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Don't need no stinkin badges | MOSCOW MITCH'S IMPEACHMENT TRIAL OPENING STATEMENT. "EVIDENCE?  WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' EVIDENCE." | image tagged in don't need no stinkin badges | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 6y,
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Why start now?

The Dimocrats laid down the guidelines for this farce when they denied Trump due process in drawing up the articles of impeachment.
1 up, 6y,
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"Due Process," is not a one size fits all set of rules about all judicial and non-judicial processes. The most obvious is the difference in rules between a Grand Jury and a Court Trial. What the rules tell us is that if the same procedure is used for all people being investigated by a Grand Jury, they have received "Due Process." But, they did not have the right to cross examine witnesses, or introduce witnesses and evidence. The Constitution does not lay out a set of rules for how the House of Representatives will conduct their "investigations." If the House chooses to follow procedures similar to a Grand Jury, and does so fairly, there is no evidence to support the accusation that "due process," was not followed. The House conducted itself in concert with the processes, authority and rules laid out in the Constitution. That is the same Constitution that prohibited the Special Counsel from bringing charges against the President in a Grand Jury hearing. The President did not surrender his special privileges under the Constitution, in that case. The House should not be expected to surrender their right to conduct Impeachment, as they determined to be factual and fair. His lawyers know the different procedures do not follow the exact same "due process," and are perfectly appropriate and legal. They just hope you don't know the difference or will ignore it when it is laid out for you.
2 ups, 6y
Where in the constitution does it talk about closed basement hearings?
1 up, 6y,
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So your contention is that impeachment of a US president parallels a regular judicial process in this country because the House impeachment process parallels the grand jury process?

If so, aren't grand jurors supposed to be impartial going into the process? Isn't there an impartial judge present while evidence is presented to the grand jury by the prosecution? Doesn't a District Attorney have to agree that there is sufficient substance to the charges before a grand jury is convened? (unless your contention is that Pelosi, Schiff, or Nadler are somehow the equivalent of a DA, which would be patently aburd, imo)

These are all fundamental fair practices that Trump was denied by the House. Or do you think he was fairly afforded these by the House?

Also, your argument is that the Constitution does not lay out a set of rules for how the House conducts the impeachment process, which is correct. So based on that, it was okay to ignore what the minority party wanted in the house, when they claimed the process was unfair, or lacked due process. However, once the process goes to the Senate, somehow, magically, the minority gets to dictate what is fair, or considered due process to the majority? Why the change in approach?

You don't see the glaring lack of consistency in these two positions?
0 ups, 6y
No. Grand Juries are not meant to be impartial. The prosecutors are supposed to take strong positions, advocating for the indictment of the suspect. If they did not have evidence suggesting a crime was committed, a Grand Jury would not convene to hear it. The Jurors in a Grand Jury are not advocates, one way or the other. This is not a process designed to find guilt or innocence, so the due process is different. If enough evidence is presented for the Grand Jury to think charges should be brought, the suspect has their day in court, with legal counsel and all the rights and privileges the Constitution provides.

The minority party got what it wanted in the House. They got to disrupt, distract and act like out of control Frat House Clowns. They knew they were out of order most of the time, because they meant to be. They knew that the evidence and facts lined up squarely against their position, so they pounded on the table in the most childish manner possible.

All I see is that you are a partisan who does not care about the facts of the case.
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