Not a whole lot of love for MLK these days from conservatives. That’s fine, we’ll take that ground.

Well, they used to be able co-opt him without being called out for revisionism. When they realized he can't help them anymore, they lost interest.

Re: revisionism, some still make a valiant effort. See jplowry777 above, lol.

I didn't say they stopped trying. I said it stopped being useful to them.

I haven't seen anyone doing this. I have however seen countless morons parsing MLK quotes to support the lie that would support riots, when he condemned them and his daughter recently gave an interview condemning riots.

Well I've noticed one in particular who is OD'ing on it like a crack w**re who just got out of jail.

Oh look, Mr Mischaracterization is doing it yet again on this thread.

He didn’t “support riots” and he didn’t support the conditions that caused them.

In the end, I think he comes down a bit harder on the conditions.

But don’t take my word for it: here are his words on the subject.

No parsing needed.

He condemned both EQUALLY and AS VIGOROUSLY. If you actually read him you would see that in plain english.

What is the practical guidance he gives for preventing riots?

Game. Set. Match

I liked these images myself.

But you didn’t answer the question: how do we stop riots before they start?

Are you more interested in solving problems or scoring points today?

The photo I showed you is how you stop riots...just like how MLK stopped riots...DONT F**KING RIOT.

Just remember, you and your party are defending the photo on the RIGHT, even though the photo on the LEFT was taken during a far worse time for black americans

Also re: MLK & riots, this is an interesting one.

The more you know

And just like that, we get more defense of riots

I’m not saying “not rioting is not viable.”

I’m saying that *telling* people not to riot (which is all you have brought to the table thus far) is not a viable solution.

What is? Well: check this quote again. Particularly what it says at the bottom about social justice and progress.

People will riot if their situations are desperate enough and they feel like no one is listening.

Because riots are the language of the unheard.

Telling people to sit down and shut up, basically, is an excellent way of adding fuel to the fire.

But it is not a solution.

KF: not rioting is not a real solution.

Clearly, you are saying it's not viable as it's not real.

And its not all I brought, I clearly advocated for peaceful demonstrations, demonstrations of love not anger.

For kicks I looked up Bernice King (“MLK’s daughter’s”) statement that you keep referencing.

Turns out we are talking about the same exact paragraph, and doing the exact same thing: Explaining where riots come from. Searching for solutions.

Throughout this conversation, only one of us has been actually going to the direct quotations of MLK and his daughter’s statements and reposting them here.

I have not misconstrued either of them.

You keep saying I “defend riots.” I encourage you to find where I said that.

KF: For these reasons, “just don’t riot” isn’t a real solution,

You're saying not rioting is not viable, therefore riots are.

This is a defense of riots by creating a false either/or paradigm.

Nonviolence is not weak or passive.
Nonviolence is active and aggressive.
It is strategic, with an ultimate goal.
It seeks true peace, which = justice.
Even if you disagree with it as a method for social change, I still hear you and love you. You are an answer and a solution.

Now f**k off

That completely debunks your "just don't riot isn't a real solution" narrative. Completely and utterly destroys is.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BerniceKing/status/1266610587515138049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-2776704093018317385.ampproject.net%2F2005220120000%2Fframe.html

Well then I’m glad MLK is still around to command and direct the movement for race equality in America with his singular moral voice.

Oh wait, he’s not.

And precisely because of this tragic history, BLM has deliberately chosen a decentralized structure. So that the movement can not be derailed by a single assassin’s bullet.

For these reasons, “just don’t riot” isn’t a real solution, but you can keep shouting it if it makes you feel like you’re making a difference.

As for us: We’re not defending the photo on the right, we’re trying to prevent it by insisting on real reform.

And re: the photo on the Left, I’m sure you could find heartwarming photos of blacks and whites interacting in the time of Jim Crow even. That doesn’t mean that’s a reflection of reality.

It just makes you a clever propagandist.

BAHAHAHAHAHA...

KF Two Post Ago: Conservatives don't listen to MLK anymore

KF Now: Well, MLK is no longer here...soooo

And if you believe MLK's movement was derailed because of his assasination, then you are bigger idiot than I thought. That moment solidified his message for eternity, it did nothing to erase it

Apparently did not, since here we are 50 years later rehashing many of the same issues. We haven’t achieved anywhere close to equal treatment or opportunity for blacks and there are still a bunch of racists walking about.

Many of us do try to carry on his legacy, but.

If MLK were still alive, it’s a safe bet that he’d be disgusted with how little progress we’ve made since his life was taken too early by a racist assassin.

It’s proven difficult or impossible to duplicate his particular gifts. He’s the kind of leader like Abraham Lincoln we’re fortunate enough to get once a century.

If he MLK were hear? Now in your interested again in MLK? You just said he was dead so his message is no longer being heard.

I know what he would say if he was here today, it's the same thing his daughter said. SHE CONDEMNED THE RIOTS, and yes said there is more to be done, but riots aren't going to get it done.

KF: For these reasons, “just don’t riot” isn’t a real solution.

Well, thats a defense FOR RIOTING

Actually, it is, just as it was, just as it will always be

We continue to talk past each other because, like pretty much every conservative I’ve talked with about this, you’re more interested in assigning blame than searching for solutions.

Color me surprised

No dumbyf**kyf**k, I'm talking directly to you, and under scrutiny of your claims they continue to change.

First you said conservatives no longer listen to MLK, then when challenged with MLKs consistent opposition to riots, you flipped to "well MLK is dead and not here so....". Then you flipped from saying you're against the riots to "there is no other choice". Now you're trying to say I am only interested in assigning blame, which is pure projection, as you have done nothing but try use the assignment blame for cops and "systemic oppression" to say "there is no choice but to riot."

You're an idiot, who when challenged, sees his logic and arguments fold like cheap lawn chairs.