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Why are politicians ignoring climate change? | What do you think the main focus of current politicians should be? (Besides coronavirus) I think climate change | image tagged in memes,this is fine | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Case in point: High-rise building developers look at least 15 yrs out. If there was a chance that sea levels would rise and destroy their multi-million dollar investments, no one in their right mind would develop on beach front property. Yet they do. All over the world. Year after year. Either they are incredibly stupid, or global warming is a scam. Besides, the climate is always changing. Has been for thousands of years. What we should be concerned about is our pollution of the oceans, and deforestation of the rainforest.
6 ups, 4y,
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Imho deforestation is a bigger cause of climate change than carbon emissions. That said the mass extinction of species is the biggest environmental problem.
2 ups, 4y
I agree. We get alot of our medicines from the rainforest. I've heard it said the rainforest is like the lungs of the earth. And the beef industry wants to burn it down for cattle land. While our actual farms and farmers are going under. We are headed for mass food shortages in the future and the media won't talk about it.
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Buildings can withstand most hurricanes. If a threat was coming to render the whole area completely unlivable, nobody would invest there.
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2 ups, 4y
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2 ups, 4y,
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Yes, multi-million dollar investments on the sea are stupid, at this point, IMO. But people still love the ocean and flock to beachfront properties anyway, and are willing to pay a lot to do it, so these projects are still profitable at least in the short-term. But long-term? Doubt.

Funny you should bring up business planning, because modeling climate change and its effects are exactly what insurance companies are doing right now.

https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/pages/financial-services/articles/insurance-companies-climate-change-risk.html

Insurance companies that failed to predict the California wildfires for instance are losing their shirts. Insurers would like to get out of certain markets entirely. Many states are enacting “FAIR” (Fair Access to Insurance Requirements) laws that force insurers to provide coverage to properties that they otherwise wouldn’t.

https://www.thebalance.com/fair-plan-policies-2645392

Is this government commandeering private business and telling it what to do? Yeah, pretty much. But it’s politically popular and so it happens. One instance where an alternative free market solution to climate change — let the homeowners willing to take the risk of living in disaster-prone areas bear the risk, and don’t force companies and taxpayers to subsidize such development — actually exists.

So, indeed, “follow the money” — if you don’t trust politicians, scientists, or the government on climate change, look at what is taking place in the insurance industry.
1 up, 4y
Good point.
5 ups, 4y,
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Depends on your view of climate change. Personally I don’t think climate change is that big of an issue mainly because the people who say we need to save the planet are the ones who cause the most pollution. Like al gore
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4 ups, 4y
Its a huge issue for those of us who are familiar with the impacts and see the effects daily. Trouble is that lobby groups funded by oil and gas industries promote the status quo and pay off politicians to write laws that support their views, while folks most impacted are not organized and cannot impact policy due to not being funded. Then the wildlife that are disappearing obviously do not have a voice and any spokespersons again are poorly funded and don't even get an opportunity to speak to the politicians. Meanwhile idiots like trump are only focused on money and ignore the data.
2 ups, 4y,
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Maybe they've seen the USCRN (US Climate Reference Network) data, which shows no climate change in a decade of readings.

The USCRN was constructed by NOAA because inspection of volunteer weather stations revealed that many reported data unreliably, and others were installed in locations directly in violation of the requirements. Some were installed next to air conditioning heat exchangers, some were installed in the middle of asphalt parking lots, some were painted dark colors. Weather stations reporting unreliably had their data augmented by nearby weather stations (to fill in the data gaps), but the nearby weather stations (because of installation problems noted previously) are providing higher temperatures.

The USCRN was implemented and is maintained by NOAA, and shows no warming trend over more than 10 years of data.
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0 ups, 4y
Funny, all of the climate change fanatics quote NOAA all the time, they just pretend the USCRN data doesn't exist. Same organization, 2 datasets.
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3 ups, 4y,
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2,362 human lives lost daily. I think that's worth talking about but it isn't.
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3 ups, 4y,
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2 ups, 4y,
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It's none of your business? Because you're not a woman or they're not really humans?
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3 ups, 4y,
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K8. M
1 up, 4y,
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Ah, ok. But I know your stance so made me wonder.
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2 ups, 4y,
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1 up, 4y
Oh well that explains everything, wouldn't want it looking like spam on your recent comments ;)
0 ups, 4y,
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Agreed
And unfortunately that's just America, 125,000 a day worldwide
0 ups, 4y,
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Wow... Considering we have 5% of the world's population, that means the U.S. has a lower than average rate.
0 ups, 4y,
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And I'm at least a little grateful for that

