Don't point to hypocrites, focus on the doctrine.

Yeah, those darn Egyptians anyway.

And the Saxons and Chinese and various African tribes and Cheyenne and the Sioux and the Portuguese and the Romans and the Goths and the VIsigoths and the Vikings and the English and the Spanish and the French and the Japanese and the Apaches and Comanches and the Arapahos and the Pawnee and the Brazilians and the Greeks and the Babylonians and the Irish and the Italians and the Normans and the Norwegians and the Swedes and the Russians and the Turks and the Scots and the Dutch and the Chileans and the Algerians and the Argentinians and the Netherlands and the Estonians and the Venezuelans and the Colombians and the Mexicans and the Uruguayans and the Moldavians and and the Tunisians and Morocans and the Peruvians and the Cubans and the Puerto Ricans and the Gold Coast and the Cambodians and the Icelanders and the Persians and the Somalis and Madagascar and Cameroon and Sudan and Congo and Burma and the absolute worstest of them all for all time, the United States of America!
Of course those horrendous Hebrews had a law that required them to release their slave every 7 years unless the slave wanted to stay. But like all mankind, not all of them played by the rules so God punished them. Didn't think you'd mind if I rounded out your list a little, I know it takes time.

Trying to help keep Mexicans out?

Naw, my best friends are legal Mexicans. Entiendo?

Nope, got it wrong, slaves were slaves. You must be thinking of the Romans.

Hey, wanna donate? I'm thinking of starting a charity doing like a Gideon Bible but the Bibles will be sent to Bible thumpers so they can at least read the darn thing they yap so much about.

Here's what gets me: I went to Catholic school for everything except kindergarten and 3 semesters at Hunter College. So therefore, other than the story of the Widow's Mite at mass, I learned nothing about the Bible.

But there was this classmate when I was round 16 who had just turned Baptist, and he showed me some stuff. I picked a few little things in the years since, but all in all, it's all pretty scanty.
Yet what little I know, Fundamentalists don't. They rant about it, but are even more ignorant about it than I am.

So I wanna help them out.

I wasn't aware that the Catholic Bible and the Protestant Bible were any different, but from what I had heard, the Mary early life stuff was 'improvised'

"Was it immaculate for you too?"

Didn't know about the Noah thing, but heard the Commandments thing not too long ago but then forgot!

Isn't there a whole Mary background story they tell about her never having committed a single sin since childhood and whatnot that isn't in there either?

Oh, and that her mother was rather old and barren until OOPS! baby Mary.

Then I hear in recent years there's not much in there about her, and nothing about birth, growing up, etc.

The dude in HS that went Baptist, he started telling friends about stuff IN the Bible, stuff we ain't heard. Everyone shook their heads in disbelief, even after he said he'd show them.
But I went, we looked stuff up. I was amazed at what we never heard in class or mass,,,
I wanted to convert, but wasn't allowed by muh ma. So I stopped going to Church altogether.

Don't worry. You didn't miss a thing.

Oh, we're playing Tell Other People What Their Argument Is And Then Ask Them To Justify It?

Ok, ok..I know this one, it's The problem people have with what are claimed to be Judeo-Christian values are that they are typically sexist, homophobic, racist and generally exclusionary. Rather than accepting that some people want to live their lives differently, people with 'Judeo-Christian values' see other people living their lives differently as a direct attack on them and what they believe in.
Despite the fact that society has been inexorably moving further and further from their stated ideal and this has demonstrably not caused the problems they claimed it would, they continue to react with fear, hatred and misinformation.

Yeah whatever, have you even read the exclusionary Bible, or just verses taken out of context? So let's ditch it all; the not murdering, not lying, not stealing, of course that would achieve the goals of the Democrat Party Platform.

Yup. Have you?

Things like not murdering, not lying and not stealing are not Christian ideas as evidenced by the fact that both people of other religions and Atheists practice them.

