Uhm...why does that make since?

EEEEM, no he does not.

Actually, that verse means people refuse to accept the truth that God wants them to listen, so they look up to someone else that they think is making sense. Christians looked up to false prophets who sugarcoat the Bible, not someone who's telling it as it is.

Meanwhile, non-believers denounced God and the Bible but they also look for alternatives that supposedly solves our problems, but didn't. It just brings more problems instead of solving them

No, God allows them to be deluded with their false belief. He gave them a choice whether or not they accept Him and His truth. If you tried to tell them the truth that no one wants to hear, I'm 100 percent certain that you didn't force them but you let them be. God is like that; He let people alone so they can find someone they put their trust after they reject Him. And dont worry, even Christians does the same thing.

A believer should ask God what they can do for Him, not what He can do for them. We cant stop world hunger nor discrimination nor warfare and violence. But we just help someone or anyone who is in dire need of assitance it makes a big difference for one person.

My question for you is this: why hold a grudge against a deity or deities that you believe doesnt exist?

But, my dear aren't you doing the same thing? You constantly push your unbelief unto people's throats in such a way the religious folks does with their beliefs.
It's almost like you're turning into someone you hate to become.

Just a heads up; you're trying to explain the Bible to a repulsive degenerate who lavished praise on cross-dressing pedophiles while implying Jesus was a pedo too. Octavia makes Satan look like a boy scout.

Context please: I have just read most of 2 Thessalonians and see that the "dillusion" is for a different cause...
'This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those ON THEIR WAY TO DESTRUCTION, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. SO God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth.'

Now God does not just randomly deceive people, he is taking "the goats" (the one's neglecting truth) out of the flock of "sheep" (the ones loving the truth) and will cause mass confusion. That is a much different outcome, compared to your origional claims.

Yes, but no: He does not deceive (meaning usually, currently) people, he will CONFUSE The Goats. Mind you, 2020 is a very dark age, but there is a darker time even still. Even then, we must wait for the Anti-Christ to come (to surely know when it is near the end of time).

If you are talking about Pharaoh in late Genesis/early Exodus, then God hardened his heart so that the Israelites and Egyptians could see his power and remember it (so they would follow his commandments).

If God deceived people, he would be no better than Satan (God can participate in no evil).

1. You have been greatly deceived by the devil.
2. God saw (and was grieved) how evil the world had become, so he destroyed all unrighteous people.
3. God gave commandments to his Israelites (just coming out of captivity) so they would follow them and not stray from a predesignated path
4. You need to rethink the Bible: The culmination of prophets, apostles, and God's commandments and letters to churches.
5. Paul was a "turn or burn" type of writer (if you don't turn to Jesus, you will burn in hell). He was a master of holy anger. At times he seems to be a compulsory writer. Not all the things he writes are in uniform with God's ideas. Do remember, this era is totally different (and seems more extreme) than now. You need to read the Bible and get some context.
I'm praying for you.

1. The Age of Accountability. Yes, not all the people were guilty of sin (the children who had not yet had an opportunity to do so) But their parents would have lead them into a sinful life, the act of which is addressed in the Bible (Matthew 18:6)

2. By what do you standard do you judge what is "good"? How can you, an imperfect person, make a perfect standard for what is good? Those laws that God gave to Moses were "good" because they were created by the very person that set down the standard of right and wrong. So yes, I believe they were good laws. Should we follow them? That's the point. We aren't able to follow all the laws. We can't. God sent Jesus to die for our sins so that, if we should accept Him, the price that Jesus paid on the cross would be sufficient for the sins we have committed against God.

3. I don't know. Forgive me, but from my perspective, it is hard to try and suggest a way in which to read to The Bible but from a place of a desire to understand. So far, what I've been able to tell from you is that you have only read The Bible so that you can disprove it. You don't actually give a rip about anything that it says. And if you continue to read it like that, you will only ever have the understanding that you have at present.

4. Haha! That was funny! Not really. It was disrespectful. Even if you don't agree with me you shouldn't be petty like that. Think, you wouldn't make fun of a Muslim praying to Allah, would you? That would be culturally insensitive. And if you WOULD do that, then you are only confirming my suspicion that you are someone who enjoys putting people who believe in something you don't down.

Think about it this way, Adam was the team captain for the human race. When he sinned it was a penalty against the whole human race. And, just like in soccer, if the other team scores, it doesnt just affect the goalie, or the team captain, it affects the whole team. Sin scored against Adam, and his team. So yes, even though babies have technially not yet sinned, Adams sin has infected all of us.

Where does it say that?
It doesn’t. That’s the name Theologians have given to the concepts discussed in Deuteronomy 1:39, James 4:17, and Romans 14:12.

