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Real trials aren't like TV show trials. Real impeachments aren't like Democrat show impeachments. Get the facts straight.

Real trials aren't like TV show trials. Real impeachments aren't like Democrat show impeachments. Get the facts straight. | Democrats be like a prosecutor saying, "You can't have a trial without witnesses and evidence!"; So the Republicans be like, " Oh my! Well then let us get the witnesses and documents for you then, said NO JURY EVER!" | image tagged in jury | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,483 views 14 upvotes Made by sevenheart 5 years ago in politics
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2 ups, 5y
2 ups, 5y,
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I'm really tired of ill informed people screaming there were no witnesses or documents so the Republicans are doing a cover up.
4 ups, 5y,
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I'm sure you meant to write:

"I'm really tired of ill informed people screaming "there were no witnesses or documents so the Republicans are doing a cover up.""

See, if you don't put it in quotes, it makes it sound like you're saying the Republicans are doing a cover up.

Which you're right. They're not. They're just denying the evidence was enough to convict a Republican President. (But would've convicted any other President that wasn't a Republican)
2 ups, 5y,
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Doc, why do you feel like a "genius" every time you puke out bigoted, hater "Democrat" lies? How about "self-correcting" your ignorant, prejudiced, uber-bigot statement like "any other President that wasn't a Republican" "Obama" committed actual crimes for which he should be "serving time", but Republicans were too gutless to stand up to the "lies" of racism that would have filled every "media outlet". Criminality knows no "color." Obama lied and more more soldiers died under his watch than under "Bush," Obama lied and innocent civilians died. Obama used the "IRS to fix his re-election by crushing Tea party and other lawful opposition groups. And how's old "Hunter" Biden doing? Hope he doesn't "run out of money" from the billions he laundered and extorted from the "American Taxpayers". Why are you such a smug, arrogant hater standing up for the filth that is the "Democrat PArty"?
2 ups, 5y,
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And as for your hater grammar lesson, "be like" colloquialisms precludes any need for precise punctuation. Although it does give petty haters a distraction to point to when the facts can't be refuted. Peace and Love, Billionaires Won't Buy Bernie!
0 ups, 5y
Oh, you thought I was correcting your grammar in the meme? Can you not read your own words? Your meme was fine. The comment was where you lost focus. Again, it sounded like YOU said the Republicans were doing a cover up. And again, they aren't. They are openly corrupt.
0 ups, 5y,
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I've made no mention of Obama or Democrats in my argument. Perhaps your hate of one party is blinding you to the lawlessness of the other, as you seem to claim I am doing.

Perhaps what you are suggesting is because Obama got away with his crimes that Trump should get away with his own? What a preposterous notion. If both are guilty, then they both deserve to be found guilty.
1 up, 5y,
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Golly Doc, farting around with your hater circular bigot racist logic/non-logic chaos theory brain depleted of living cells comments is like stepping in dog shit. Hunter BIden- not corrupt. Yup. Whatever your 3 firing synapses tell you. Maybe if your stangehead was out of your ass some oxygen would help you cope with the reality that Democrats are the most corrupt party in the whole wide history of the planet earth. Billionaires Laugh at Bernie! Biden 2020! Pocahauntus Warren- the only 1/1024ths honest Harvard Professor candidate of color left in the race. Glad I'm not a Democrat, too many hater self serving choices.
0 ups, 5y,
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Again, you continue to derail your own argument with claims I haven't made.

I am not a Democrat either. Nor do I strictly vote for them. I think anyone who only votes for a single party is a partisan hack. In fact, that is the very definition of what it means to be one. But just because you might be a partisan hack, doesn't mean people who disagree with you are a partisan hack of another flavor.