Yes, over 100 times cover to cover, 7 different versions. Which world religions spell them out? Islam? No, kill, steal lie in the name of Allah. Hinduism? Nope, in fact if you give a starving person a piece of bread you are f**king with his karma, Buddhism? Naw, there is an Americanized version that believes anything, Buddhists are actually pretty violent, killing, pillaging and what not. Hey I know, Native Americans!! Dang it , not them either, stole each other's land, ponies and women, loved to kill other tribes and make slaves out of captives. So which world religions spell it out so clearly as being wrong?

"The essence of being a Sikh is that one lives one’s life according to the teachings of the Sikh Gurus, devotes time to meditating on God and the scriptures (Aad Guru Granth Sahib) and performs deeds to help and benefit other people.

Sikhs believe that there is a Single, All-Powerful God, who created the universe and everything within it The God is common to all humanity.

Sikhism emphasizes social and gender equality, and stresses the importance of behaving altruistically.

· Equality: Everyone is equal in God’s eyes; whatever their caste, creed or gender. God is accessible without priests: Everyone can be directly in touch with God. There is no need for clergy in Sikhism.

· Accept other faiths: Sikhs do not believe that any religion has monopoly on the
Truth. They do not regard Sikhism as the only way to God.

·Live in the world: A Sikh should live a responsible life as part of the community. Withdrawing from the world or becoming an ascetic are not recommended in Sikhism

·Discard Ritualism: Empty rituals are meaningless and should be discarded.

·Devotion can take the form of action as well as the prayer: Personal devotion includes Naam simran (meditation on and awareness of God) and Sewa (community service).

·A good world is just and fair to all: Social justice is to be supported in equality for all. The use of force as a last resort is justified to support it.

·Death is not the end: Death is seen as the transition to a life where the joy of being in the presence of God can be fully realized."

Wow JRBD, with your highly skilled ability to selectively chose your sources and omit anything contrary to your agenda and to cherry pick quotes, you should be a Pulitzer Prize winning correspondent for the NYT or the Washington Post. Nothing you elaborate here deserves a response. In the Kurahn every edict from the early writings is superseded by later writings, so everything you puke out is out of date and flat ass wrong. See why addressing your doctrine is a waste of time? Of course you don't.

That's your idea of a rebuttal? That was just as lazy as your reading habits. I'd ask for a source but I expect it would be Conservapedia, I suspect the only reason you haven't already shared that is because you're at least smart enough to see how hypocritical it would make you sound.

What do you want. a dissertation on all your misstatements? Forget it. I could break down everything you've written point point but it won't change your views. Just this question, do you think eternity is a long time to be wrong about Jesus Christ?

Hah, a false dichotomy. Oh, you could but you're not going to, riiight. Is ridiculous that you think you know anything about him.
If you had the ability to think critically you wouldn't be claiming knowledge of a guy who may or may not have lived over 2000 years ago and was largely written about by people that had never met him! How tenuous can you get?

No punk, I am not cowering in the corner. I could tell you that the Bible is full of prophecy, much of it fulfilled and documented in history, much of the prophecy locked in history by recorded human events and all fulfilled. I could explain to you the prophetic events that have unfolded over the past 50 years, but for you, life is a hoax. What you don't know is that you are written of in history, you are one of the mockers saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? " Romans 1 has no meaning to you. 2 Timothy 3, not specific enough for a true mocker. I could list out about 1,000 easy proofs of the existence of God based on scripture and a clinical analysis, and I wouldn't even point to a single example of the transformed lives of people who have come to Christ, no you will mock just as God said you would, and others will join you, and you will be satisfied with your brilliant retorts, thinking you have vanquished myth. Like I said, eternity is a long, long time. Are you really that certain about Christ that you are content to live your eternal life separated from God? That's hell, just what you want, an eternal existence without God. Good luck.

Haha, did you just call an anarchist "punk" and intend it as an insult?

Are you aware of confirmation bias?
Oh wow, the creators of and contributors to a religion said that in the future people would question it, well who could have guessed that?

