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It's not "news" when it's used to distract you from the stories democrats don't want you to see. | WHILE FAKE NEWS HAD YOU WATCHING RIOTS; KILLARY LOST A HEARING AND HAS TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH, 30 #OBAMAGATE CULPRITS HAVE BEEN SUBPOENAED, AND ROSENSTEIN AND MCCABE ROLLED ON EACH OTHER SAYING THE OTHER ONE LIED UNDER OATH. | image tagged in memes,x x everywhere,fake news,crooked hillary,keep america great,obamagate | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
731 views 29 upvotes Made by achristos 4 years ago in politics
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7 ups, 4y,
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0 ups, 4y,
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You know that isn't the actual Mueller report but the Democratic Party's case for impeachment right?

I mean, I am all for talking about the Mueller report... But that ain't actually it.
0 ups, 4y,
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Oh, I posted the same link twice it appears.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

Thanks Google!
0 ups, 4y,
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There it is. So with that out of the way, here is a quote right of the summary in section 3 on page 5 titled "Russian contacts with the campaign":

"Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

Put simply, yes the Russians interfered but we couldn't find any proof that the Trump campaign cooperated with them in any way.

https://youtu.be/nc7e5LMgwao?t=100

So please, I would love to know how the Mueller report has "substance."
0 ups, 4y,
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It achieved its stated aim of investigating and documenting Russian interference in the 2016 election.

That's right: Contrary to popular belief, the Mueller investigation was not about investigating Trump or his campaign specifically. Mind blown yet?

Although in the process of investigating the Trump campaign's Russian contacts, it did unearth evidence of some of his associates' criminality, including election interference by other means: i.e. campaign finance violations.

Just porn star payoffs! All done by my personal lawyer's own volition! Nothing to see here!

And thanks to the probe, we know about these and other emails which show an awful lot of credulousness on DJT Jr.'s part and if nothing else, willingness to coordinate with a foreign adversary in the hopes of receiving election dirt on a political opponent.

Americans are on the whole are now a lot more aware of these issues, and thanks to the Mueller Report and the Ukrainegate impeachment, I doubt even Trump would be brazen enough to try something like it again.

Although new lows can always be set, and elections can be interfered with in 1000 different ways that do not involve foreign governments.
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It was not about Trump? Omega lol.

This is just one supercut of one anchor on a mainstream media network:

https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/1260317786204667904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1260317786204667904&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fshorenewsnetwork.com%2F2020%2F05%2F13%2Fcnns-stelter-trolled-for-years-of-russian-collusion%2F

How come he kept talking about trump collusion then?

Answer, because the Russian investigation was about Trump collusion and when americans realized they spent two years and 25 mil tax payer dollars, they pivoted. Challenge you to find an article from 2016 and 2017 that says that it isn't about find Trump collusion but about Russian interference. Go ahead, I am waiting.

Here is your substance that you are looking for:

https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1263901535462928386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1263901535462928386&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailywire.com%2Fnews%2Fkayleigh-mcenany-uses-slide-show-to-school-reporters-on-obama-admins-flynn-unmasking-scandal
0 ups, 4y,
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I decline to get too embroiled in the narrative and blame-shifting exercise of Obamagate.

If and when AG Barr decides to criminally prosecute anyone, if ever, "Obamagate" just goes in the pile of "lock her up," "Quid Pro Joe," etc. right-wing conspiracies that generated a lot of sound and fury but never led anywhere.
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In other words, no, you cannot find a single article that the Russia investigation wasn't about proving Trump interference pre 2018 and yes, your statement "Contrary to popular belief, the Mueller investigation was not about investigating Trump or his campaign specifically" was factually wrong.

Good pivot too, a classic move done by the leaders of you Democratic party.

You are free to go since you have no "substance" to offer.
0 ups, 4y,
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I don’t have to find an article, because I can just read the original order by Rosenstein that appointed Mueller as special counsel.

The Order plainly announces that the special counsel investigation is about Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Trump’s campaign’s contacts with Russians are listed as an *example* of such interference, but not until you get farther down the page.

Which is proper, because the Trump campaign actually did correspond with Russians, and this was known at the time the investigation was established.

Hope this helps.
0 ups, 4y
You know what is so disingenuous about you? You pretend to be an intellectual, ignore what is presented to you as a rebuttal and then just double down on your broken arguments. At least I had the courtesy to look at your links. Hell, it was clear from our discussion that you didn't even look at my links or, heaven forbid, your own.

I know what the report says and what the "stated aim" was. Yet what was leaked to the press was that there was collusion by Trump's campaign. All the MSM talked about was that TRUMP COLLUDED with the Russians. That's why you can't find an article and why you have to disingenuously double down on your argument despite it already having no substance itself.

