(not about my sexuality. about why it's a sin)

Well, when God made earth he made man to be with woman and woman to be with man. After Adam and Eve committed the first sin man and woman became attracted to the same sex. I'm not sure if you won't go to heaven if you are lesbian tbh. But we don't hate gay people, my grandmother is gay and I love her the same as the rest of my family.

The word homosexual was not in any Bible before 1946, it's a mistranslation.

A seminary student challenged the usage of the word “homosexual” in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and provided a detailed outline of his reasoning. Luther Allan Weigle, head of the RSV translation team, admitted that the translation team had indeed made a mistake and would seek to correct it in their next update.

However, Weigle had just signed a contract stating that he would not make any changes in the RSV for 10 years. During those 10 years, translation teams were working on the translations of the first New American Standard Bible, The Living Bible and New International Version Bible.

The RSV committee decided the word “homosexual” was an inaccurate translation of malakoi and arsenokoitai in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and replaced it with “sexual perverts.” An example of “sexual perverts” would be a dirty old man exposing himself to children on a playground. The RSV team admitted that the Greek word arsenokoitai was not condemning homosexuals, but instead those who were abusive in their pursuit of sexual encounters.

The historical context shows that pederasty, sex with slaves, temple prostitution and other abusive forms of sex were prevalent in the first century when the Apostle Paul wrote 1 Corinthians. Even though the Bible contains six verses that appear to condemn homosexual activity, it contains more than 200 verses that condemn heterosexual activity. So as researchers it is important for us to determine the type of homosexual or heterosexual activity being condemned.

there are a lot of rules about heterosexual activity too, b/c there are a lot of ways to sin w/ it... but it is allowed. homosexual activity in and of itself is entirely forbidden, & that's why the Bible doesn't go into detail about it as much.
1 Corinthians 6:9 isn't the only place it's mentioned. Romans mentions it & it doesn't use the word "homosexual" (prolly b/c that wasn't rlly a word but idk) but it talks about men having relations w/ men & women having relations w/ women. It states that as wrong.

Not many. Everyone thinks they all do but it's not true.

Oh cool, so...you accept that homosexuality is as valid as heterosexuality and practice love and acceptance towards people with different sexualities to your own?

Well, I don't care if two guys want to get married, good for them, but I know it's a sin and I could tell them that but it's their choice rather go listen or not. I don't hate gays, I never have, but I'll never be gay.

"but I'll never be gay."

Wdym? I'm pretty sure that if you'd been born gay, you would know by now.
It's only a sin for you because you believe in sin, it's not a sin for them if they don't believe in it.

You aren't affected by Hindu beliefs or Muslim beliefs are you? Why would non-Christians be affected by yours?

sin is objective, not personal. that's like this whole "there is no truth" thing (which would be its own statement of truth if it were true). if sin were personal, then anything that u can't stand about someone who really annoys u or makes u mad isn't sinful. Nothing in politics is sinful b/c the ppl who do it don't believe it is. Which makes me wonder, why argue what's good & bad if we deny it exists?

Exactly

ikr?

I'm saying that I'll never be gay because I know it's wrong. And, sin is not an idea it's kinda like an action, it's something people do sometimes.

I'm not affected by Hindu or Muslim beliefs because I'm a Christian not Hindu or Muslim. Those are all different religions with different ideas about good and evil actions.

That's the whole point though. Hindus and Muslims are also not affected by Christian beliefs. Just because you believe something to be a sin does not mean everyone does. And don't say, but you're right and they're wrong. They will say the same.
All we are saying is that it can't be wrong to be yourself. If you believe that you need to fit into a specific box so your god will like you than that's your problem. But don't try to force us to fit into your box. We're quite comfortable without your boxes.

I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. And dang, just chill a bit, I'm not trying to be stupid. It CAN be wrong to be yourself sometimes also.

How can it be wrong to be yourself? If you affect other people with something you do we can talk about good and bad. There are certainly bad things you can do. But how can there be bad things you can be?

Weel, not trying to be a smart @$$ but, you could be a murder, thief, ect. But you can also be bad in many other ways, I'm talking about Biblical wrongs btw.

Surely it's only wrong to be yourself if you are causing harm? Nobody is causing harm by being the gender or sexuality they are.

Yeah, exactly. No, I'm not saying they are. But, they are doing themselves harm by disobeying the Bible.

"If you want to go to heaven than yes you need obey the Bible and accept the Lord as your saviour."

And if you want to go to Jannah you must follow the Quran, and if you perform good deeds and reach Moksha you will enter Ioka, and if you follow the Torah you will be resurrected.
If you follow the Noble Eightfold Path and manage to end your suffering, you will attain Nirvana.
If you are a Subgenius and you've paid your membership fee, on X-Day, you will be transported onto spaceships for communion with Goddesses.

"Yeah, exactly. No, I'm not saying they are. But, they are doing themselves harm by disobeying the Bible."

They don't *need* to obey the Bible anymore than you need to obey the Quran or the Torah.

If you want to go to heaven than yes you need obey the Bible and accept the Lord as your saviour.

Bad wording

Wdym?

Saying it can be wrong to be yourself. It’s obviously gonna infuriate the others

We believe that everyone will be judged by God in the post-mortal life, whether or not they are Christian or not. The reason we are trying to share our faith is that we know it to be true, and we love everyone and want them to have this same joy and salvation in the end.