It's fine, you keep your fairytale, unlike you, I'm not a facist that tries to impose beliefs on others. I think everyone should be entitled to believe what they like, I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of thought. My issue is with people who decide that whatever story they choose to believe in is objectively true and start trying to impose it on other people.

You are just a person, I am just a person, everyone on the planet is just a person, we are having these thoughts with the brains in our heads, our thoughts are electrical signals. When our brains stop working, the electrical signals stop. I know it would be a comfort to think that those signals are somehow preserved after our brains stop but that goes against all scientific reasoning, which is our best understanding of things.
Good for you that you think you have special knowledge and understand the unknown, please excuse me if I'm not insecure enough to join in with your delusion.

What do you think? I have a lifetime to persuade you? Enough. This is a lame meme site, want some critical thought? Climate change is a hoax, it denies every science. Prove me wrong.

Life is a hoax. You cower in the corner, hiding yourself behind your weak narrative, layers of it being gradually stripped from you by science. Your arrogance, your childish refusal to see the truth is fascinating.
How odd, the need to revolve your life around a 2000 year old dead Jew.
Most intelligent minds grow out of the need for fairytales, maybe it's not just fear?
Maybe it's arrogance, you feel special. You think that this was all for you, gifted with a world and every animal in it. You're like an insufferable , self-righteous spoilt child, you excuse this with your fantasy that you have sinned, that you are truly moral, that you are atoning.

What narcissistic theatre.

Ok punk, lets do a little critical thinking. Let's say you tell me there are crocodiles in the Nile River. I don't believe in crocodiles, never seen one, so I don't believe they exist. Nile River? I've never seen it, so I don't believe it exists either, so as for your claim that there are Crocodiles in the Nile, I regard that as infantile fairy tails, I've never seen either, let alone in combination therefore you are a fool and a clown.
You are about to say, what does that have to with anything? It's your logic applied to a different situation. You can provide me with National Geographic documentaries, eye witness accounts, government documentation and observed data. So what. I don't believe anything you say, sticking to my guns, if I haven't seen them, you are just a shill for crocodiles myths.
So yes, anarchist punk. Rip it all down, and build back what? History shows you'll create another shit hole country. Thanks, just what we all needed another shit hole.

Oh, punk. Let's try dinosaurs for your next lesson in logic. Every little kid loves dinosaurs, you love dinosaurs? I don't believe in that fairy tale. You ever seen one? No, no no, all those bones in the museums? They're fakes, plaster casts. So they find some hip bone and fabricate a dinosaur out of whole cloth. All fakes, every museum. So you say you have evidence? Really? What color were they, warm blooded, cold blooded. Doesn't matter, have you ever seen one? They don't exist all a big hoax a lie.
Oh sure all those angry old white men who probably descended from slave owners dug a bunch of holes in my backyard here in Western Colorado, and put plater casts of what they found in the Field Museum in Chicago, but they are just a bunch of old guys who came up with fancy fables and wild guesses. Oh sure the largest dinosaur said to be discovered at the time, the Supersaurus was dug up by someone I know, but it was just a femur, or so they said. Ever seen a dinosaur? Of course not.
So take your anarchy and shove it up your reamed out free lovin' ass. Peace weirdo.

"Jainism is very similar to Buddhism, but at the same time, their beliefs are quite different from each other. The main concern of this religion is the welfare of every living being in this Universe.

1. Living Soul
Jains believe that animals, plants, humans (irrespective of different spiritual development) all have a living soul in them and all should be treated with equal respect and love.

2. Strictly Vegetarian
Jains are strictly vegetarian and try to consume as less world’s resources as possible, whereas Buddhists do consume meat.

3. Self-help
Jains believe in self-help and they try to get out of difficult situations on their own. They don’t believe that some spiritual being will help them.

4. Reincarnation
They believe in reincarnation (rebirth) and try to attain ultimate liberation by attaining total freedom from the control of others.

5. They believe in five great vows that may lead one to liberation-
(a) Ahimsa – Jains believe in complete non-violence. They believe that even mental torture (harsh words or actions) should be avoided at all costs.

