Zodiac Killer with another kill

a few rioters did it not the whole left

People are rioting because they perceive their lives under threat of law enforcement and so feel they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. True, that is a personal failure on their part and they should be held accountable for their crimes. It is also an ongoing failure of the police department to not maintain the public trust in these communities.

While there are certainly popular good guy cops that are now being flashed all over the internet. Poster boy cops that can't possibly do no wrong because they go into poor cities and gives children ice cream. Aw, that means everything is okay.

Wrong. When that same department gives special protections to police officers that commit crimes while on duty, all those PR cops go to waste. They mean nothing if their priorities are protecting their own over the protecting the lives of the citizens.

These same protections are not afforded to people who riot, let alone the peaceful protesters swept up in the confusion. Is there support from the public to protect them? Maybe so, but those charged with more serious crimes cannot be bailed out. And it is unlikely our justice system will be able to successfully determine which are wrongfully arrested and the real troublemakers because of it's own ongoing internal bias, financial quotas, and agendas.

If you want to unite the country, you do not adopt divisive rhetoric and then vigorously defend it by taking more extreme positions against extreme oppositions. You find the common ground and you focus on that.

Wish that was what our politicians could do but it seems we're on our own.

When BLM demands whites bend the knee before them I'm not seeing any middle ground.

#1 that's not even close to what's happening. What's funny, though, is that white supremacists are so paranoid about losing their dominance in the status quo, that any progress people of color make toward equality, you see it as complete and utter subjugation for white people, which is really disgusting when you think about it.

Then don't bend the knee to BLM. Find the middle ground if the other side refuses to do it for you.

Hence

"Wish that was what our politicians could do but it seems we're on our own."

Why would they want to change something that's been a benefit to them for the past 100 + years?

Do you feel the same way about the riots that happened after Martin Luther King, Jr was assassinated? Probably. And this is pure critical thinking on your part, right? No personal feelings involved...?

I believe I said...

"True, that is a personal failure on their part and they should be held accountable for their crimes."

Again, there are people escalating things on purpose to delegitmize the peaceful protests. Maybe BLM. Maybe Police. Maybe local news. Maybe national news. I bet the FBI is on top of it. If not the CIA. We'll probably never know the whole story.

But BLM has made efforts to prove their intention is peaceful. I would not bend the knee to them. Mostly because my knees aren't what they use to be but I just so happen to listen better than most people on my feet.

Maybe BLM. Maybe Police. Maybe local news. Maybe national news, maybe antifa, maybe republicans, maybe democrats

Democrats and Republicans don't like to get their hands dirty.

Well, that may be your opinion that organizations that seek to end police brutality through non-violent means may be evil and you might even have people that share that view that they are terrorists. But, the facts are not on your side.

I see no evidence of them doing anything violent. Other than saying words you don't like.
Their target is cops that defend and commit police brutality. Especially those that aim to kill unarmed civilian which they wrongfully assume are often black. Though, the jury is still out on whether or not unarmed black Americans have a higher chance of being killed by a cop than unarmed white Americans. I'm still looking for that data. There are definitely racist undertones that are much more prevalent than when they first appeared but beyond that criticism, the rest of your opinion is very alarmist in nature.

Well, my personal interpretation is that it means to give cops who kill unarmed civilians the electric chair. Seems reasonable. The interpretation anyway. I believe a few states still use the electric chair for the death penalty.

And to most conservatives, the death penalty is pretty reasonable for murderers.

Because it was a Caucasian woman who set the Wendy's on fire.

Kinda like not all police are bad...

agree

Yes but are bad police held as accountable as rioters or are they protected so they can go on being bad police?

We talking about the policeman that was put it jail, or the rioters that are being encouraged? Be specific.

Yes, a pity Chauvin was recorded by protesters. Or he would've gotten away with it like the hundreds of other cops who do this every year. Cops enjoy too much luxury of protection from the law. Sure, a cop shoots a civilian that's armed, they get the benefit of the doubt. Sure, a cop shoots someone thats unarmed but they come at them, they get the benefit of the doubt. When a cop causes the death of someone that isn't fighting back or isn't armed. Someone who is handcuffed or even as a medical condition they aren't aware of, they get the benefit of the doubt. Until video evidence surfaces. Then that doubt goes out the door. Cop cameras have helped. Civilians with phone cameras have been even better. A pity it took civilians with phones to hold one cop accountable. There are more stories where other victims of cops weren't so lucky. And the justice department fights tooth and nail to protect these criminals. This. Must. Stop.

You state these claims, but how do you back them up? If there's no recording, how do you know hundreds of cops get away with murder every year? How do you know Chauvin would've gotten clean off if not for that particular recording? 100% conjecture it would seem.

Oh, you want a source? Okay. Here are some sources.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed

And here, you'll like this one since it fits in a point of painting former Presidents in a not so flattering light but nonetheless reaffirms that the federal government doesn't much care about oversight when it comes to homicides by police.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/06/11/george-floyd-police-killings-violence-neglected-federally-column/5320501002/

I see a big old "opinion" in that URL.

Yes, an opinion formed by facts. And the fact of the matter is, you're right. We only have conjecture until we have data. And the federal government not keeping track of that data and holding law enforcement unaccountable can certainly be viewed as miscarriage of justice.

How do we know for sure they're not holding them accountable though? I'd be interested seeing the number of officers jailed every year.

So would I. So, maybe the Justice Department should collect that data and release it to the public.

Oh, and by the way, that is one of the demands of BLM and CHAZ.

Imagine that, you just agreed with them.

I agree about some things with a lot of people and organizations I mostly disagree with. Obviously equality is a worthy cause, but when you achieve "equality" by degrading and harming everyone around you that cause loses its worth.

Also agreed. I'm not much interested in groups with unifying goals. Especially if those goals are too broad. Of if those goals involve real harm. This is why I cannot specifically support Antifa or MeToo.

And while BLM has rhetoric that is racist, they haven't crossed that black supremacy line yet. I'm sure if it keeps getting pushed it may but when BLM forgets that there are multicultural families, as only one or two of them did when they first emerged, forcing multicultural families apart just for a photo op, then they will officially lose my ear.

Personally, I'm enjoying them making fools of politicians on the Left and the Right. And I'm sure nothing will come of it either. But I am rather cynical in nature.

Feels good to be able to agree about stuff. :)

*in

Kinda like bad cops?

A few Southerners owned slaves, not the whole Democratic Party. But the Dems went with it anyway.

So did Republicans after the civil war when ex-slaves were moving in next door.

You can't blame white flight on just Republicans. The Democrats herded the blacks up and put them in housing projects.

I'm not denying that the US was founded by white supremacists. But we're trying to grow past that and Trump just wants to bring it back. That's what MAGA is about: making America the way it was in the 30's and 40's.

Timber, just stop already. We all know many of our founding fathers owned slaves and we also know how they treated Native Americans, and how they banned the Chinese from migrating for a while. GMAFB. And I didn't say the US was founded in the 30s and 40s. I said that's what MAGA means. Put your bifocals on.

Ummm. Not so.