Once a meathead always a meathead

Rob Reiner?? Never heard of her.

When someone Has Severe Trump Derangement Syndrome you can not comment anything logical since liberals depend n feelings not facts so, Leave the the Trump Derangement Syndrome Gnome and Go on!!

Trigger a liberal. Watch the 26 minute PLANDEMIC video.
https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=ytzsJYFv6HI

Always kvetching.

“It’s a two-way street,” Trump told Fox News on March 25th after Andrew Cuomo's scathing response to the federal governments handling of the situation. “They have to treat us well, also. They can’t say, ‘Oh, gee, we should get this, we should get that.’”

Trump is basically saying that if blue states want the supplies they need, they have to suck up to him. It should be noted, that despite Cuomo's criticism of the federal government, he directly refrained from putting the blame on Donald Trump himself. Almost like he compromised and stayed focused on the problem. The problem being they do not have the supplies they need.

Instead of trying to get them the supplies and working with Cuomo, Trump instead chose to blame Cuomo for refusing the supplies he needed for a pandemic in 2015.

It is easy to see how Reiner would emotionally respond to people in his hometown potentially dying due to the Donald Trump's negligence.

That is the most laughable response I have seen in a long time. Reiner is so deranged that he did not pay attention to Cuomo sending COVID patients to Nursing homes and Killing them. He also hollered for ventilators and wanted Trump To give all he had to him and give him beds. He gave Cuomo far more Ventilators than he needed and far more beds that he should have used for COVID patients instead of sending them to Nursing homes. Strange this is the most Pathetic and that is saying ALOT so I will Leave you a TDS Gnome since this can not be logically explained to you!! GOOD DAY!!

Ah thanks, I was rationalizing why Reiner was saying what he had said. I would not say I was making a slight against you, Trump, or even his supporters. I'm sorry you disagreed with my simple observation of a man whose simply voicing his opinion. And correcting an over-the-top response to what he actually said. Making no mention of racism or the origins of the virus.

Using the origins of covid-19 to deflect people's opinions of Trump's handling of the situation, whether premature or not, is not exactly intellectually honest.

P.S. Reiner has already called Trump supporters racist many times.

The point is Rob Reiner is being a partisan hack. He’s just a pathetic has-been who can’t get over the fact that even after becoming a successful director he is still more remembered for the Meathead character. It’s because he acts like a meathead in real life. And you are being a partisan hack and Meathead yourself by supporting what he says.

There’s no mention of race there because Meathead doesn’t blame the Chinese who are responsible, that would go against the Democrat‘s “white Americans are responsible for everything wrong with America” playbook.

I am not supporting what he said but rationalizing the opinion stated in the meme and the tweets that appear to be the source of the meme's mockery. Just because you understand someone, doesn't make you a partisan hack. I do not follow Rob Reiner on Twitter, nor anyone really, so if he said people were racist for supporting Trump or whatever, I'd like to see those tweets and I'll likely condemn them.

Again, blaming Trump for his response and China for the origins are two things. I don't understand why that is so hard for Trump supporters. No one said white Americans are responsible for everything except you.

As for Trump's travel ban, again... point to a post, a tweet, or a clip of someone calling him racist for the Chinese travel ban this year.

Donald Trump has displayed xenophobia and fear-mongering in the past so it isn't out of Biden's purview to call him out on that. Still, he isn't specifically calling him racist for the China travel ban. That would be wrong. Please, try again.

Perhaps you need to try again. Start with pointing out any real instance where Trump has used xenophobia and racism. And make it an unrefutable real instance, not an instance where some dumbass Democrat or media lapdogs called him a racist.

In other words...TRY AGAIN.

Oh, you already replied. I neatened it up because I have a feeling our conversation will be quite long indeed.

The Muslim ban has long been touted as racist and unnecessary. There was no crisis for banning Muslim countries to the US. And furthermore, he utterly failed to ban travel from countries with actual terrorist cells confirmed to be operating in those countries.

Meanwhile that ban list was developed under Obama. Guess he's a racist too.

If he enacted that ban at the time when there were no risk to US citizens, then yes. That would be accurate. It does not excuse Trump's reason for doing it as well just because Obama did it. Come on, Sydney. You know better than to try that on me.

