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Didn't even mention Medicare & SS. This woman and her equally obese husband? Probably on 6 different kinds of welfare

Didn't even mention Medicare & SS. This woman and her equally obese husband? Probably on 6 different kinds of welfare | CONSERVATIVES BE LIKE:; we can never pay slavery reparations! it's too hard, too expensive, too long ago, blah blah blah; AND I'M JUST OVER HERE LIKE: | image tagged in obese conservative american woman,conservative hypocrisy,conservative logic,slavery,social justice,welfare surfer | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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How do slavery reparations work? Does someone have to prove they descended from slaves to get them?
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There are many ways we could set it up, modeled on the schemes I’ve referenced above:

1. A public claims system, like injured veteran benefits;
2. A private claims system, like we have for mesothelioma patients;
3. A direct payment scheme, like Social Security or a tax refund that you pretty much automatically qualify for if you meet certain criteria.

It’s so remote in time that I think option #2 is pretty much off the table. It would be fiendishly difficult for many at this point to find evidence to support their claim. Also the descendants of the private individuals who could pay these claims may be insolvent or otherwise untraceable.

Option #1 would suffer from many of the same drawbacks, with the redeeming feature that you wouldn’t have to track down the responsible party.

Option #3 looks most practical and efficient to me.
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Yes, but I have a lot of questions about how such a program would work. what would be the criteria for qualifying for the benefit? Would you have to be a citizen of the US? Would you have to have family descending from slaves? Would only black slaves get the reparations (ok the number of non black slaves is vanishingly small but still)? If a black person just recently Immigrated from Africa would they get reparations? If I mark African American on my census can I get reparations (I’m not black, probably obvious) or is someone gonna check up on that? If someone is going to verify someone’s “race,” how are they going to do that? Maybe you have a resource you can point me to if you don’t have the answers to all these questions.
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All those things listed are from the current generation. There hasn’t been a person who owned a slave alive in the US for 100 years.
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And the dude in the first pic is Jerry Nadler.
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If I were to play the devil's advocate, I'd say nobody who experienced (legal) slavery by themselves is still alive today, since the last countries the abolish that did so 200 years ago, and nobody lives that long. Point #1 and #2 were part of WWII of which the last survivors are very old and won't live long anymore, but some ARE still alive. Injured veterans is even an actual problem. And Mesothelioma, mostly the result of exposure to asbestos is even still an actual problem. As a Dutch I might well ask the Spanish compensation for the horrors of the 80-years war.....

So from legal perspective, there's not much to be done to "repair", I'm afraid, and the comparisons make less sense that you may initially think. Of course recognition that (legal) slavery existed and must never be repeated can still be done, as it is a very nasty part of our history. Dates back from before Christ and existed a long time after that. And even now that slavery is no longer legal it still exists, but now it's done in an illegal manner.

Of course, this is playing the devil's advocate, I know. My point is rather that if you want to fight something bad, you need to be careful with comparing, since before you know it, you void your own points. Slavery is a big issue that befouls entire human history, and thus you can't be too careful when it comes to that.
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America doesn't owe holocaust survivors shit.
Japanese internment victims were the actual victims, injured veterans are the actual victims, mesothelioma patients are the actual victims.
Black people wanting reparations may or may not be DESCENDANTS of the actual victims and the want people of a whiter color to pay based on their skin color and those whiter people may or may not be the descendants of slave owners.

Instead of celebrating the times we live in now and taking advantage of the FACT we don't have slavery anymore, some of you would rather dwell on events that happened before your lifetime and try to enact some government welfare system, creating a whole class of government dependant SLAVES!!!!
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Maybe if the actual slaves were alive still it wouldn’t be a complete failure of “social justice”
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