Perhaps if you put more thought into your politics as you do your insults, you might come away as a seemingly worthwhile individual to debate such adult topics like impeachment.
1 up, 5y,
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Yes. like Trump did absolutely nothing that other presidents have done as routine- but Orange Man Bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can't have a trial without witnesses and documents- but the Democrats had a trial with no witnesses or documents from the defense in this coup impeachment. None ZERO, NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF DUE PROCESS. But I digress. Stop wearing mental diapers if you want to be treated like an adult. I can play this game of mental gymnastics with you all day, I don't have to go back to work for another 8 days. You are ignorant. You think you are the only one capable of rational thought. You interject your smug ass "Which you're right. They're not. They're just denying the evidence was enough to convict a Republican President. (But would've convicted any other President that wasn't a Republican)" which would be incredibly thought provoking except for the fact that no president in the entire history of the whole like entire time of the US of A has ever been convicted. Uh, that would be Democrat or Republican.
Whoa, facts are hard aren't they? SO your little judgmental hate filled interjections aren't really witty or pithy or sly or even remotely valid. You are so ignorant you can't even see how irrelevant you are. But I'm sure your Mommy told you you we're special all these years, but she didn't mean special in terms of intellectual capacity. You are prejudiced, bigoted and ignorant (a perfect combination for idiocy) and you have the spineless audacity to think you are somehow enlightened more than anyone around you. Can I be honest. Your a hate filled idiot. And a hate filled bigot.
0 ups, 5y,
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I've shown you little to no hate-filled rants in my comments. I think, of the two of us, I've maintained my composure quite well. I've only insulted your notions, corrected your grammar, questioned your grammar for clarity, and all you've done is offer infantile responses. I have yet to insult you personally while you have felt the need to do so over a dozen times. I suspect one of us to be more insulted than the other, and it's not the one with the less insults in both quantity and quality.

I suggest if you have eight free days you do something else than fail being a troll to people on the internet. You could spend that time reading a book, visiting retired family members, or go on a personal vacation. It says a lot about you that you would rather spend those eight days insulting people.

None of your argument, and I use that word lightly, is refuted by what I've said. You're basically arguing at a wall of things I didn't say. My argument was not from a historical viewpoint, though it is interesting you take that position. I'm merely suggesting that if Trump were a Democrat, the Republican Senate would've absolutely convicted him. Again, my position is anti-partisan which I would assume you would agree partisanship is counterproductive to politics. Instead, you're hung up on the fact that I corrected your grammar. I would think an adult would admit to their mistakes and move on, but it seems that today it's all about being a character than actually having character.

So, go on then. I've responded. I've pulled the string on the doll that just insults me and spews out irrelevant facts that they think somehow hurt me. I at least look forward to what inventive insults you dish out at me. Because that appears that's all you can do since you're utterly incapable of putting together a coherent argument.
1 up, 5y,
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Other than Republicans are the only ones who do anything wrong, what is your argument? The whole point of the meme was to explain that in spite of how trials work on TV, the rule of law is simply that the prosecution has the burden of proof, not the jury, or the defendent, ie. the House of Representatives has the burden of proof, not the President or the Senate. For the Democrat House Managers- most being lawyers to accuse the Republicans in the Senate for covering up or obstructing the impeachment process by refusing to go outside the rule of law to provide more prosecution witnesses is against the law, or extralegal if you will.
The absurdity of prosecuting invented crimes with invented process and then accusing the defendant and the jury of not playing by the rules is unacceptable. If you were held to the same standard in a court of law you couldn't blame Republicans for you life sentence.
In partisan politics it really says something to cal everyone a partisan hack, unless they are a hack, like Schiff holding secret hearings where the opposition was censored regarding questioning, forbidden from producing defense witnesses, forbidding defense legal representation.
Carry on with your partisan commentary, looking only at the partisan viewpoints you hold dear. Ignore the point when I accurately say you described Bill Clinton to a tee. Ignore any point made that refutes your position. You go beyond oblivious squarely into the realm of ignorant. And it's pretty clear you are a petty hater cloaking yourself in self justified pseudo-reason.
1 up, 5y,
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PS thanks for all your mindless comments- I appreciate the extra points. And I know it;s a waste of time even trying to communicate with you , but others read these comments and glean the good out of them.
1 up, 5y
Sorry can't do anything but flag your last delusions. Get professional help. Billionaires Can't buy Bernie!
1 up, 5y
Uh partisanly, like the straight ticket Democrat votes to impeach on both articles and the partisanly manly Mittens Romney crossing the aisle to vote his religious little heart out against the guy who did what he was never able to do on one article. No that's Bi-polarsanism!
0 ups, 5y
I assure you, not many on this site see much good in comments. Very few people rarely read them and even fewer upvote and I'm not just speaking on my own behalf. I look about at the circle jerking and it's not but a few upvotes here or there. There are more upvotes to be had in making memes than these wasteful comments that spew nothing but personal insults. Those who do read and upvote, I would happily upvote them in return.
0 ups, 5y
"Fact- Ukraine got the money. Fact- Ukraine did not investigate BIden. Fact- Running for President does not exempt you from being investigated for criminally enriching your family using your position as Vice President in charge of relations with Ukraine and China. Fact- Trump released the transcript of the call that showed no criminality. Fact- The preseident of Ukraine says there was no pressure to investigate. Fact- There is no statute of Obstructing Congress- all politics involves obstructing the policies of the opposition party where they don't best serve the citizens. Fact-Dershowitz thoroughly explained the Constitution regarding the so called abuse of power- which if this standard were applied would mean every president past and future would be impeachable giving us over to a parliamentary form of government and the ensuing paralysis that form of govt brings. That's why we are a republic. Oh what the hell let's impeach him anyway. Which they did and failed.*"

