China doesn't have clean hands. So? The virus is here now, and we have to deal with it.

Yeah, healthcare, low covid death ratio, starting to open back up, beautiful scenery, and a polite society, we're not tearing each other apart, and equal rights accross the table, yeah we suck. Green is not a good colour on you.

Healthcare is not making people wait for heart surgery and other life saving procedures.
Which is why Canadians come here and pay out of pocket.
Your country is a f_cking joke, sold out to the Chinese by Fidel's little bastard.

You are being lied to. That is not how it works here, sorry to burstyour propaganda bubble, we along withmost first world countries have wonderful healthcare, sorry you don't but that's a you problem.

Wow, try harder next time, you're not quite convincing enough.

Says the irrelevant spectator from another second rate country, shooting his mouth off about the USA because he has no life in bum f-ck Moose Jaw, Alberta.
Do they even have sidewalks, water & sewer service where you live? Probably not.

Oooh, one in 5 yrs. Bully for you. The kast deadliest one was 1989, Poli-technique. What's it bin 3 months for you f**ks?

Aren't you worried that if someone gets murdered with a huge illegal bowie knife, that Turdy will ban legal butterknives?

No. This ban won't last long. Much like the long gun registry we had, will be fought. We already had tough gun laws, this is just stupid.

Really? You mean repealed after JT leaves office? Hope so. Not like Canada is awash with shotgun violence.

It may even happen while he's in office. A bit squirelly if you ask me, it was underhanded. We already had tough gun laws. I've taken all the courses, used alot of weapons, but because of my criminal history, I have to go through alot of f**king hoops and $$$ to get a liscence. So if I were a disgruntled ex, by the time I got a weapon, I would be a disgruntled "patriot" crying foul on my civil liberties. Ha ha ha.

Can you get a handgun or would it be a red tape nightmare? I assume you have rifles. Or had.

Here, this should make it simple for you...

Pffft

You realize third parties and independent candidates exist, right?

I did “throw away” my vote in ‘12 and ‘16 to vote for Gary Johnson since I wasn’t thrilled by either candidate in those elections.

And Biden was one of my least favorite Democrats in the 2020 primaries so I am not thrilled this time either

But I will be setting aside my personal feelings this time

Then you have no basis to morally grandstand about orange man bad on this topic, because grope man is also accused of sexual assault. Whether or not either Trump or Biden is actually a sex offender is irrelevant to the left because they are the ones who are responsible for the whole “believe all women” nonsense. Meanwhile the right believes in innocent until proven guilty, which is obviously the superior justice system to operate on.

This is the standard I use.

1. "Believe all women!" isn't correct because some women lie. FBI statistics estimate 2-10% of accusations have no merit, though it's hard to assess a difficult subject like this. But it stands to reason most women are not psychopathic enough to bring public accusations that could ruin people's lives. Certainly most of the women I've met in my life do not fall into that category.

2. "Innocent until proven guilty!" also isn't a great standard, because it gives too much leeway to perpetrators. Example: Weinstein had 100+ public accusers as of the time he was finally convicted in criminal court a couple months ago, and even then only on a couple counts. That was about 2.5 years after the NYT and New Yorker stories first broke in Oct. 2017. In the meantime, it was abundantly clear in his case: where there's smoke, there's fire.

(Same for OJ Simpson. Most today believe he is guilty of murder, for good reason, despite the jury's verdict of acquittal in the criminal case. He was actually found responsible for the deaths later in a civil trial and had to pay money damages.)

(Same for Jeffrey Epstein. Most today consider him a serial pedophile based on publicly-available information, even though he killed himself in jail before he could be convicted. The intense national scrutiny of Epstein was sparked by a bombshell 2018 Miami Herald report revealing that reporters had identified about 80 women who say Epstein abused them from 2001 to 2006.)

So, I like Ronald Reagan's formulation: Trust, but verify. To the extent possible, given the information we have.

And in relation to Biden vs. Trump, I decline your invitation to consider 1 accusation as equivalent to 25.

Lol

You guys were the ones that pushed believe ALL women. That was the standard set when it was Republicans being accused. You still believe Ford. Which is sad. Regardless, you'll have to live with that hypocrisy, even if YOU claim not to be of the crowd. Which I doubt.

But to your question. Rule 7 is definitely not something you adhere to.

Which is precisely why this is the correct approach. Remember this one?

So let’s ask: What standard exists on the GOP side? A standard of total amorality and dismissal of claims (Kavanaugh, Trump). The fact Roy Moore lost his election isn’t persuasive AT ALL as the GOP stuck by him as a candidate and it was left up to the voters of Alabama to reject him.

Meanwhile, Democrats defenestrated Al Franken over a whole lot of nothing, and Weinstein (a Democratic donor) went down exposed by liberal media outlets like the NYT and New Yorker.

So yes, Democrats have been consistently operating at a higher standard on #MeToo issues.

As for 2020; I can’t speak for everyone, but I feel Democrats are going to respectfully decline the invitation to shoot themselves in the foot over one Biden claim vs. 25 Trump claims. Although there is actually semi-serious talk of replacing Biden as a candidate (despite the dubiousness of Tara Reade’s history) that would never take place on the GOP side for Trump despite the many many more accusations.

So whether that standard is to “believe all women,” withhold all judgment pending a jury verdict that will never arrive, or else automatically dismiss and ignore every new accusation because “women are gold-digging w**res who let you do it,” just be consistent in their application of it to both candidates when you make your decision in 2020.

