Call me old-fashioned but love of God, Country & Family is better than anarchy

...and now the modern version

I'm sorry. I don't know what you are getting at. I am not descrying other family units, but I believe that this is a great one, too. I was reared by my mother and grandmother and I turned out okay... well, except for a mass shooting or two. Best of luck to you. I am a fan of your work. Vince Vance

No, It was agreeing with you. I meant we should not listen to society and believe in something higher than ourselves. Sorry for the confusion. I also like your memes and views as well.

You are kind to take the time to explain to me! With you all the way!

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SHE MUST BE CUTE!

There is only one race, the human race and it takes a family to make it great.

I am sorry that you think so little of yours. You have the ability to build a great one in spite of the failings of others that have influenced you.

If every generation had the goal of exceeding the one before it would a better world.

I am sorry if you feel that you are a victim, get over it.

Oh please, aren't you the retired 70 som'in former Hippie turned Punk Rocker turned Goth New Yorker who's lived in the UK since Hendrix played on John Peel?

I had the fortune of having a father that worked for the airlines, so we got around. I have lived in many places, seen and heard many things, lived and learned. There's so much you don't know about, having lived your whole life not more than two miles from where your mother shat you into this world.
You sound jealous, my boy.

"Tonight we live in Paris, tomorrow Brussels for lunch then Algeria for the night, then we head to Australia for a whole two days!"

Good grief, you silly coot.

You flew along with daddy on the plane?

"Uh, give me a few minutes, dad, I wanna catch the first gig of the Goth band, the Cure"

Nice try, faker.

I was right. You ARE jealous.
Must be tough growing up not knowing which of the hundreds of your mother's customers was your father.

Because being jealous of some pathetic leftover Hippie wannabe reject from Britain trying to pretend he's from MY America makes sense in your adorably empty noggin?

Is that why your daddy flew yous along every flight, to prevent your mommy from getting that 'second delivery' from the postman, mate?

Your America is the few square blocks in NY that you have never been out of, chum.
Father's Day must be tough for a bastard like you, eh?!

YOU said just last week that YOU were from NYC, you doddering nitwit.

Sure, maybe my ma mile high clubbed you on your many travels in the airplane luggage storage compartment. I have a slight feeling she wasn't that impressed, grandpa.

I also said I was from NY a month a go, and 6 months ago, even further back in time. That's because I am from NY, you brain-dead abortion.

You must a got tangled up in the umbilical cord and had the oxygen cut off from your brain a few minutes when your "ma" shat you out in that back alley.
Lucky for you the abortionist was too drunk to ream her c**t rid of you, sonny.

Sure, dimwit, never been off the block. Just too boring to venture out into the Capital of Planet Earth.

- I wasn't in England when Hendrix was on Peel, or the Cure, or Blur, or whatever you caught in your numerous travels there well into your senior years accompanying daddy so mommy won't cheat on him.

Been anyplace else, geezer?

Right, F**kFace, just like I said... you're still on the block you didn't grow up on. I bet you even have one of those whiny New Yawk accents, like a cross between Jerry Seinfeld, Eli Roth, and Bugs Bunny.
You're right, I am an old geezer...I probably f**ked your mother. Hell, I might even be your pappy, you bastard son of a bitch.

That's the spirit, keep on piling the lies, silly Brit.

You aren't from NY, you've never even been here on vacation (that's "holiday" to you folks).

I must commend you on the Vaudevillain jokes. So cute, so quaint.

So, tell me about the numerous places you 'lived' in while your pa was an airline pilot.
Ever live in more that two places a day? You know, a quick jaunt from France to Ireland then to Spain?

More boring drivel from a boring drone.
Vagabond...hmmm, isn't that just a fancy word for "bum" or "homeless beggar"??
Perhaps, since you're so find of using British vernacular, it means ass.

Oh no, grandpa looked up what "vagabond" means. I feel so ashamed.

You didn't tell me about the gazillion places you 'lived in' between your daddy's flights.
Speaking of which, where in NY did you 'live'?

Ancient history, I already told you...Sullivan st. Pay attention, bubi.

Sullivan St? You lived in the Gayborhood?
Cool.

What station did you listen to the John Peel Show on?

Wisdom is a virtue. People who do not travel are very myopic.

I don't mean to sound TOO ageist, but you got grandkids older than that guy and the closest you ever got to a gun was cocking your thumb while playing Cagney as a kid, sheesh.

Hah hah hah hah... You know so little. If you actually knew what I have done in my life and what I do now, it would blow your mind.

You're retired, remember?

Oh, that's right, you forgot.

Thank you! I am impressed with your Strength of Character AND courage. Upvote.

Hah! Unless you get accidentally shot by your kids?

If you teach your children well, you will never have to worry about that.
I am more concerned with getting shot by the idiots you support and defend.