There was potential criminality in the transcript. Enough to investigate and convict. Dershowitz's explanation was an exaggeration. The President had no jurisdiction to investigate his political opponent's son and used his office of power to influence a Presidential election. If he suspected there was corruption, he could've gone through the proper channels to investigate this. Instead, he acted on his own behalf for his own behalf. Whatever standard would've been applied wouldn't have impeached Presidents past, and if anything the dangerous standard of allowing Presidents to use foreign governments to interfere in our election is more dangerous than any other standard posed by convicting Donald Trump. Other than that, none of your facts refute my claim that Republicans voted partisanly in this impeachment process.
0 ups, 5y,
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I commend you for attempting to hold back at your petty insults. All it took was for me to ask you to do it more.

I already told you my argument. Twice. If Donald Trump was not a Republican, the Republican Senate would've convicted him based on the evidence provided by the House of Representatives alone. I am accusing the Republicans of partisanship. Only caring about how they'll look in November if they don't stand behind Trump while he is accused of abusing his power to goad a foreign government to interfere in a Presidential Election. If the Democrats are guilty of anything, it's that they thought there were still enough Republicans in the Senate to have the integrity to vote to convict. A thoroughly stupid idea, I agree. Were the Democrats Partisan in their actions? Perhaps. But I do not think that was their intention.

I'm not saying "Only a Democratic President could be impeached and convicted" I'm saying that THIS Senate, not all Senates, just this one would've convicted anyone who wasn't a Republican under the exact same evidence presented.
1 up, 5y
Fact- Ukraine got the money. Fact- Ukraine did not investigate BIden. Fact- Running for President does not exempt you from being investigated for criminally enriching your family using your position as Vice President in charge of relations with Ukraine and China. Fact- Trump released the transcript of the call that showed no criminality. Fact- The preseident of Ukraine says there was no pressure to investigate. Fact- There is no statute of Obstructing Congress- all politics involves obstructing the policies of the opposition party where they don't best serve the citizens. Fact-Dershowitz thoroughly explained the Constitution regarding the so called abuse of power- which if this standard were applied would mean every president past and future would be impeachable giving us over to a parliamentary form of government and the ensuing paralysis that form of govt brings. That's why we are a republic. Oh what the hell let's impeach him anyway. Which they did and failed.*
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Democrats be like a prosecutor saying, "You can't have a trial without witnesses and evidence!"; So the Republicans be like, " Oh my! Well then let us get the witnesses and documents for you then, said NO JURY EVER!"