No, the Obama administration came up with that list. Trump was actually going with the Obama 'policy' as it were. Now, I don't agree with the countries listed but to call the 'muslim ban' racist (especially when Islam isn't a race) when trump used Obama's list yet not accuse the same of Obama is hypocrisy, is it not?

Again, whether Obama did it or not does not clear Trump for the accusations of racism. I believe the logical reason why it is called racism to ban Muslims is that a large portion of them are non-white. As are the countries in the ban.

As far as I know, the primary difference between Obama and Trump's travel ban is motive. At the time, there were high tensions between the US and Syria; and there had been international terrorist attacks. By the time Trump initially enacted his travel ban, there were no such threats to justify it. Therefor the accusation that Trump's travel ban was motivated by racism, or xenophobia if you prefer the accurate vernacular, is justified.

I am not a fan of refugees either, especially Islamic refugees from America-hating countries. Look at what has happened in France, the UK, etc., since raking in refugees from Syria. Japan didn’t take in any and hasn’t had one terrorist attack.

As far as refugees from south of the border, you can’t just jump the fence. We have ports of entry to be processed.

You mean you're not a fan of Islamic terrorists and illegal immigrants, not refugees. There is a difference.

You think that in 2017, there weren't international terror plots going on around the world? Hell, it was worse than then it is today.

How many terror attacks do you need where it crosses the line to being an actual threat? Are you the one that decides that, all subjectively?

I do not recall saying that. I believe what I said was at the time Trump's travel ban was unwarranted. Sure, there were attacks that eventually justified such a ban as I believe he eventually did get the ban he wanted, if not a watered down version of it. I am not sure what prompted Trump to propose the bans but I can at least subjectively view people's conclusions as justified if there were no such provocations that have enacted previous administrations travel bans.

Well the left calls everyone who comes through the border refugees regardless of whether they snuck in illegally or not. They also seem to support terrorists as well.

Islam is a religion, Meathead. And there are terrorist cells working in those countries. Many from the same organizations that have attacked the US and US interests across the world.

I am aware that Islam is a religion. I believe the logical reason why it is called racism to ban Muslims is that a large portion of them are non-white. As are the countries in the ban. I personally would prefer the term xenophobic as Biden had used or generalizations but racist is shorter so I can see why people use that term. I'm sorry it triggers you, though.

Either case, you are correct. I was wrong. Six of those countries had confirmed terrorist cells. The countries that were banned were Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Sudan. The Islamic State had territory in Iraq, Syria, and Libya; Al-Qaeda in Yemen; and Al-Shabaab in Somalia.

However, at the time, there had been no attack on US soil by any of those countries yet Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia were not among those countries banned. So, terrorism was not the reason why Trump banned travel from those countries. Instead, the purpose was to limit the flux of refugees from those countries. It is this contention that allows people to easily argue that the ban is motivated by racism rather than terrorism. After all, Trump is not a fan of refugees.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rob-reiner-trump-allies-white-supremacists-pact-with-putin.amp

Rob Reiner
@robreiner
Every elected Republican knows that this President is guilty of countless Impeachable offenses. But they, along with many White Evangelicals & White Supremacists have made a pact with Putin. But unlike a pact with the Devil, this one can be unsigned.
8:43 AM · Nov 30, 2019

This seems to indicate that there is actually a difference between White Supremacists, White Evangelicals, and Republicans with the exception that they all seem to favor Donald Trump.
This appears to contradict your message that Rob Reiner thinks Trump Supporters are all racist/white supremacists.

After all, he says "They, along with" which clearly indicates that they are not all one thing. Are you saying that his generalization of Donald Trump's circle of influence is inaccurate? I'm afraid you're in for a rude awakening otherwise. Very few people who are not Republican and do not vote Republican find Trump very appealing after all. And he appears to be very popular among white supremacists and white evangelicals. I'm sorry if that is hard for you to comprehend.

And still, you are reaching. Reiner has not called Trump racist specifically for the China travel ban. I still will be happy to say he is wrong for that. Try again.

I don’t need your libtarded validation. In fact, I never asked for a comment from you in the first place. You talk about very few people other than Republicans finding Trump appealing, but with independents it is around half and half. In fact, there are actually more conservatives than liberals in this country to begin with. The fact that you find Sleepy Joe appealing already invalidates anything you say here. Not that anything you have said so far here is right. You are a meathead just like Reiner-dead from the neck up!