what's your point?
1 up, 4y,
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I was merely making an observation. I'm not a fan of abortion.
0 ups, 4y,
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I suppose we can agree on that
2 ups, 4y,
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I believe the best ways to prevent abortions are sex education that includes both abstinence and contraception, proper preemptive medical care, stopping rape and incest, providing child care and other assistance for poor mothers, and therapy for children and teenagers (so they don't have sex to meet some psychological need and know when they're really ready for the responsibility).
2 ups, 4y,
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Agreed, I'm a big fan of pregnancy care centers like the one I have in my town. It shows people that they can get help without getting an abortion.
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1 up, 4y,
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Guess who runs those places? Not planned parenthood. I have yet to see a liberal run pregnancy center for women that actually want to keep their babies.
0 ups, 4y
Yep, and I've heard that planned parenthood kind of pressures them into getting an abortion too.
1 up, 4y
I don't think politicians should have just one singular focus. Single issue voters are idiots.
0 ups, 4y
um actually they are addressing climate change.
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1 up, 4y
This topic has been played out so much of flip, A tool to generate money
0 ups, 4y,
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Because money is falling from the mountains!
1 up, 4y
Money is manufactured.
0 ups, 4y
Interconnecting africa with the rest of the world
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0 ups, 4y
Definitely Climate change
2 ups, 4y,
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Climate change is a scam.
2 ups, 4y
2 ups, 4y,
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Look just bcs you're generation is responsible for it doesn't mean it's a scam, ok boomer?
2 ups, 4y
I'm 16 lol
2 ups, 4y,
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Definitely not a boomer
2 ups, 4y,
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Well then you're just an idiot and there's no excuse for it
1 up, 4y
Stop with the namecalling please...please follow stream rules and be respectful.
2 ups, 4y,
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Says the one that listens to politicians instead of actual scientists
3 ups, 4y,
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Politicians are the ones saying it's fake
2 ups, 4y,
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And the only people who preach "Global Warming will kill us all!" are politicians, too. The difference is, politicians saying it is fake have real scientists on their side
2 ups, 4y,
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Just do some research ok
1 up, 4y,
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I have. I have looked at both sides of it. I look at the sides of people who say both sides. The only people I ever see citing scientists that don't have political or economic incentives are those who say it is fake.
1 up, 4y
From what I've seen all the scientists saying it's fake are paid by oil and gas companies.
1 up, 4y,
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You are neither wise nor smart. And you have done zero research. Just an emotional know-it-all who actually knows absolutely nothing.
3 ups, 4y,
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Then how do you explain the ice caps melting?
1 up, 4y
Wow....just wow....fluctuations in global temperature happen as a cycle. We are seeing organic global temperature increases. There is nothing that can be done about it because man is responsible for a negligible amount of this global temperature increase. You need to do research. All you do is listen to blithering idiots, like AOC, to get your information. What a f**king joke.
2 ups, 4y,
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Hey, chill out a bit. This stream is for calm, logical debates.
3 ups, 4y
1 up, 4y,
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Respect please...I know and appreciate your sense of humor and sarcasm but I still have to mod the stream by the rules...
2 ups, 4y
Okay, you're right. Sorry about that. I hate the SJW term "trigger", but I will admit that people who blindly believe idiots like AOC do "trigger" me.
1 up, 4y,
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No worries! Cheers. I have an awesome culinary hack for you to try, will hit you on another post about it.
1 up, 4y
A "hack", hey? Every "hack" I've ever read about is total b.s., but I trust you are not yanking my chain on this!

Congressional hearing for ACB is fairly entertaining. Some of these senators are so underwhelming with regard to their oratory skills (i.e. Hirono and Crapo). Some are just not very smart (i.e. Cory Booker). Others are very good speakers and seem very intelligent (i.e. Hawley). And finally, you have the ones who are so disingenuous it is comical (i.e. the one and only, Kamala Harris, a/k/a "heels-up Harris", whose ancestors were slave owners). These democrats are so beyond desperate right now that it is a pleasure to watch. I pray to God that Trump wins this election. If he doesn't, the democrats will pack the courts, turn Puerto Rico and D.C. into states, and will implement socialism...this crap would result in civil war!
1 up, 4y
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What do you think the main focus of current politicians should be? (Besides coronavirus) I think climate change