In Ukraine, they called them The Little Green Men.

Trump's Secret Army

No way to hold them accountable? Didn't a single cellphone expose Chauvin? Isn't the photo above photographic evidence if they do something illegal?

How in hell can you compare the Minneapolis PD to these storm troopers?

Yes the Minneapolis cops who dealt with Floyd were much more shady Turns out this is more fake news. It is clear what federal agency they work for.

He was wearing a uniform that had insignia, badges, and other identification.

That's why they 1) wear specific uniforms that have 2) required identifying information on them. So we can hold them accountable for their actions.

Oh so i guess everyone ever arrested by a plain-clothes police officer was immediately released because they weren't wearing a uniform then?

So, what happens after the plain-clothed cop arrests someone? They have to...what? Come on, work with me.

They have to show proper identification.

Even undercover cops, when using their police authority, must present identification.

There must be a way to identify them and hold them accountable.

So the people in the photo can't do that?

Right. If they're exercising their authority as cops, they have to clearly identify themselves. You can't just show up and claim to be the riot squad and start zip tieing people's hands.

So why can't they do that once start taking any police action against civilians? Just like you said above, even a plain-clothes officer can identify themselves once they take action, so the federal police in the photo above can do the same. You said after arrest, but I would say even earlier than that. So the point stands, those police are doing nothing wrong by standing there like that.

So, let's say that you, your spouse, and your grandma were walking down the street a block away from a protest.

You're not involved.

But these guys are there. They're blocking the street. they tell you that you can't go any further.

they refuse to identify themselves. They refuse to identify who they report to. They refuse to provide you with any information.

Then they suddenly declare that you're resisting their authority and proceed to beat your ass down.

Then they zip tie your spouse and yoru grandma. Toss them in a white van- again no markings. and drive off.

Was that an arrest or was that a kidnapping?

How do you handle the assault on you? You did nothing wrong. They physically assaulted you.

How do you find your spouse and grandmother? Were they arrested? Where were they taken to? You don't know.

Do you see the problem with secret police? Because that's what they've become.

These unmarked "cops" are all over DC now. It's not just these 8 dudes in the picture. They only say that they work for the "Department of Justice." But not which part. They don't answer who they report to.

It's only because of journalist taking pictures and putting them online have we recently discovered that they come from Texas, they're part of a special response team that doesn't normally work outside of the prisons. We know that they were told to remove all insignia or identification.

When AG Barr was confronted about it, he denied giving the order to remove any identification.

So who did? Why did they feel it necessary to hide their identities?

Just face it. Your meme sucks and you refuse to acknowledge the weakness in it. Those police are doing nothing wrong. No convoluted hypotheticals are going to change that.

I don't know why it amazes me every time, because it shouldn't, but it does.

Y'alls ability to parse something down to the smallest level in order to avoid changing anything about yourselves is amazing.

Your defense has boiled down to "weeelll, the ones in that specific picture right there aren't currently engaging in anything wrong so it's okay."

That's ridiculous.

Still in denial I see. Your meme is specifically about the police in that photo. That's the "level" you set yourself. My defense has nothing to do with any broader issues, because you FAILED to mention any. I only addressed your lack of knowledge about police and to what extent they are obligated to identify themselves.

Depending on your jurisdiction, which could be city, college, county, or state, officers may have no obligation to wear identification at all, let alone disclose it on request.

According to Slate, many states do not require police officers to wear a badge as a matter of law. Instead, the regulation of police officers and their badges are mostly left to the individual police departments.

Some states, however, have their own laws with regard to uniformed officers wearing badges. For example:

In Massachusetts, uniformed officers are required to wear a "badge, tag, or label" identifying their badge number -- but not their name.

In California, uniformed peace officers are required to wear a "badge, nameplate, or other device" that clearly displays the officer's ID number or name.

It should not be assumed, however, that every (or even most) states or municipalities have similar laws.

While some state laws and department policies may require a uniformed officer to display a badge or nameplate, they may not require the same of plainclothed officers. Undercover cops exist in just about every urban setting, and no, these officers do not have to tell you they are cops.

While the badge is a time-honored symbol of law enforcement, it may not always be a necessary part of every officer's uniform or dress.

If you could show me the place in the US legal system where it's okay to murder someone for a crime without a due process?

Also, murder isn't policing.