Just because I am not a fan of Donald Trump doesn't make me a liberal. But I can see why you would make that mistake. I do not find Biden appealing at all. I find limiting Trump (and Biden's) terms as President to one appealing. That is hardly the same thing as supporting Biden.

Again, if you have a post by Reiner or anyone else who calls Trump racist specifically for the China travel ban, and I'll happy say they're wrong. Because they are. It is standard procedure to limit the spread of a virus through quarantine which includes banning travel. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something.

"I've never seen them do that"

You forget about the democrat debates already? Every one raised their hand.

The only one who is wrong here is you. You are just another bleeding head leftist Democrat who can’t be reasoned with.

Also, try bleeding eye leftist next time. That would've gotten quite a chuckle, I would think.

I'm afraid, I can be as I'm not a leftist. I'm one of the few conservatives who believes Donald Trump to be an incompetent and irrational President. That said, I will give credit where credit is due. I do not believe, at this time, that Donald Trump's handling of this crisis is as bad as the media reports. Certainly, I am alarmed if he is favoring federal aid to states that are Red as opposed to Blue... but beyond the dirty laundry being aired between the two over their respective echo chambers, I cannot say for sure how accurate that assessment is.

After all, Trump himself said he was called racist for wanting to ban travel for China; yet I still have seen no evidence of anyone doing such. It is probably the one time Trump got it right, in my opinion.

I even believe people saying that he knew earlier and should've done something about it are still operating on hindsight information much as Donald Trump is himself doing with the CDC, WHO, and China. We've not seen a virus like this in over 100 years. The asymptomatic and long incubation of this virus is unprecedented so I can see why reports might've missed this or ignored conclusions that said otherwise. So, as I do not blame WHO for missing it, I cannot blame Trump for failing to act earlier.

I could blame Trump for trying to undersell how dangerous the virus is but why would I begrudge a man hope?

You are clearly a leftist.

No, he's not.

I don't blame Trump or democrats. No one really knew what this was about. This partisan bickering has made me sick. But screw the WHO and their corrupt master, China.

And btw, Biden called Trump racist and xenophobic after the China ban. Wonder when Ol' Joe is going to speak out against all those poor little muslim countries that ban jews from entering? Tomorrow, maybe?

I'm not disputing when Biden called Trump a racist but his reasons for it. Yes, people have called Trump a racist but they have not called him racist for the China travel ban. In context, he is campaigning for President in 2020, something Trump has been doing since 2016. Of course he'll point out his opponents shortcomings. I somehow doubt he would benefit from speaking out against foreign countries who are not running for President.

So Trump bans direct travel from China at the same time Democrats are assuring their followers there was nothing to worry about and Trump was being a racist. Then New Yorkers fly all over the country and Typhoid Mary the country. Things start ramping up and 'scientific studies' say millions are doomed. Panic sets in, and the governor of New York, who ignored advice to build up his stockpiles of medical equipment a few years ago starts blaming everyone else for his states problems. Trump unfortunately listens to the CDC (who completely bungled their big chance) and Dr. Fauci who has a history of poor decisions. Damned no matter what he does, Trump lashes out-delighting his fans and enraging his enemies.

For what it's worth, Trump has made his own mistakes as well. And he can say he was not responsible when it was practically his policy to undo most of the progress of the Obama administration which delighted his fans but now has bit him on the ass when he shut down the Pandemic program in 2018. Though, I agree. The partisan squabbling between Trump and Cuomo doesn't help our situation at all. Nor does looking for other reasons to shuffle blame away from Trump. Personally, I hope that the President doesn't allow petty partisan politics decide who does and doesn't need federal help.

The CDC is our best bet at fighting this virus since now we're too nationalist and/or paranoid to listen to foreign doctors... with the exception of French studies that have a confirmation bias toward the effectiveness HCQ for those infected with Covid-19, of course.

Do I blame Trump for Covid-19? No. In fact, I suspect this will be what makes or breaks his Presidency. I disagree with many ways he is handling the situation but, for most part, the results are speaking in his favor. And for the sake of the American people, I hope it stays that way.