(b) Asteya – Never steal anything from someone else’s possession. They believe that even when accepting help or aid from someone, one shouldn’t take more than what is the minimum needed. To take more than is needed is considered theft in Jainism.

(c) Brahmacharya – Sexual restraint. Sexual pleasure is considered as an infatuating force which distracts one from his aim in Jainism. They believe that the sexual relationship with your own spouse should be limited.

(d) Satya – They believe that one should speak the truth if it is pleasant or remain silent if the truth is painful for others.

(e) Aparigraha – Never have an attachment with any possession as it is believed that attachment may result in greed, jealousy, selfishness etc."

Wow! You really know your stuff.

Theology is really interesting, I'm aware of Jainist beliefs although I didn't type that all out. It's already doing them a favor sharing the info, who reads the Bible 100 times but hasn't got time to find out that other religions advocate peaceful, moral behavior? Seriously.

It's ridiculous for Christians to claim that extremists in other religions represent that religion but that Christian extremists aren't true Christians.

Pick one already.

I pick mickey mouse as god and George Carlin as the prophet. Lol

Sikhism:-"The Sikh code of conduct is called Sikh Rahit Maryada (SRM) and stipulates four major mandates, or cardinal commandments, for the baptized Sikh which are mandatory after being initiated as Khalsa. The initiate must refrain from:

Hajaamat – Dishonoring, removal, or alteration, of any hair on the body, face, or scalp.
Halaal – Eating of flesh especially that killed in the manner of sanctioned sacrificial slaughter as proscribed in Islamic law.
Haraam – Adulterous relations with the spouse of another. Relations with a Muslim woman for whom consequence might be the death penalty for consorting outside of marriage or Islam.
Hukaa – Use of tobacco and other intoxicants."

Buddhism:"The Buddhist path is often characterized as consisting of three components: sila (ethics), samadhi (concentration), and panna (wisdom). The Five Precepts (Panca-Silani) are the foundation of ethics for Buddhist lay practitioners. Unlike the biblical Ten Commandments, the precepts are not divine edicts, but are intended as training rules. Buddhists observe them in order to live skillfully and happily in harmony with other beings, to obtain good karma and fortunate rebirth, and to make progress along the path to awakening.

The first and most important precept is the precept to refrain from destroying living creatures:
“Panatipata veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami.”

It’s the Buddhist version of the biblical Sixth Commandment (“Thou Shalt Not Murder”) and roughly parallels the Hindu/Jain doctrine of ahimsa (non-harming)."

Hinduism:"Hindus oppose killing for several reasons. Belief in karma and reincarnation are strong forces at work in the Hindu mind. They full well know that any thought, feeling or action sent out from themself to another will return to them through yet another in equal or amplified velocity. What we have done to others will be done to us, if not in this life then in another. The Hindu is thoroughly convinced that violence which he commits will return to him by a cosmic process that is unerring. Two thousand years ago South India's weaver saint Tiruvalluvar said it so simply, "All suffering recoils on the wrongdoer himself. Therefore, those who desire not to suffer refrain from causing others pain." A similar view can be found in the Jain scripture Acaranga Sutra:

To do harm to others is to do harm to oneself. You are he whom you intend to kill. You are he whom you intend to dominate. We corrupt ourselves as soon as we intend to corrupt others. We kill ourselves as soon as we intend to kill others.

Because of the knowledge of reincarnation, the Hindu knows that he may one day be in the same position of anyone he might be inclined to harm or persecute. The Hindu who is consciously aware within his soul knows that he is the time traveller and may incarnate, take a body of flesh in the society he most opposed, in order to equalize his hates and fears into a greater understanding which would result in the release of ignorance. The knowledgeable Hindu is well aware of all these possibilities."

Maybe the reason you aren't learning anything is that you just keep reading the same book over and over, maybe switch it up?

"6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida 5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d. 464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking money, killing people or violating what God has made it unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”

7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.

