land mammals". Isn't that going backwards? I thought we evolved from the sea? A famous evolutionist once said "we are all basically fish"...

But if mutations keep the animals from reproducing with another species, how do they evolve into new ones?

"Ring species" are solid evidence. Species A can reproduce with species B. B can reproduce with A and species C. C can reproduce with B and species D. But species A and species D cannot reproduce.

So the squirrel evolves into...a lemur?

So a squirrel evolves into another squirrel. Same species. Or should I say kind? For kinds must evolve into other kinds for molecules-to-man evolution to be true.

Look, whatever you guys call it, familia, maybe? But fish are still fish. Reptes are still reptiles. Mammals are still mammals. For macro evolution to happen, fish had to evolve into reptiles, or at least mammals to come from the ocean and walk on earth. Or as you have said, back into fish from mammals. But this is not what we observe. We observe animals adapting, usually because of their environments, into a different form of the same animal. Like big cats developed into domesticated house cats. Or wolves to dogs. But there is no observable jump from fish to mammal, or even an ape to a man. The different familia, or whatever yo want to call it, couldn't have appeared all together, all at once, or that would point to creation. So obviously there are some huge missing gaps between them that only adding "millions of years," and "those fossils and skeletons have all been lost or destroyed except for a very few" can fix.

Microevolution is a theory. Macroevolution is a hypothesis treated like a scientific law.

I posted some stuff in here about macroevolution's holes btw.

Exactly

so we're supposed to trust a book more?

No, trust the Author of the book.😉

Humans writing through the inspiration of God. When you write something down, is it you that's writing, or is it the pen? God used humans as his pens to write his word.

I could give you many examples to show that the Bible is divinely authored, but don't have the time now. But considering 40 different people, who lived in different times over a span of thousands of years, conspired to write a book that has the same teachings and messages intact, and all harmonize together, defies outstanding odds. People today can't even get the same sentence right around a room of people that know each other...

The Bible does have the same teachings and message. The New Testament is in the Old Testament concealed, and the Old Testament is in the New Testament revealed. The message that runs through the whole Bible from beginning to end is God's message of salvation and redemption through Jesus Christ. The OT tells of the coming redemption, the NT tells how he did it. Have you ever read or studied the Bible?

Yes, humans make mistakes, and disagree on many things.
Many examples of this are in the Bible itself, for its also a history book that doesn't sugarcoat things. But the writers, human as they were, went to painstaking lengths to make sure every "jot and tottle" was correct. The true author, however, does not make mistakes. There are more copies and translations of the Bible than any other book in the world.

I've studied it; I was a Christian for 30 years. Reading about the Bible's contradictions and the often ridiculous "explanations" convinced me it is definitely not the inerrant word of god.

Did someone say the bible gives good advice for a moral and upstanding life? I wonder if there are any examples of that...

I'm just gonna leave this here:

Numbers 5:11-31

The Test for the wife of a jealous husband
This is "The test of jealosy"
Hint hint, we endanger the woman's life

Leviticus 19:20

Proper way to rape a slave

Deuteronomy 21:11

Prisoners of war can be slave brides, but after you rape them ("dishonored") you can't sell them as slaves.

Deuteronomy 22:23-25

Raping city women and country women means different people have to die. Just a normal death double standard

If you keep going through 28, you can learn about raping your way into marriage. Great for incels

Deuteronomy 25:5

Have sex with your brother in law for babies

Genesis 38

Dress as a prostitute and sleep with your father in law to make babies!

Judges 11:32-40

Murder your daughter for victory in battle

Such great examples... (end sarcasm)

I don't think they harmonize. If they did there wouldn't be so many different sects that some even go to war with each other.

Lol yeah

Then I would argue that fact does not exist. Evolution theory is one of the most settled theories in the scientific realm.

I thought science was never settled.

And still one of the most debated, I would add.

PS - I don't think you are necessarily insane if you don't think evolution is taking take, and has taken place since the beginning of time...I just think you're arguing something that is not a necessary condition for Christianity to be what you believe it is.

