I don't really have a problem with it, but I want to see what reasons people would have for disliking it

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it's a reallly bad system unless the parties work together, and america is honestly starting to feel like some kind of democrat vs republican warground.

I think the two-party system is a pretty good system, but both current parties are deeply corrupt and need to be replaced by new ones. Both parties hating each other for their 150+ years old racist histories instead of working on current issues us just tearing down our country.

It’s terrible!

I'm going to copy my comment from another meme:

I suspect that polarization is inevitable in two party systems. Both psychological splitting and conflation fallacies are systematically encouraged. To be healthy, a nation requires at least three viable parties, both for the sake of greater choice and for coalition building. Also, large, powerful parties subvert constitutional checks and balances, and the separation of powers.

In short, I think two-party systems are almost as utterly horrible as one-party systems.

Now, what do you mean by coalition building?

Parties would have to to compromise with other parties, so when one party or another goes off the deep end or behaves unethically their power would be limited.

Hmm, sounds like an interesting concept

Aren't some ppl also Independent? Why isn't that a party?

I think the point of being independent is not being beholden to a party.

I also really like the idea of a no-party system. Everyone runs as independents, nobody gets strong-armed into a package-deal ideology.

exactly! And then ppl would actually try to make america better, instead of trying to demean the other party. Also, we need to fix the news channels.

One party because rn we are being divided and we all need to stick together in these times. Rn It’s black versus white, Democrat versus Republican.

No offense, but people aren't gonna stop being enemies just cause parties are eliminated. The same groups of people are still gonna stick together too.

No idea what that means, never will.

It's what we have

Living in a multi-party country I can tell you a bit more. The downsides of 2 parties only is that if one party is in full power they can shape a lot. We can already see how the justice system is being shaped now by Trump for starters. It also makes people only think in extremes. Right republicans, and left democrats. Funny note the democrats are closer to left, but not nearly close to left enough to be labelled that way, when with two parties you got only two ways to think.

Now in the Netherlands were I live we got multiple parties. The most famous once are VVD (liberal party... Far RIGHT, yup, liberal is NOT a leftist movement and never was), PvdA (Social democrat. Moderate/far left), Groen Links (Green + moderate/far left), SP (Socialist party, extremely left), PVV (Populist idiot party who believe to be right), FvD (same is PVV, with with more expensive words and less foul language), 50plus (Focused on older people's interest), Partij voor de Dieren (Animal party. Focused on animal rights). ChristenUnie (Moderate left conservative, and Christian), SGP (Right conservative and christian). CDA (Moderate Christan, center). D66 (far progressive, center/moderate left).

We don't have electoral college, so the number of votes always corresponds to the number of seats won. The Dutch parliament as 150 seats so 76 or more is needed for a majority. Never in the political history of the NL that has been achieved by one party, so parties have to form a coalition with other parties. The big plus is that parties cannot gather all power to themselves and get things on the rampage in the extreme cases, as they always most compromise with their coalition partner. Downside is that sometimes things can get more complicated that way, and a lot of electoral promises (which are mostly lies from the start anyway in all countries) are already lost before the government is formed. And sometimes the electoral results can give bizarre situation, like the VVD having to cooperate with the PvdA (we call that a purple coalition) having the most rightist party having to work together with one of the most leftist parties. Surprisingly enough we did have some very robust governments back then, most of all under prime minister Wim Kok.

Another downside is that it can undermine the stability of the government. Many Dutch government fall prematurely, mostly leading to new elections before the term is over. --> TO BE CONTINUED!

And another downside is that parties must negotiate in order to come to a program how to govern the next term. In Dutch we call that a "regeerakkoord" which literally means "administration agreement".

So the pros of two parties can be, less complex situations. If Trump wins the next election he gets to pick his new government, and the same goes for Biden. That takes out a lot of time which we need in the NL to negotiate with different parties. Another pro can be is that you also have to discuss less about really pressing matters. Downsides are that one party has very much power. Too much power, and that can easily lead to wrong decisions without much opposition (even in a democracy), in a coalition your ideas are already moderated before reaching the parliament. More variation in the political field which is more than just right and left, really. Terms that are misused in the NL too by the way. A coalition allows politics to stay away from the extremes more easily. And it can keep polarization under control... well, a bit, as polarization is a problem all over the globe, but I see it most of all in the UK and the US... Two countries were mostly only 2 parties rule or at least reach the news quite often.

So both have their pros and their cons. I think it would be good for the U.S. to get rid of electoral college as that is why mostly only two parties can do, and that has a bit to do with mathematics. This could allow more political views to enter the federal political landscape, and I do think the U.S. could greatly benefit from that. Especially now Trump sets up his "lovers" and "haters" against each other we can see the two-party system is failing. However there have also been matters when I look at Trump's predecessors where the power of the president and only one party to back him up did end up to achievements which were great for both the U.S. and the rest of the globe were coalitions may not have done so easily.

Every pro has its con and vice versa.

Thank you for sharing from your perspective, it was very informative.

i think every side agrees its bad, but its getting better. for the past few years, the third parties get a bigger percent of the election and get more attention. this year is another year projected to be better than the last for third partys.

Perhaps from that standpoint it is getting better, but this is probably the most polarized the two parties have been since the civil war. I won't get into details cause this isn't the politics stream, but there are good reasons why that's happened.

“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism.” - George Washington

"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution." - John Adams

Yeaaaaah... No. It splits apart relationships and makes people argue. Just look at streams Politics and Politics TOO. Like, flames wars all over the place. I'm too dumb to think of any alternative, though.

Link:
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I wanna know what people say. I'm okay so far, but it Møicø drops its lead. . .

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I never get straight answers for that. WHY DO YOU GUYS SHIP IT?!

for fun, no-one actually wants it to happen XD

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