Democratic Response To Emergency

You're right...they just burned and bombed them.

No, Democrats, KKK member Democrats, did do that, you silly twat wannabe.

Only what you have been told. Not what you have studied and learned.
And considering who you are and what you stand for, I am sure what you've been told is probably wrong.

Revelation 22:18-20 King James Version (KJV)
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Evangelicals are Protestants, and Protestants, starting with their founder Martin Luther, removed 7 books from the Bible, so no they don't completely understand the Bible. But it's nice that you listen to it anyway. Maybe you'll learn something.

"Just because I point out stuff in the Bible that Christians don't like to talk about doesn't mean I'm misunderstanding it."

True, a lot of Christians don't like to talk about certain parts because they are uneducated. But the thing is, I'm guessing these "parts we're afraid to talk about" are the Old Testament killings and slavery. But you have to remember that there isn't a single Christian in the Old Testament. That's only Jews. We're not Jewish and we don't follow the old Jewish laws.

I find it slightly amusing that you're arguing a Protestant idea with me when you don't believe either side anyway.

A lot of Protestants believe that, but all 7 books were around before Martin Luther. The list of 73 was approved by the pope in 382, and Martin Luther wasn't around until the 1500's. He removed the books he didn't like such as the book of James because it said things like "Faith without works is dead." And Martin Luther didn't like the idea of actually having to do work to be saved; he claimed you could be saved by faith alone, so he removed it. He also added the word "alone" to cement his idea of the Bible. The flaw with all Protestants is that they are based off of two ideas:

1) That the Bible is the ultimate authority
2) That anyone can interpret the Bible

See the problem? Catholics on the other hand hold Tradition and Scripture equally and don't allow just anyone to try to interpret the Bible. (Protestants let people do that and here they are today with over 40,000 denominations. That's not exactly unity.)

"While that is true, it's still part of the Bible, so it's still relevant."

Indeed it is in the Bible, but it's only there as history, not theology. Jewish history. So I mean yeah it's relevant for a full understanding of the entire Christian religion, but it doesn't contain Christian theology. One should understand the history of their religion, and I think we can both agree on that. The misconception people have is that "If it's in the Bible, Christians believe it." Well we believe it happened, but we don't follow old Jewish law like I said before.

Good for you!
No... apparently you use the Bible just as any other non-believer...to twist an argument or derail an argument.

And, no, I didn't know that you were an atheist. And what's more...I don't care. That's between you and God.

Tell you what, you and Bob can go not believe in God together.

Tell you what, Bob...you and Octavia can go off and not believe in God together.

You keep leaving out Democrat. And anyone who throws a noose around someone's neck to lynch or terrorize them and burns down churches aren't Christian.

Oh, shut up. What you know about the Bible wouldn't fill a thimble.

I do say so.

Now there's conservative Democrats? Democrats have always been the liberal party and they still are. How then can you say the KKK is conservative? And sure they call themselves Christian, and even if they were, they are only Protestant. Protestants are the liberal Christians anyway. Christianity started 2000 years ago, and Protestants broke off with their new, liberal ideas only 500 years ago.

"According to you. The Bible doesn't say that."

Except for that part where it says "Thou shalt not kill."

I know you're an atheist, but that's kind of a pretty well known verse

If by conservative you mean wanting to keep slavery, and by progressive you mean wanting to end slavery, then sure the Democrats were conservative in that sense, and the Republicans were founded to end slavery, which was a progressive idea at the time.

Ok so then the KKK is conservative in that they want black people to be second class citizens. You like to lump all types of conservatives together and say we're all the same thing. Modern conservative Republicans are nothing like today's "conservative" KKK Democrats, and they never were.

"What do you base that on?"

Sorry, I was unclear. I didn't mean politically liberal. I meant theologically liberal. And by that, I meant that Catholics (well the more traditional ones anyway) have kept 2000 year old traditions in their religion, while Protestants on the other hand, invented new, progressive religious ideas only 500 years ago. I agree that there are both politically conservative and politically liberal Protestants, and Catholics as well.

Liberal means open to drastic and rapid change. Completely re-interpreting the Bible and removing 7 books is pretty drastic. Agreed, times were different then, and he probably wasn't the type of liberal we have around today, but his ideas were very liberal in the context of the Church.