8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those who harm you and is said to have commanded, “Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)

9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]

10. The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise if they believe and do good works, and commends Christians as the best friends of Muslims. I wrote elsewhere, “Dangerous falsehoods are being promulgated to the American public. The Quran does not preach violence against Christians.

Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness–their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.”

In other words, the Quran promises Christians and Jews along with Muslims that if they have faith and works, they need have no fear in the afterlife. It is not saying that non-Muslims go to hell– quite the opposite."

"1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”

4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national jurisconsult.

5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)"

Islam: The basic teachings of Islam are called the Five Pillars of Faith and comprise confession of faith, prayer, giving alms, fasting during Ramadaan, and making a pilgrimage to Mecca. These are often also called the Five Pillars of Islam.

The confession of faith is that there is only one god, which is Allah, and that Muhammad was his final prophet. The teachings of the Qur’an are considered to be eternal and for all humans. Prayer includes the five daily prayers, community prayers, individual meritorious prayers, and prayers that go above and beyond what is required.

Giving alms is considered a religious duty and requires no less than 2.5 percent of the income over what one needs to survive. The duty of fasting during Ramadaan applies to all Muslims, with exceptions made for pregnant women, sick people, travellers, children and nursing mothers. The pilgrimage to Mecca is to take place during the month of Zu'l-Hijjah and must be done once in a lifetime.

You found it that incomprehensible?

"No, kill, steal lie in the name of Allah."

If you are going to decide that the actions of Muslim extremists represent Islam then you have to accept that Christian extremists represent Christianity.

Every Christian missionary that spread disease, every Crusader, every Christian that claimed a child was a witch and abused them, every Ku Klux Klan member, this guy-> On 16 July 2001, Peter James Knight walked into the East Melbourne Fertility Clinic, a private abortion provider, carrying a rifle and other weapons[74] including 16 litres of kerosene, three lighters, torches, 30 gags, and a handwritten note that read "We regret to advise that as a result of a fatal accident involving some members of staff, we have been forced to cancel all appointments today". Knight later stated that he intended to massacre everyone in the clinic, and attack all Melbourne abortion clinics. He developed home made mouth gags and door jambs to restrain all patients and staff inside a clinic while he doused them with the kerosene.[75] He shot 44-year-old Stephen Gordon Rogers, a security guard, in the chest, killing him. Staff and clients overpowered him soon after. He intended to massacre the 15 staff and 26 patients at the clinic by burning them alive.

The parents of this person-> "Mariah is 20 but she’s frail and permanently disabled. She has pulmonary hypertension and when she’s not bedridden, she has to carry an oxygen tank that allows her to breathe. At times, she has had screws in her bones to anchor her breathing device. She may soon have no option for a cure except a heart and lung transplant – an extremely risky procedure.

All this could have been prevented in her infancy by closing a small congenital hole in her heart. It could even have been successfully treated in later years, before irreversible damage was done. But Mariah’s parents were fundamentalist Mormons who went off the grid in northern Idaho in the 1990s and refused to take their children to doctors, believing that illnesses could be healed through faith and the power of prayer."

These Christians-"Two of 27 such cases that were referred to the Metropolitan police involved children who claimed they were raped in attacks linked to witchcraft. One allegation involved a church pastor who was alleged to have swung a child around banging the youngster’s head to “drive out the devil”.

In recent years, the referrals have come mainly from the African Christian churches"

Luckily there never was such a thing as the Dark Ages but as god said in Bruce almighty: he took some time of.
Luckily there never was a religious conflict in Northern Ireland between catholics and protestants.
Luckily pope Pius XII never existed and didn't help Hitler.
Luckily there never was a violent conversion to christianity in the history of the world, especially when europe colonised a great part of the world.
Etc...

And to the original question, what is wrong with these specific core beliefs, not the religion or it's practitioners, but that's not what you want to answer.

Universal humanitarian values have little to do with religions. You can read all superman or spiderman comics and come to the same conclusion.