"A mother who was the poster girl for the pro-gun lobby has been accidentally shot in the back by her toddler son. Jamie Gilt, 31, was taken to hospital after the four-year-old found her loaded pistol in the back seat of her truck as she drove through Putnam County, Florida. The little boy then pointed the .45 semi-automatic handgun at his mother and pulled the trigger, firing a round through the car seat and into his mother’s back."

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2016/03/09/pro-gun-mother-is-shot-in-the-back-by-her-toddler-son-5743279/?ito=cbshare

"A pregnant mother has been shot in the face by her 4-year-old son in the US state of Washington.

The child found a loaded unsecured gun under a mattress in the house after his father hid it there because he was afraid of a recent crime in the neighbourhood.

The mother, 27, and her partner, the boy's father, were in bed watching television when their child found the gun.

He then shot his mother unintentionally, King County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Sergeant Ryan Abbott said.

"We don't ever want to see something like this,” he added.

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The mother, who is eight-months pregnant, has been taken to Harborview Medical Center with life-threatening injuries, the King County Sheriff's Office said.

Her condition has improved and she has been transferred to another hospital, according to the Washington Post.

Under a new state law gun owners could face criminal charges for not safely storing a gun.

Detectives will be looking into the case on 4 February to see if any charges should be filed, according to KOMO-TV.

It is unclear who the gun is registered to."

"On 8 March 2013, Nathon Brooks, a high-achieving and apparently happy 14 year-old from Moses Lake, Grant County, Washington, walked into his parents’ bedroom while they were sleeping and shot both of them multiple times in the head.

No one, not even Nathon, seems exactly sure why he did it.

His own description of the attack is probably the biggest insight we can hope to get.

"Before I realised that I’d done it, I’d pulled the trigger and the gun had gone off."

Nathon Brooks

Even though you misunderstood me, I upvoted you! I like all the family types you depicted. I am merely saying that many folks want to break up the traditional family. Variety is the spice of life, but many Chinese eat rice their whole life. Have a blessed day!

The left does not want to destroy that, it wants to finish it off.

lmfao the democrats and republicans rely on the church to be a secret pedo ring :)

You seem to have been hurt as a child.

and your point is...?

Projection.

you people go for strange reaches in reaction to someone on the internet

And you went into a strange reach with that dumb meme you posted. Making it seem as if the vast majority of families were f**ked up and evil in the 50's. So projection is quite strong with you.

"And you went into a strange reach with that dumb meme you posted"

prove me wrong about that one :)

"vast majority of families"

yeah, i don't think i said the "vast majority". just the fact that people were able to get away with sickening shit much easier back then because mainstream media and church ministers were the most trusted people in the world.

"Making it seem as if the vast majority of families were f**ked up and evil in the 50's"

i mean... going back in the 50's would mean that crimes like pedophilia wouldn't be able to be discovered due to the lack of internet leaks and such, and the polio vaccine wouldn't exist either, so idk why anyone wants to go back.

why would you like to go back? genuinely curious

I never said I would want to go back. The only thing I like about the 50's is that morality on television was much higher and the overall love of country was higher. There weren't as many idiots burning and spitting on the flag, and patriotism was greater.

Little did anyone know was how much the great generation breeding a bunch of whiny, entitled brats who would later go on to destroy this country inside and out.

I wouldn't go so far as to blame the greatest generation for the present evils. The spoiled their kids because they didn't want them to suffer the privation of the Thirties or the War of the Fourties.

I'm not blaming them for the actions of their children, but they did contribute. At least the great generation took responsibility for their own actions, even apologizing for not raising their children with more respect and discipline.

Well they did have fully functional spinal cords then too, as opposed to the gummi worms today's millees flounder around the chair they spend 90% of the day on with.

"morality on television was higher"

Do you mean that you liked that tv was less representative?

No, I said morality on television was higher, not there were less black people. Way to twist my words and inject race into it.

I didn't mention race, way to put words in my mouth and inject race into it.

*Fewer black people, not less.

"Good job it's not up to you, eh?
Out of curiosity, do you genuinely believe that the consensual practices other people engage in during their free time have any impact whatsoever on your life? If so, how?"

They can do whatever they want. I don't care what two consenting adults do together, as long as it's legal. Just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean I'm going to actively hunt them down and shame them.

"What is it about someone marrying the person they love or expressing the gender that they are do you feel uncomfortable about?"

God says it's a sin. I and a Christian.

I AM a Christian*

I've been to an LGBTQ+ church service.

Lots of gay people are also Christians. When you say 'God says it's a sin', do you mean that men wrote down a long time ago that a man said that God had told him it was a sin?
Is that really a good reason to not accept people?

We are people, we are adaptable, we can think critically.
Do you follow absolutely everything it says in the Bible or do you use your judgement and ability to think critically to make choices about what to follow?