I don't think that's true. Some science is settled. A water molecule is comprised of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. This has been settled and there is literally no dissent. There are countless other examples right along the same lines. More abstract "science" is less often settled. Whether or not creatures evolve is settled. There is all sorts of irrefutable examples of evolution taking place as we speak/type. For example, vestigial structures...take wisdom teeth, for example. They are slowly-but-surely being eliminated in human beings. The rate at which people are born with wisdom teeth is measurably declining. That is evolution, and to my knowledge, no one is dissenting there.

Anything can be debated. Whether or not the debate has merit is another question. Claiming that evolution does not exist is insane.

Ok, thats true. But why do you think evolution is only continuing within species? For macro evolution to be true, there would have had to been a transition between them at some point in time. (Though the transitional fossils of such seem to be far too fewer than they should be.) Why would it stop and only continue within each species?

Because only certain species are compelled to evolve. The compelling forces are myriad. Examples would be, increasing or decreasing salinity of the oceans, increasing or decreasing amount of land mass on Earth, increasing or decreasing CO2 levels, increasing or decreasing amounts of UV light exposure. I think some mighty power created everything, but I'm very perplexed how something could be created from nothing. To my mind, it seems necessary that everything started at some point - the sentiment is that things did not always exist - how could things have always existed? So, I believe in a higher power, but I don't know for certain how it all works. I hope I gain that understanding at time of death, if not sooner.

I just don't understand how we haven't seen any concrete verifiable transitional forms of one species changing into another. If there was millions of years of this happening, there should be fossils of them everywhere.

I believe in the God of the Bible, and that He is the eternal creator. I didnt always believe this. It wasn't until I asked Jesus Christ into my life and became born again when I was 29 that I began to read the Bible and understand it. I have learned alot since then. I hope that you find Him like I did. When we take the jump into eternity, I believe that's all that will matter.

I'll agree to a degree on one point. Darwinism as it currently stands tends to focus too much on competition and too little on cooperation. After all, multi-celled organisms evolved from the cooperation of single-celled organisms.

😜

xD

*unlike manmade climate change! To believe that humans are responsible for changing the planet's climate is so beyond arrogant that it is comical. If humans are responsible for any effect on climate change, it is minimal to the point of being negligible.

I don't think it's arrogant at all. Animala have bern shaping the environment for millions of years. Then we come by and cut down 75% of all the forests and jungles in 150 years.

Hey wassup, just making sure.
Have you talked shit behind my back?

WHAT? Your comment makes no sense. "Just making sure"? Of what?!?!?! "Talked shit behind (your) back?" WTF are you talking about? I see you consider yourself an anti-bullying warrior. What you just did right here was harass me for no good reason. I should be the one telling you not to bully people. Leave me the f**k alone!

Actually, f**k it...I'll just block you.

Whos bothering you

Well, this PlasmaMistExorcistKABOOM-Meme person just contacted me to ask me if I have talked shit behind his/her back. I don't think they ought to be approaching people like that. It is passive aggressive behavior and it's obvious they are looking to cause trouble. I blocked them because I'm better off never seeing their content. It appears their account is full of nothing but garbage anyway.

Cheers!

Chill broooooo i havent done anything wrong... just asking to see if you said anything dumb behind my back thats all :/ and its not anything bad u take everything seriously. Sure block me. And yes i just havent been posting memes in a while, im into another website now. dont need your negativity. Im better in another website anyways. ive quitted imgflip so yeah.

Adios, "Friend"

You are literally the dumbest person I have ever encountered. But have a good day. I am sorry you are so ugly/retarded.

and you are the most toxic person i have ever seen. But have a good day. I am sorry you have mental problems.

Im Sorry but I have said nothing offensive. What you have said is clearly problematic, and dumb. Go microwave your heart as cold as ice.

Okay. Well if you need help I can help you.
Cheers!

Woah Woah Woahhhhhhh Im not doing anything bad bro? U just said to truce, and im just making sure not to break our truce, k?

It does to me. Um... aside from all the typos.