"The Bible doesn't say that if you kill someone you aren't a Christian."

The Bible is not a step by step handbook, and it doesn't use that kind of language. I think you understand this, but you're trying to get super technical. No, the Bible doesn't list off each possible sin and after each one explicitly say, "If you do this then you're not Christian," but I think we both know what it's saying.

It's sad how thoroughly brainwashed you are. Do you honestly think that people who burn crosses are Christian? The KKK was founded by Democrats as an anti-black and anti-Catholic organization

And Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden say they are Catholic while supporting abortion. You can't be two opposite things at the same time. Just because people call themselves something doesn't automatically make them that.

"Democrats today don't support the KKK."

Who do you think the modern KKK is made up of then...? Like it or not, it's still Democrats.

Yes that is part of why they were founded, but they were always against Catholics. They only espoused Protestantism.

And I saw your comment on that abortion meme, but since it was the end of the thread, I'll reply here:

No it's not wrong. It's pretty basic science. I learned when life begins at a liberal, public high school. Even they don't deny that life begins at conception.

And Jesus rising from the dead and ascending into heaven isn't "common sense science." Part of the definition of miracle is that it can't be explained by science. All scientific explanations must be disproven for a miracle to be accepted by the Church. Not that you care about any of this, but since you couldn't even explain why I was "wrong on so many levels" and had to change the subject completely to this, I figured I might as well take the opportunity to teach you a bit about it.

"Pro-choice and Catholic aren't opposites."

Yes they are. Abortion is explicitly condemned in the Bible where it says "Thou shalt not kill" and in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, CCC 2270-2275. You cannot be Catholic while at the same time openly denying the Catechism. Lots of people call themselves Pro-choice Catholics, but that's like calling myself a Catholic who doesn't believe in God or an atheist who does believe in God. Neither of those things are possible. But I think what you were getting at was another technical point: the opposite of Pro-choice is Pro-life. Well since the Catholic Church is very clearly and plainly Pro-life, they are indeed opposites.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_a7dQXilCo
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Personhood is just the leftist "philosophy" that allows them to dehumanize the unborn and feel better about what they're doing. I recall having this debate with you before where I clearly defined human and person and demonstrated how they were the same, and then I defined child and proved that unborn babies are children just by using the definitions of the words, and then you never responded.

"How do you know anything is a miracle?"

I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but like I said, when something happens that cannot be explained by science, that's a miracle. Are you asking how do we know any miracles have happened?

"And I doubt the church could disprove every single possible scientific explanation."

For what? For Jesus' resurrection and ascension? Are you claiming that Jesus rising from the dead and floating up into to clouds CAN be explained by science? At first, you seemed to think that I was claiming that Jesus' resurrection was "common sense science," which it is anything but. It cannot be explained by science. But now you're saying we couldn't have possibly disproven all the scientific explanations, so what are you saying? That Jesus followed all the laws of physics? As for other miracles, there are many, and I'd be happy to discuss any specific examples you may have.

Well there was that Pittsburgh synagogue that had to close in 2018 because of the mass shooting. And then there was the guy who shot up the mosques in New Zealand causing them to close. Oh wait, those were Trump supporters...

Enough to shoot up two mosques full of "Mooslems" and kill over 50 people inside. The guy's manifesto specifically praised Trump and his xenophobic racist rhetoric.

People who shoot up other people are not Left or Right, but have mental health issues. I guess for you, if someone quotes the Right he's a Trump supporter and that's why the President is bad, but what about the Leftists who have gone on a shooting rampage? Crickets? Or is the Left bad in that case. Your argument is weak here.

No it's not. Sorry. There have been some on the left but since Trump became POTUS, there has been an exponential increase in the number of mass shooters who specifically credit him as inspiration or who's values align with Trump's. You know this. Sure, they're a little short in the brains department, and yes, crazy too. But it's interesting how crazy people are drawn to Trump's rhetoric. Many are also white supremacists which again, is in perfect line with Trump's xenophobic platform not to mention he has actual white supremacists in his cabinet like Miller and Stone. You can deny it all you want but the truth is obvious.