Belief is a choice. You are choosing to have a problem with people who are doing nothing other than being authentic to themselves and being happy.

It's funny, liberals are often accused of not thinking critically but are also statistically more likely not to be the people taking their guidance from an ancient book written for living in a different place during different times. You know that there are almost no white people in it?

"Lots of gay people are also Christians. When you say 'God says it's a sin', do you mean that men wrote down a long time ago that a man said that God had told him it was a sin?
Is that really a good reason to not accept people?"

Yes, there are people who consider themselves Christians. That doesn't negate the fact that God considers it a sin. I had sex outside of marriage, with multiple people. I was living in sin. Just because I did that and considered myself a Christian, doesn't mean I was free from the sin I committed.

"We are people, we are adaptable, we can think critically.
Do you follow absolutely everything it says in the Bible or do you use your judgement and ability to think critically to make choices about what to follow?"

We are all sinners, so we cannot follow perfectly in compliance with the Bible, but we can do the best we can with God's help. As long as we follow Christ and do what we can to keep away from sin.

"Belief is a choice. You are choosing to have a problem with people who are doing nothing other than being authentic to themselves and being happy."

I don't have a problem with it. Like I said, whatever two consenting adults do with each other, I don't care. I know it to be a sin as God has told us, but what they do is between them and God. I'm not sure how many times I have to state this.

"It's funny, liberals are often accused of not thinking critically but are also statistically more likely not to be the people taking their guidance from an ancient book written for living in a different place during different times. You know that there are almost no white people in it?"

I understand what you're getting at at the beginning of that paragraph, but you kind of lost me on the last part. Yes, the Bible is an old book. It was written by many different men based on what God told them to write. The author of the Bible is ultimately God Himself, written through man.

As for there not being a lot of white people in it, I'm not understanding what the purpose of that statement was. Are you suggesting I wouldn't want to follow a book that is full of no white people? I'm confused. And there were many cultures represented in the Bible. Cultures that have or had many different people with different skin color. Again, I'm not really sure what you're getting at with that statement. Sorry.

"As for there not being a lot of white people in it, I'm not understanding what the purpose of that statement was. Are you suggesting I wouldn't want to follow a book that is full of no white people? I'm confused. And there were many cultures represented in the Bible. Cultures that have or had many different people with different skin color. Again, I'm not really sure what you're getting at with that statement. Sorry."

It was just an aside, I find it curious that so many traditionalist white conservatives, many of them racist (I'm thinking of people I've seen at Trump rallies who claim to be Christians and are being explicitly racist), take their guidance for how to conduct themselves from an ancient book co-authored by non-white men. Sin is a created subjective concept, believing in it is a choice. I feel that it's more important to be kind.

The Bible was written to control people that lived thousands of years ago, I get that some people struggle to create their own moral framework and need to be told what to think, I think if you need that, it's just worth trying to be mindful about whether or not it's harming anyone.

How else am I supposed to take that?

I said representation, in the 50's there was no representation of same-sex relationships, homosexuals, transgender people, people following religions other than Christianity, single-parent families afaik and yeah sure, like you said, poc.

Yes, since I don't condone same sex marriage and transsexuals, it would be a morality issue.

Good job it's not up to you, eh?
Out of curiosity, do you genuinely believe that the consensual practices other people engage in during their free time have any impact whatsoever on your life? If so, how?

What is it about someone marrying the person they love or expressing the gender that they are do you feel uncomfortable about?

"morality on television was much higher"

i am curious as to what you mean by "morality". as far as television goes, i think what makes this decade (i mean the 2010s) better than the fifties is television practically dying out. instead of getting things shoved down our throats we can look for content we actually want via streaming and internet.

"...overall love of country was higher. There weren't as many idiots burning and spitting on the flag, and patriotism was greater."

never mind the rioters and such for now because they make up a vocal minority of idiots that the media use for clickbait and views. regarding country love, couldn't the decrease in patriotism be due to the corruption in our politics and the evil business practices done under our noses?

"Little did anyone know was how much the great generation breeding a bunch of whiny, entitled brats who would later go on to destroy this country inside and out."

hang on... you talking about how the great generation raised the boomers? that's based. if you're talking about the millennials, keep in mind that the boomers raised the millennials, not the great generation.

Someone is shoving something down your throat? Well, if you didn't consent then that is an issue, have you reported it?

what usually ends up being on television is a pro-israel news source i don't trust.

Due to internet leaks wha?

Don't tell me, you were one of those toddlers whose crib playset was a tablet while mommy watched her soaps and made some side cash 1(800)ing lonely gents.

"Before the web, you had to hunt mammoths with spearz for din din and had to cook them on logs cuz you ain't got no microwave, yuk yuk"

It's a favorite response, "you don't agree with me?! You must have suffered some kind of trauma!" It's a very weird way to talk.

Begone anti-Abrahamic

no lol :)