Yeah, that’s right. Forgive me, I assumed that you wouldn’t know that concept. As for killing righteous people in the flood? No, I don’t believe so. The Bible says that no others on the earth were as righteous as Noah and his family. I cannot give an account if there was in fact a righteous person that God decided to kill.

Again, this is God’s actions I’m telling you about here. 1, this won’t bring any fruit because you don’t take God as an authority, therefor your can invalidate any of His actions simply on the premise that you don’t agree with them.

Ah, but the problem with making your moral standard whatever’s good for society is that society changes. There is not one society even. There are multiple. Sure, you could say that there is a general world society, but even then societies standard vary country to county. And what about Hitler’s society? What HE thought was good for society and the individual is now thought to be one of the most heinous ideals in human history. So you cannot validate your morality based on society. Society is always changing, and by your logic, your morals along with it. That is no way to make decisions of any kind.

For me, yes. For you, no. You do not accept the authority of God or the Bible. So, look at it like this: what is the logic in some of God’s laws? The Ten Commandments for instance. It seems awfully practical and logical to me not to kill people (Do not commit murder) And it seems that there is also logic in not sleeping with another man’s wife (Do not commit adultery). There are also logical explanations for the other commandments as well. I unfortunately don’t have the time to explain all of them right now.

Which laws say to keep slaves, kill gays, witches, and rebellious children? Those laws were for the Jews. I am not Jewish nor do I practice Judaism.

Hey, I didn’t say it, God did. Tell that to God. Bet you bottom dollar He’s listening.

There are some things I cannot explain to people who do not have faith. That is one of them.

Ok then...I wouldn’t advise doing that though.

Yeah, you really do need to read the Bible. Clearly you are misunderstanding Paul. Where exactly does he turn from Gods teaching? Also, why are you so agressive against the bible? For your information, the bible is the most trustworthy book according to science.

Dear Octavia_Melody, when I get into religious arguments online (not as rare as you might think) they always ask me for evidence outside the Bible. I can give you no physical evidence other than the Bible because heaven and hell are not in this 3 dimensional universe, they are spiritual. Plus, a lot of what I say comes from the Bible, and if it weren't for the Bible I would agree with almost all of your arguments. I know you will find some scientific argument or follow up question contradict to what I am about to say, but, the night my great grandfather died (a christian), he said to my great grandma, "Do you hear that music? Its beautiful." A few minutes later, he passed away. To be honest with you, even as a christian I have doubts about this topic myself, but I find that there has to be more to this world than just what we can sense. I dont mean to offend you as a person, and I want to understand your side, just as much as I want you to understand mine. Despite your arguments, I will stand strong in my faith. Because thats all that it is, it is simply faith. A hope that I am right, and that I will go to heaven when I die. No hostile vibes btw. Dont want to seem agressive.

Listen, I know we disagree on this. But, unless God works in your life, you will go to hell. Say whatever you want, but I know there is a God, and there is a judgement day. Now to sound preachy, but if you dont repent you will go to hell. Its as simple as that. Also, I made a much longer reply string somwhere down here. Please read it and tell me what you think. I know you dont give a frick, but I'll be praying for you.

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Think of it this way, if you are writing a story, and you kill off the main character, are you evil? No, that would be ridiculous, after all its just a story. God created this story, so, why would you call him evil if he kills the bad guys, a.k.a. sinners. The truth is we are all born sinners, and no matter what we say, its still true. So, just as you aren't evil for killing the main character, God isnt evil for killing sinners. To help you understand this better I would like to draw attention to the fact that God is just. He is perfectly fair. 100%. Since God is just, those who disobey will be punished fairly, the bible says the wages of sin are death (Romans 6:23). So, put 2 and 2 together, and, because of our sin, we all have to die. Now, I said God is just, but that doesnt make him evil. In fact, the other part

(Sorry, didnt mean to end it there) In fact, the other part if that verse, (Romans 6:23) says that the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. You see God is just, but he is also loving. So, he sent his Son to come down to earth as a man. He died for us and rose from the dead after three days. His blood, (spiritually) covers our sins, and makes us perfect in Gods sight. So, the last thing I want to say is that God is just, but he is also loving, he gave us a second chance through Jesus. And the cool thing is, we dont have to give anything back to God, it was a gift. (Ephesians 2:8) All we have to do is trust that he will keep his promises of eternal life to us. It really is that simple. If you have more questions, I reccomend a book called The Reason For God. It is by a guy named Tim Keller, it answers a lot of hard questions about God that skeptics have. You can find a free pdf online. Also, where does the bible say we should kill disobedient children?