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Sen. Romney: marching to the beat of his own drum and all the better for it.

Sen. Romney: marching to the beat of his own drum and all the better for it. | image tagged in black lives matter,blacklivesmatter,mitt romney,republicans,republican,protest | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,255 views 3 upvotes Made by KylieFan_89 5 years ago in politics
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2 ups, 5y,
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He should switch sides
Republicans shun him as it stands now
There aren’t any moderates Republicans left in, let’s face facts,Trumps party
2 ups, 5y,
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Many Never-Trumpers like him have switched sides or retired, but I'm happy he's staying in the party and fighting and leading an example of a principled, reality-based GOP.

This is why Trumpies hate him so much, but all the better.

In the end, we need both parties to be rational in order for America to work.
1 up, 5y,
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LOL...more KF Logic: see the world my way and you're "principled and reality based"
0 ups, 5y,
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/mitt-romney-impeachment-vote-speech-transcript-110849

This Senate floor speech was a lot of things: Logical, concise, patriotic, genuine, politically brave. Probably the best summary of Trump's Impeachment I've read from any source, Left or Right.

I liked this bit at the end:

"I acknowledge that my verdict will not remove the President from office. The results of this Senate Court will in fact be appealed to a higher court: the judgement of the American people. Voters will make the final decision, just as the President’s lawyers have implored. My vote will likely be in the minority in the Senate. But irrespective of these things, with my vote, I will tell my children and their children that I did my duty to the best of my ability, believing that my country expected it of me. I will only be one name among many, no more or less, to future generations of Americans who look at the record of this trial. They will note merely that I was among the senators who determined that what the President did was wrong, grievously wrong.

"We’re all footnotes at best in the annals of history. But in the most powerful nation on earth, the nation conceived in liberty and justice, that is distinction enough for any citizen."

Speaking of distinction, here is a little-known one: Romney is the only Senator in U.S. History to have ever voted to remove a President from his own Party. That gives him a strong claim to being the most nonpartisan Senator ever.

The more you know.

Moral courage. Conviction. Patriotism. Speaking difficult truths. Putting country above party.

Things the GOP used to stand for.
1 up, 5y
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"Moral courage. Conviction. Patriotism. Speaking difficult truths. Putting country above party"

Hahaha
1 up, 5y,
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Bahahha...just more of the illogical argument that follows "see the world my way, and I approve of you"

When Mitt was running against Obama he was viewed by anything but "Logical, concise, patriotic, genuine, politically brave."

You're a joke.
1 up, 5y,
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I didn't vote for either Romney or Obama in 2012 (I voted Johnson), but with the benefit of hindsight, I'd have preferred to see Mitt Romney winding down his second term right now.

Circa 2012, Romney was generally seen by Democrats as a cringey and tone-deaf plutocrat, but you could not really argue against his competence and experience. Nor could you argue against Obama's by that point. The public perception of him at the time is well-described in this lovely parody video.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=mitt+romeny+style&docid=608019192474304657&mid=F309AE81E49F9B1203FBF309AE81E49F9B1203FB&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Romney's reputation among liberals has since improved considerably.

So: forgive us for not predicting the depths to which the GOP would later fall, I guess.

And who's primarily responsible for that devolution?

Oh yeah: Trump and his supporters.

It's okay, he won't be President for much longer.
1 up, 5y,
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Dude, do you know how to read? You basically just repeated what I have been saying.

"Romney's reputation among liberals has since improved considerably."

Even though you admit "Romney really hasn't changed"

Thanks for proving my point. Again.
0 ups, 5y,
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Indeed. Intervening circumstances have forced a re-evaluation.

His reputation among liberals improved. And his reputation among diehard Trump loyalists has fallen in equal proportion for the exact same reason.

I think they still like him enough in Utah, though.
1 up, 5y,
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But. He. Didn't. Change.

You keep dieing on the same hill
0 ups, 5y,
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I think if you voted for Romney, then you supported him, however reluctantly.

A vote is a vote.
1 up, 5y
Mind reading....the hallmark of logic
0 ups, 5y,
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Well. How about yourself?

Did you support him in 2012?

And now?
0 ups, 5y
I supported other candidates in the party. Unfortunately, Romney won the nomination and given the choice between him and Obama I chose the lesser of two evils.

That doesn't equate to me "supporting him". I viewed him as feckless and weak in 2012, same as I do now. He is only concerned with how he is viewed. He lacks conviction in his views.

So, no. I am not projecting.

Youre simply guilty of being exposed as moron using an ideological purity test to support your own anti-trump sentiment.
1 up, 5y,
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Liberals 2008: Mitt Romney is a racist sexist religious idiot.

Liberals Today: we just love Mitt

It's interesting how that works.
0 ups, 5y,
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And for conservatives it's just the opposite: Romney used to be seen as a more conservative alternative to "moderate" candidates like John McCain.

What changed?

Well: our politics shifted dramatically over the past decade. Namely, the GOP became consumed by Trump and his hate cult.

Romney himself hasn't changed much.

And he's still alive and well, presumably still wants to be President one day, and is available to chart a pathway back to reason for the GOP, if any will listen.

If the GOP wants to ditch Trump and run Romney against Joe Biden, I'd vote for him.
1 up, 5y,
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"Well: our politics shifted dramatically over the past decade. Namely, the GOP became consumed by Trump and his hate cult."

So this somehow happened over the last ten years (that's what a decade is) and it's Trump fault even though he barely entered politics in 2015?

"Romney himself hasn't changed much."

Thanks, for perfectly demonstrating the problem here. You admit Romney hasn't changed, even though liberals viewing him has gone from despising him and calling him racist to "he is so principled and logical".

It's clear your litmus test for who is logical and principled is whether or not that person dislikes Donald Trump. Of course it's lost upon you that such a litmus test, which is really a ideological purity test, is anything but logical or principled.
0 ups, 5y,
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Yeah, you can trace Trump's rise back to the right-wing Tea Party movement that hit the scene around the 2010 midterm elections.

Trump capitalized on a pre-existing trend of anti-establishment, anti-Washington, right-wing nonsense. He didn't invent it out of thin air, but he certainly plunged into it and later put himself in a position to steer it.

Trump started tweeting birther nonsense as early as 2011. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/09/donald-trumps-birther-tweets-in-order.html

By the time he announced his presidential run on June 16, 2015 by way of his bizarre golden escalator ride, Trump had established a certain political brand.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/13/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-speech-eyewitness-memories

And he'd already run or hinted at running for President several times before, by the way.

https://www.tvguide.com/news/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-timeline/
1 up, 5y
LOL....guy you need help. Trump had nothing to do with the Tea Party movement or vice-versa.

The anti-establishment was around far before the Tea Party arrived. It was called the 1980s and the election of Reagan.

"
And he'd already run or hinted at running for President several times before, by the way"

LOL...and when did he finally do it. So he wasnt in politics until 2015. Got it. Thanks for confirming MY CLAIM.
0 ups, 5y,
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Question. Did you vote for him when he ran for president?
Would you vote for him if he were running now?
0 ups, 5y,
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No and yes.
0 ups, 5y,
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So what changed?
1 up, 5y,
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In a word, Trump happened.

I wasn’t super invested in the choice between Romney or Obama in ‘12 so I voted Johnson.

But as I believe I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, with the benefit of hindsight I would have preferred to see a second Romney term winding down right now than what we actually got in reality.
1 up, 5y
Agreed. We haven’t really had a good choice of likely candidates the last couple elections.
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