It doesn’t really seem like you’re doing that, though. Seems like you’re building up Tara Reade and Tara Reade only as a truth-teller when there is no real reason to trust her over Trump’s 25 accusers.

Hahaha. The ONLY reason Franken was kicked out was because they were using that as leverage to browbeat the Republicans into tossing Moore.

From what I can tell, it’s simply Democrat accusation good, Republican accusation bad.

You’ll probably say something like “no, I look at the evidence!” but there is oodles of evidence against Trump that you downplay or ignore.

And as I suggested here and elsewhere, waiting until a jury decides for you (“innocent until proven guilty!”) is also kind of a cop-out and also offers no reason to trust Tara Reade over a Trump’s accusers at this point.

Every standard has flaws. So pick whatever standard you want, just have justification for it and be consistent in applying it to both Trump and Biden.

My own standard isn’t “believe all women” or “innocent until proven guilty” but more like Reagan’s famous formulation: “trust, but verify.”

I never said to believe her. But people like you have been howling about rape accusations against republicans yet don't even want to give this one, who talked about it in the 90's, a chance to speak. Like with the Clinton accuser, so give me a break.

So howling about the speck in Democrats’ eyes while ignoring the plank in your own

Okay

That’s Alinskyite stuff though

Nice try.

Now projecting about Alinsky, huh? :^)

Those are two of the biggest scumbags that ruined politics for the left. For alot of them.

Stewart reads news story
Makes stupid ass face
Repeat ad nauseam.

Striking how he loves it when they can't speak back. Like the account wasn't deleted by mods but from the sheer force of his cogent arguments. It's embarrassing at this point.

Wasn't that was DemsMustDie with his account of the day?

"And for my next trick, I'm gonna make daylight return after the night is over"

- KyLie

Yep.

Think Kylie thinks he self deletes.

Or rather that the site deletes him is what he thinks?

As he said below, he doesn't know. If he considers that, it's fairly recent I'd bet. Saw him saying something about 'the guy who self deletes every day' in the last 2 days.

For a newb so up on things beyond those who've been here for years, seems he hasn't been paying attention to this one.
Unlike drama in one certain person's corner (which has been going on for 2 yrs), this memer is all over politics.

It does give me joy when ImgFlip steps up and enforces anti-harassment provisions, which I assume is what’s going on here, but I don’t know for a fact.

Maybe he self-deletes. It’s all kind of mysterious. Because what this guy says is not really any worse (in my book) than what a whole lot of other memers say when they talk politics.

He is a decent writer, but for some reason cannot help mixing his (somewhat) cogent political points with heaping piles of insults and invective.

I don’t understand why he doesn’t just make his points respectfully while dropping the foul language.

But I’d rather talk with a decent conservative whatever their views.

Spot on until the very last part.

Do you have any idea what’s happening with this guy’s account?

He did something that got him banned, don't know what, but keeps coming back until the mods notice, then he gets tossed again.

Okay, makes sense.

Yeah honestly I would chastise but wouldn’t ban him for the conduct I’ve seen.

I wouldn’t put it beyond him to do something horrible. Must’ve been really bad I guess.

I feel the same. He's edgy, sure. But NBD. But maybe he doxxed someone. Or made threats. There must be a reason.

I think civility and respectful disagreement are key

You don’t

To each their own

Hmmm a lot more nonsense from you

I'll just do this again:

imgflip.com/m/Boobs
imgflip.com/m/booty
imgflip.com/m/MILF
imgflip.com/m/SexyGirls
imgflip.com/m/RedheadedGoddesses

Would you consider any of this to be "porn?"
Do you know the political leanings of some of the memers who post here?

What about this stream? imgflip.com/m/KylieMinogueSUCKS

Same questions: Porn? Hate? Something else? Political leanings of active memers here?

How do you think kids are likely to react if they stumble across this one?

1. "Is it civil and respectful to create an entire stream to attack other memers 1. behind their backs, and 2. where you control the narrative?"

Yes, as a matter of fact it is. Because imgflip.com/m/Cringe_Hard is a political stream for calling out hateful attitudes, bigotry, and other things that are ruining the country. In my opinion -- and it's my opinion, so it's my call. The stream is also for more light-hearted topics. And I cringe at myself from time to time.

And you actually do the same thing, only involving screenshots to make the call-out even more obvious. imgflip.com/m/Even_Cringier

2. "Is it civil and respectful to post memes that contain porn, on a website filled with kids and adolescents?"

I disagree, and ImgFlip and many of its user-base also do not agree with your interpretation as the links I posted above show. Try to convince them otherwise. Don't whine at me.

3. "Is it civil and respectful to lie about what people say, and misrepresent their arguments?"

That's not what I do. You're proving yourself guilty of the very thing you accuse me of. When we debate, I typically ask you clarifying questions, and when you inevitably refuse to answer, I draw my own inferences.

4. "Is it civil and respectful to delete other people's comments because they're critical of you, and hide behind your "rules" to justify it, while simultaneously violating those "rules" yourself?"

More twisting and manipulation from a person who willfully misunderstands stream terms, and more generally just doesn't have a problem with TOS-violating harassment and spam.

I permit plenty of your commentary on my own streams, especially the ones that aren't generally frequented by children.

As I said to you several times before: Got a problem with me, take it elsewhere.

Just like now! So you're improving.