I don't think you can compare love and porn... I agree that a lot of porn is actually pretty bad and cheap and fake and even demeaning. But there definitely are exceptions of people having fun together and enjoying each other. And you don't need love to have a genuine and beautiful and fulfilling and real sexual experience - regardless of it being your job or not. And there are quite a few couples who actually do porn together. So, love and porn don't have to be mutually exclusive.

True, porn is fine in small doses. I've looked up porn myself occasionally and had a good wank. What I personally go for is moderation. Some porn occasionally is fine, but too much and you get addicted. As for casual sex or sex with hookers; yeah, it's a genuine sexual experience, but it just doesn't compare to the sex had between two consenting adults who are in love with each other.

That is different from person to person though. Some people need to be deeply in love to enjoy sex, some people need an emotional connection to enjoy sex but it can just as well be friendship or something less "serious", and some people don't need an emotional connection at all to enjoy sex. That doesn't mean one way is better than the other or that one way is wrong. People are just different. If for you sex in a committed relationship is the best sex possible that's great! You go and do that, preferably with someone who feels the same way. I haven't had any experience with sex workers so I can't judge that but I've had casual sex that was really great. Much better than the sex I now have with my wife. But that doesn't mean I don't love her or that the casual sex before was any less casual. It just means some people work better physically than others and some people work better emotionally than others and those groups might overlap but they are not necessarily the same.

EXACTLY!!! You see this is the problem , these guys want to make it out like anyone who doesn't want that perfect little fairy tale love they think everyone should have is somehow wrong and evil. As for me personally I've had plenty of experience with sex workers and porn and really the whole sex scene as a whole and I can tell you that these people are no different from anybody else.

In the end a lot of these performers see what they do as an art form and deeply deeply enjoy what they do not just for the money but because they have a love for sex and they have great chemistry with nearly everyone they are coupled with and want to show great content and make their own unique mark on the porn industry. I really don't have much to say on this as I'm not going to debate things I know are pretty much written in stone because like you see it's different from person to person and yeah there are plenty of people who deeply enjoy being in porn.

As for me , well to me my sexual and romantic feelings are pretty much interchangeable and I enjoy more open relationships because I think sex is a way to share love and it does not have to be romantic for me at all. Some of the best sex I've had in my entire life has been with " friends " and there are people who I love so much it hurts. I've seen the same things I feel in some of these porn performers and that's why i always defend them.

Not to mention how excessive porn use by young men gives them excessively high standards for women and vice versa. Plus, it's an addiction. All that yanking it releases dopamine which if you do it too much creates a dopamine dependency, just like with gambling or fast food.

"High" standards? I constantly have to look for at least half an hour to find people I don't find disgusting... And I don't know about you but I'd masturbate just as much without porn.

""High" standards? I constantly have to look for at least half an hour to find people I don't find disgusting..."

Or perhaps you need to lower your standards? Not every woman is going to be a Kate Upton or an Emma Stone. Most women can never hope to reach those levels of beauty and it's selfish of us men to expect them to try.

Not just looks tho, my quest for a BBW blonde golden shower gang bang fun with midgets vid has been to no avail.

- don't judge me.

Not to worry, I’m having some trouble finding that 72 virgins thing myself.

It ain't easy being a perv, or should say, a gent who respectfully appreciates a woman's carreer choice of getting exploited by creepy degenerates who have nothing but their best interests at heart for the couple of years they'd be usefull in 'tha biz' so that I can fantasize that's me doing what I will never have a chance to so therefore she must love doing it too which is why she's stoned all the time.

That's not what I mean though... I just apparently have different taste than most people.

Disgusting people find everyone else disgusting.

You can contact Olympian Product since he has a green MOD next to his name. Hes mod over Kylie. I think he made Wite Rabit a mod of this stream too.

Thanks following you too Hillary!

Guess you can't complain about bullying.

We're working on it, give us some time

I watch porn and believe me my standards are not high high high. I like chubby girls , funny looking girls , skinny skinny girls , thick petite , big tall you name it I like it.

"Dannii" did it hours ago.

I went to the approval queue as was going down the line quickly, then noticed they looked familiar which explains why so many (the caffeine didn't kick in yet). Then I freaked thinking maybe I inadvertantly deleted, unfeatured, or put them in limbo somewhere. Tested it on one of mine, but it was still on the stream.

Was gonna ask you but then my tablet started getting wiggy (hence my lack of activity today) over and over, so....

I did a Feedback report on Dannii as a Kyle alt out to harrass the stream, then saw Danii in action here and again it started freezing up yadda yadda so off I went to do other things like eat.

What a petty little turd. It's like DJFox on roids and slightly higher functioning.

he's* like DJFox...

I honestly think it's Animejapan. Unless Kylie snapped. I had a few interactions with Animejapan on different memes and it was always f**k you etc.

38. Every meme besides Kylies lol

Yeah, the green checkmark kills the flag.