Yes. It’s not a sin to them if they don’t believe in sin, but to those who do believe in sin, it is. Therefore, neither of us will ever get our point across.

Exactly, belief is a really personal thing, everyone is entitled to their own. I think it's only an issue when people start trying to impose their beliefs on others.

Yeah, unless it’s an obvious no (like rape)

uhh no they said it came after sin.

are you dumb

uhh no

tlk on your img

oh i just responded 2 u. sry if im taking a long time, some subjects take a lil time to put down into words, & u want to do it right if it's something ur passionate about lol

if ppl in africa did, i wouldn't b surprised. they had sections in africa where witchcraft was flat out normal, & they were punished quite severely 4 it.

but it wasn't always. also i happen to know that in africa, there are ideas that literally make no sense. For example, in South Africa, there are 3 divisions of ppl; whites, blacks, & mulattoes, & they all hate each other. (idk if that's still true, but it was true when Trevor Noah was growing up). How can mulattoes hate blacks & whites when they flat out come from both of them? To us that prolly won't make much sense, but there, it has been true.

ik that but it still makes no kinda sense... it'd b like if u were black & ur parents abandoned u & u decided u hated all black ppl. i personally have quite a lot of heritages & there has been flack in the family about the whole ethnicity subject (mostly on my mom's side, as far as i know, but my dad's side can be crazy too), but no one in my family hates any of their own ethnicity because of it. it just perplexes me.

Or it'd be like being gay and growing to hate your family because they keep telling you it's wrong to be gay and kick you out. 🤷

it's not right 2 disown someone b/c they're gay. (that doesn't mean it's right 2 b gay). it also still isn't right 2 hate, either.

On the subject of "ideas that literally make no sense"... I would say that it makes no sense to discriminate people for who they are but that apparently happens a lot - especially in America, although they are certainly not the only ones...

r u trying to bring up race problems? cuz that ain't the topic here.

I did not. This post is about homosexuality and people being discriminated against because they are gay. Of course, racism, sexism and other problems could be boiled down to a similar problem but it wasn't my intention to do that here.

oh ok good...
i don't support discrimination of gays but i don't believe being gay is right.

Well sadly, when the end comes, every person that says they know God and follow him will be executed. But fear not what man can do to the flesh but what God can do to the soul.

"Well sadly, when the end comes, every person that says they know God and follow him will be executed. But fear not what man can do to the flesh but what God can do to the soul."

Phew! Good job I don't have one then!

Everyone has a soul, if you did not you would not be alive. ;)

Do you believe animals have souls?

Yes I do. I believe they have emotions and loving heats that care for one another. In fact, they have better morals then humans at times.

FunFact: Did you know defibrillators stop your heart rather than start it?

https://www.compellingtruth.org/human-soul.html#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20human%20soul%2C%20according%20to%20the,lives%20on%20after%20the%20body%20dies%20and%20decays.

You have just demonstrated that the 'soul' is referred to in the Bible, thanks, but I already knew that.

Fairies are referred to in many books, their characteristics and behavior are described, there are eyewitness accounts. Do you believe in fairies?

Similarly, there are detailed accounts of dragons, what they look like, how they behave, where they live. Dragons are reptiles, a kind of animal, animals are demonstrably real. Komodo dragons exist, backing up the existence of huge fire-breathing dragons. There are many written accounts of them.
Unlike 'souls', dragons can be depicted.
Dragons have been spoken about in stories all around the world for thousands of years by many different cultures that had no contact, how would that be possible if the stories weren't true.

"The oldest recognizable image of a "modern-style" western dragon appears in a hand-painted illustration from the bestiary MS Harley 3244, which was produced in around 1260. This dragon has two sets of wings and its tail is longer than most modern depictions of dragons, but it clearly displays many of the same distinctive features."

Cultures in different parts of the world recorded evidence of them in art.

" NINKI NANKA // GAMBIA
In Gambia and other parts of West Africa, the Ninki Nanka (sometimes translated as "Dragon Devil") is believed to live in swampy areas.

The Wawel Dragon, a.k.a. the Dragon of Wawel Hill, terrorized ancient Kraków, Poland. He inhabited Smocza Jama (“dragon’s den”), a limestone river cave on the banks of the Vistula, which flows below the hill where Wawel Castle sits.

PEUCHEN // CHILE
In the Mapuche and Chilote cultures of Chile, a shapeshifting dragon called the Peuchen is widely feared and revered. The Peuchen takes the form of a huge flying snake most of the time, but can camouflage itself to look like other creatures while trying to suck the blood of various animals (generally sheep). This dragon makes high-pierced whistling sounds and can paralyze its victims with its gaze."

Do you believe in dragons? If not, please explain your reasoning.

I believe in dragons, but, I also believe in spirits, demons, fallen, and many other creatures that are depicted in the Bible.

Why do you not believe in God?

This is a challenge not flirting. And I never lose the smile text challenge!

it's not every prsn unless ur talking about the revelation...

Yeah it's revelation I'm talking about.

ok then XD

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Aw, are you two flirting? Cute.

"This is a challenge not flirting. And I never lose the smile text challenge!"

Exactly, it's never happened before because it's only going to happen once

lol

XD

*sideeyes Toby...*

🙄 yeah but people from all groups do. I would say it’s slightly more prevalent in Christians, but everybody has their bigots