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This stat puts it in perspective folks. But don’t tell anyone or the media will have us panicking over the flu!!

This stat puts it in perspective folks.  But don’t tell anyone or the media will have us panicking over the flu!! | 23,000 people in the USA have died from the seasonal flu this year while; only 22,000 people have died from the COVID-19 WORLDWIDE this year! | image tagged in startrek,maga,coronavirus,covid-19 | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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4 ups, 4y,
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The CDC does inflate flu death stats to create fear so people will get flu shots (even though they quietly admit they are useless medically, but great financially). But the point holds. Influenza virus causes the flu each flu season, and coronavirus causes colds each season. Both are by definition respiratory infections. It's not a pandemic folks. Happens every year. Meanwhile the banksters are hustling the system for trillions.
1 up, 4y,
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While I don't doubt someone is getting rich off this, I hear it is more contagious than the regular flu and roughly 10x as fatal.. Fake news?
1 up, 4y,
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Not necessarily fake news, but absolutely not scientifically or medically proven. A sample study of the "CV deaths" in Italy showed that 99% were people over 70 with 1-3 existing chronic illnesses. So getting a positive CV result from a test which is not even 100% accurate in cases like those proves nothing.
0 ups, 4y,
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Ok. So how does that sample study from Italy compare to the "regular flu"? I would tend to assume the majority of people who die from/with the regular flu are also elderly who have a list of pre-existing conditions...only difference is Coronavirus seems to be killing more of them than the regular flu.

And speaking of Italy yes, they're a complete mess... because their hospitals were overrun... because of the sky high volume of coronavirus patients (not regular flu patients.)

If the CDC inflates death stats I'm pretty sure China makes up for the difference.
0 ups, 4y,
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Actually Italy wasn't a complete mess. Only a few hospitals in the entire country were temporarily overrun because they were already operating near peak capacity. Same has been seen in the USA. Now we are hearing the ICUs are empty.

If you do a simple google search you will see some hospitals around the world are routinely flooded in flu season, because it's such a common illness and if people get a bad flu after a week they get worried and go to the doc or hospital.

We are getting the same stats from NYC now. Vast majority elderly with comorbidity. Less than 1% of cases are in those under 30.

"Coronavirus seems to killing off more of them than the regular flu" is based on what? What it "seems like" in the mass media hysteria? If every flu season those cases were hyped like the covid cases are now you wouldn't bat an eye at it. Data is coming in and it's looking like we will see the rate was 0.1% all along.
0 ups, 4y,
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Italy has had 2/3 as many covid-19 deaths as America with a population that is 1/5 the size. It's a mess.

Again.. if the vast majority of people dying from both Covid-19 and the regular flu are elderly people with comorbidities, I don't know what point you're trying to make in bringing that up? By every metric Covid-19 is worse than the flu. Even IF new data comes in making the death rate 0.1%, it seems highly unlikely that new data will come in showing that the incubation period is actually equal... Or that the RO (basic reproduction rate) is actually equal.

The number of global deaths from Covid-19 has increased 600% in 3 weeks (assuming the original meme here is accurate). The media has been wrong about many things but I don't think this being worse than the flu is one of 'em.
0 ups, 4y,
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They number are inflated. Medical authorities in Italy have said how people with comorbidities are being listed as covid deaths, even though median age is like 78 with 1-3 serious chronic illnesses. Those people were honestly is the extreme high risk category, common flu could have same result. No data shows covid is more dangerous than the common flu. Crapping your pants over overinflated figures isn't proof of anything.
0 ups, 4y,
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^From your article..

This would put it at ~0.25%... or ~2.5x as deadly as the flu. And the RO rate is still ~2x the flu... Based on this, it seems safe to assume we could see ~4x as many deaths as the flu.

If I knew you in person I'd be willing to bet $500 that in a year or so the data will still indicate that this is/was worse than the flu.
0 ups, 4y,
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You suck at math. I'd take that action.
https://youtu.be/k1trzdmwR2M
0 ups, 4y,
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How so? I didn't think going beyond the second decimal place was necessary but 0.2527559055% to be more exact.

Feel free to correct my math.
0 ups, 4y
Better leave the Doctor to do it.

Dr John Ioannadis announces the results of his serology study in CA. "Our Santa Clara seroprevalence study is now out. It shows 50-85 times underestimated number of infections, therefore 50-85 times overestimated infection rate fatality. True infection rate mortality is in the ballpark of seasonal influenza."
https://youtu.be/jGUgrEfSgaU

http://www.hideoutnow.com/2020/04/antibody-testing-reveals-coronavirus-50.html?m=1

Can I have that $500 in singles? Might come in handy when the strip clubs reopen.
0 ups, 4y
"You are braindead....roughly the same number of people are dying EVEN IF ONE IS MORE CONTAGIOUS!..How dumb can you get?"

Well.. looks like it's time to pull your head out of your ass and eat crow. I'll take that $500 in the form of silver dollars.
0 ups, 4y,
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As I already stated- even IF new data comes in taking the infection mortality rate down to 0.1% , the greater incubation time period and RO still make it worse than the flu.

Look around (assuming you're even American)... half the country is social distancing, wearing masks, washing their hands, using hand sanitizers, and practically locking themselves indoors, and Covid has still killed 40,000 people. We're less than 4 months in.
0 ups, 4y
Nope. You are wrong. Incubation period? Don't make me laugh you nobody. Anecdotal evidence like number of people wearing masks is meaningless to the argument and you know it.

Dr John Ioannadis announces the results of his serology study in CA. "Our Santa Clara seroprevalence study is now out. It shows 50-85 times underestimated number of infections, therefore 50-85 times overestimated infection rate fatality. True infection rate mortality is in the ballpark of seasonal influenza."
https://youtu.be/jGUgrEfSgaU

http://www.hideoutnow.com/2020/04/antibody-testing-reveals-coronavirus-50.html?m=1
0 ups, 4y,
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"True infection rate mortality is in the ballpark of seasonal influenza."

Ok so if the Covid infection mortality rate is equal to the flu and Covid is more contagious than the flu... then Covid will kill more people than the flu. I don't know how else to explain that to you. I'll come back later in the year and you can tell me how wrong I was.
0 ups, 4y
You are braindead. Absolutely does not follow. Covid has been spreading since last year. Flu and colds always take out the frail elderly first. Reread the quote imbecile.

Mortality rate of covid is ABOUT THE SAME as regular flu!

It means roughly the same number of people are dying EVEN IF ONE IS MORE CONTAGIOUS!

How dumb can you get?
0 ups, 4y,
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https://www.rt.com/news/486017-denmark-covid19-mortality-study/

1-3% morbidity being reduced to 0.16%
Expect more of this to come out as more is learned and the panic subsides.
0 ups, 4y
A month later, even the vaccine company known as the CDC has walked back their earlier pronouncement, now saying that the infamous sars-cov-2 virus is NOT easily transmittable on surfaces, and now claims the fatality rate has been 0.26 all along, and outside of nursing homes the odds are 0.0004.
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1 up, 4y
Congress gets some new stuff out of the relief package. So guess it has all been worth the panic?
https://i.imgflip.com/3udul2.jpg
0 ups, 4y
0 ups, 4y,
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And what about the millions of deactivated Chinese phones?

You morons still don't get that we're only at the beginning of an exponential curve....
3 ups, 4y
End of the curve. As spring heats up the seasonal CV will dissipate as it does every year. The attention seeking Harvard nerd who said 2 million will die has already walked back his BS model.
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