It's definitely debating with a lawyer. Even after you debunked, or at least raised questions about his global warning spam memes, he still spams it. He won't budge on anything. And i'm not talking about an overall philosophy. Even small things.

I budge on shit all the time when presented actual evidence rather than invective and pseudo-logic

See: This bit of fake news that I posted in a meme one day and corrected the next after conservatives pointed out it was photoshopped

The problem is it so exceedingly rare

Actually, it's not but in that sense, you have an argument, and I was too harsh.

But, in a spirited debate, you don't give an inch with your combatant.

Well i'm glad i'm not blocked entirely. So much for free speech. Even enough you seem pretty fe to make false assumptions and judgments on anything I have to say.

This meme actually starts a discussion so it flew

Your screenname doesn’t do you any favors though — as I have explained every other time I’ve declined to feature something from you.

You’re starting behind the 8-ball posting as a gimmick version of a well-known ImgFlipper

So are you going to partake in this discussion or badger me more about my name and make false assumptions? Show me where I'm directly harassing Octavia Melody (a memer I actually admire)

It's like you're honoring someone you like. Kinda like a certain someone else, no?

Have you seen all the Raydog name variations? No one accused them of harassing him.

I pointed that out. Hypocrisy.

I can't respond to you in your other comment when it's red.

I haven’t encountered any Raydog variants. Or even Raydog really

I’m not sure if they’d be drawn to streams like mine

OM has been harassed plenty on this site so I wanna be careful

I've seen about 4 of them.

I get your intension, but maybe wait until the memer actually does something harassing? Just sayin'.

stRayDog was pretty cool.

haha, just made that up. If he ever leaves this site and there's a parade of alt mimics, you'll know which one is me.

Nice one!

The hero worship with him from noobs is hilarious.

Thanks.

It's truly sad.

You were here after the 123Guy fricassee so missed out on it, right?

I think so. I just remember I heard for someone that he was an epic troll. He go after ol' Ray?

Ok, he wasn't as major as they made him out to be, just an irritant that was actually rather low key but changed gears and suddenly started getting on everyone's nerves.

Most said he was trolling as a troll, but he seemed autistic like (legit) or maybe a foreigner becuase his wording was very precise and rather stilted. He seemed rather innocent in attitude. So maybe he was just a prick. But if a troll troll, he was high art.

Anyways, he started calling out memers on reposts, yet posted them himself, and went grammar nazi deluxe for even the littlest comments.

Then some MemeFarmer[something] fella claimed he had cancer, and 123Guy told him to go die of it. Then everyone went ballistic on his ass. That was the end of him, he got deleted if I got that right (ask Olympian or Fin or Dash, this was early 2017 and I was a newb then).

So then there was a parade on alt knockoffs. 124Guy, 123GuyAgain, 123Girl, 123Gay... and of course, the one that fooled them all, 1234Guy.
1234Guy got him down pat. 1234Guy had paid attention. 1234Guy was way fab. 1234Guy was, well, never mind,,,

Right, I remember talk about people using variants of his name.

2017 and before. Was it better than now? I know alot of really good memers left.

Oh, about better in days of yore..

I always say THESE are the good ol' days, because they will be one day to those who joined now.

They say it all went to hell summer 2016, when the Alt Rights swamped the site. They say it was always more right leaning, but you could have civilized discussions then. Spurs and MV have both have said about this.
I joined June 2016 but only made memes for a forum elsewhere. Then by accident mid Nov, I discovered the Front Page, and got in on it. So I missed out on how it was when things were calmer.

A lot of the more of the more mature folks (as opposed to the current flood of kids) where about back then. They had organized Page 9 parties on Wednesdays to upvote unknowns on p9 to the front so they can get noticed. They organized meme theme weeks (one or two memers would come up with an idea and it would get promoted in advance), posted memes and streams with tips and info about this site.
A major trolls clique collectively downvote memers who irritated into timers. You'd get on one day finding out you had to wait 15 minutes between replies. They were sick and annoying but it was kinda funny too.

In my original account I stuck to the sides (was still more active on that other site) and found my niche with some others that liked goofing around the same way.
haha, one time me and one of them (a1508a) did the whole Road Warrior in 8 memes!

- redid this because other names popped in my head after but I was busy loading up the washing machine n stuff so I decided to leave them all off...

imgflip.com/user/1234Guy

That meme was a running joke with them. One of the mimics (the original imitator maybe?) posted that meme, then the rest did.
There's stuff in the middle that veers off character because that stuff came much later.

But in the beginning and towards the bottom where the "Aliens" guy is the main 123Guy-ish stuff.

Are you autistic?

The irony.

Muh name!!!! It scares me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember VagabondDickSoufflé (complete with accent mark which I couldn't add when I created this account)? That was a tough 5 weeks for me,,,

No, memory fails.

Just kidding, I made that up.

I'm not going to comment here anymore because I got my point across but I like you KyleFan_89 You're alright.

The only point I saw was the top of your skull.

More like a pit if you ask me.