I mean, the original premise that the Mueller report has more substance in relation to the criminal activity uncovered in Obamagate, was originally your reasoning for posting the Mueller report. Then when I blew your weak text out of the water, you pivoted to Mueller had substance because it found Russian interference? So then let me get this straight then since this is what you are arguing: Obamagate isn't so bad because the Russians are worse? Really? That is the best you can come up with?
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I don’t care what the MSM says, and I don’t care what the right-wing mediaverse says. Because I’m intelligent enough to read the original source documents. There was furious spin on both sides. I don’t care.

As for Obamagate, I’ve already stated my opinion that this exercise in “investigating the investigators” amounts to mere electioneering in the run-up to November 2020, and follows in the same three-plus year pattern of vague allegations of criminality against Democrats and Justice Department officials that never actually go anywhere. Here it is again.

Until we get the DOJ to issue some actual charges against anyone spelled out in a formal indictment, I sleep.

Even if that did happen, the timeline of this Obamagate activity suggests a strong likelihood of political bias motivated by the upcoming election.

If that feels condescending and dismissive, good.

Welcome to the world Democrats have been inhabiting for 2+ years whenever we try to explain this Russiagate and Ukrainegate stuff to conservatives.
0 ups, 4y
"Welcome to the world Democrats have been inhabiting for 2+ years whenever we try to explain this Russiagate and Ukrainegate stuff to conservatives."

See, you are doing it again. You are pretending that the last 2+ years was about "Russiagate" when it was about Trump collision. The reason you all inhabited this state of mind for two years is because you were actually wrong about it all and yelling in the streets that Trump colluded.

You pretend to not care about the MSM, but your playbook is literally one for one. They realized they were wrong, so the moved the goal posts. No, it was about proving Russian interference.

Let me ask you this, if Democrats were actually so worried about Russian interference that they found out... Why haven't they passed a single sentence of legislation to combat it? Why is the one bill that combats it have Republican authors? Go ahead, I'll wait for you to research what the MSM thinks.
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Gee, investigations on both failed miserably, yet investigations there were.

Sounds fair that the Kenyan gets investigated for having his government spying on a incoming president's team and bringing in a knowingly fake salacious dossier bought off FOREIGN AGENTS which then Comey lied about under oath that it wasn't the main intel that started the probe. Also no mention about how Hilldawg had a hand in purchasing it from Steele.
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Your attempt to describe Christopher Steele as a “foreign agent” collapses the distinction between these two things.

If you’re curious about the difference, look up the “Five Eyes” alliance. Or the history of the Cold War and Russia’s tragic rebirth thereafter as a revisionist nationalist dictatorship under Putin.

If that’s too much intellectual heavy-lifting for you, just watch a few James Bond films.
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Nice deflection.

Sooo, it's OKAY to buy a salacious phony dossier in order to interfere in a fair election AS LONG as it wasn't from a Russian. LMAO

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1409sXBleg
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Another statement Romney made that is looking much better in hindsight, and which helps explain his much-improved reputation among the reality-based community.

“China” might have been a more technically accurate answer, but Russia is close enough.

Obama was still focused on Al-Qaeda, as might be understandable for a President who had just cut off the head of that snake the year prior.

However, we have pretty much moved past the War on Terror and back to the era of great power conflicts, and Romney’s statement reflected that.

There is no way in hell Romney‘s (re-)election campaign would have ever been caught dead attempting to receive alleged election dirt from Russians.

And if you think the Steele Dossier was “phony,” you haven’t been paying much attention. It was the first draft of the entire edifice of Russian interference in the 2016 election that the Mueller report fleshed out.

Am I confident that the Mueller team tracked down every lead and we now have the complete picture of Russian interference?

Not at all. And I doubt we ever will.

The investigation probably could have gotten farther if Trump hadn’t leaned on it so heavily, but either way, it seems only natural that some interference will be lost to the sands of time.

Not least because the indicted Russians lie outside U.S. jurisdiction, protected by Putin and will never be called in for questioning or held to answer for their conduct.
0 ups, 4y
No, he wasn't. Pretty sure Al Queda has killed more Americans then Russia has. Now defend Al Queda.

Haha Comey himself said the dossier was unverified, AND lied that it wasn't the focal point of Mueller's investigation. Under oath.

After 2 years and 10,000 interviews and that wasn't enough? Please.

How did Trump 'lean on it'? He accepted his AG recusing himself, which would never happen under a dem. Remember the Clinton AG tarmac meeting?

The courts shat on his indictment of Russians. A giant nothing burger. Even Van Jones knew it.

Funny, during the impeachment, you admitted to me the Mueller investigation was bs. Guess you figured it wouldn't matter if Trump got removed. Now back to it.
4 ups, 4y
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