Go for it Donald

Because our base enjoys losing over & over

You’re right about one thing: If impeachment fails and he wins re-election, then Don-Don is going to have a blank check to do whatever the hell he wants with impunity.

Just like every other president who wins a 2nd term

Trump isn’t like every other president. His disregard for norms is shocking if you really sat down and took the time to understand them.

The Articles of Impeachment are concise at 9 pages long. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6572308/Articles-of-Impeachment.pdf

The full House report is 300 pages. https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6566087-Full-House-Impeachment-Report

If we continue to make excuses and whatabout his behavior, and return him to the WH in 2020, we’re only going to get more of it.

More economic growth, enforcement of immigration laws, Supreme Court justices who interpret laws instead of make new laws? I’m all for it.
Maybe the “norms” are the problem.

BTW. We all know the impeachment fiasco is just the Democrats “jumping the shark” in their desperate attempt to overturn the 2016 election results and prevent the likely 2020 results. Your 9 pages are missing key components of the alleged crime - Zelensky, the person on the other end of the phone call, has repeatedly said he did not feel pressured to investigate Biden or his son, no investigation has actually been done as a result of the phone call, and no proof that Trump’s request for an investigation was for his personal gain. It’s all speculation, hearsay and presumptions from 2nd parties.

The norms are what's wrong. The norms aren't law, and going against them isn't illegal. The only charges leveled against him will not even stand up in traffic court.

Abuse of Power... Is an opinion. Every president gets accused of this, but in the absence of a real crime that supports it, it means nothing except someone doesn't like the way he did something. Obama was accused of this as well, but there was no crime associated with it, so no one ever bothered pursuing a sham impeachment.

Obstruction of Congress...is also bogus. The Executive Branch isn't required to submit to the Legislative Branch. Right there in the Constitution in the separation of powers. However, if the third branch, The Judicial steps in and sides with Congress, then, and only then does the President have to comply. And Trump actually requested that the SCOTUS review this case. Congress is the ones who stopped the process... because it interfered with their timeline. Since Congress refused to allow this, they have only themselves to blame. Trump was actually trying to cooperate by following the Constitution...The Dems are the ones who can't seem to follow it.

Both charges will be dismissed, not due to partisanship, but because there is no legal backing for them. And these charges are the best the Dems could do, because none of the other charges had any basis in reality. Partisan hacks offering legal opinions don't make a case stronger. The absence of real evidence. That's what happened last week. The opinions fell short as well as the evidence. The fact that the Dems continued after this is why this is all a joke and a travesty for the nation.

They have taken something as important as impeachment and made it a partisan weapon to overthrow Presidents. By their standards any president can now be charged with crimes and impeached based solely on hearsay and partisan opinions...of the same hearsay.

1. “Abuse of Power is an opinion.” Yes. But It’s an opinion that Congress gets to have. This is provided for in our Constitution, which says that impeachment may be pursued for treason, bribery, and “other high crimes and misdemeanors.” The Founders debated heavily about that last clause, and ultimately kept it with the intent of making impeachment somewhat flexible. Most scholars agree that impeachment-worthy actions are defined by Congress. When it comes to the POTUS, we usually are not talking about routine crimes like murder that have a prior definition. The President by virtue of his office is capable of undertaking a wide range of possible troubling actions that may have never been seen before.

Your observation that Republicans didn’t impeach Obama is pretty empty, considering that Republicans did impeach the Democratic president before him for lying about a BJ. Perjury is a crime, yes, and he deserved to lose his law license. But it is not exactly a “high crime or misdemeanor” in the judgment of many. Congress was still allowed to proceed on that theory, because Congress gets to define it.

What Trump has been credibly accused of re: Ukraine is not as tabloid-ready as a BJ, but is far worse from a democratic standpoint: using the weight of the office of President to pressure a foreign power to open an investigation on the son of a political opponent. Because of the foreign policy angle, even if there wasn’t a literal burglary, this is worse than Watergate, IMO: and there is smoking-gun evidence in the Zelensky transcript that he sought to do this.

2. There are complex arguments about the scope of Executive privilege, but Congress certainly gets to have a say about presidents defying its subpoenas, up to and including impeachment. There is certainly nothing in the Constitution that says Congress need to wait for a review by SCOTUS before exercising its impeachment powers.

No, our constitutional norms are not the problem. Trump’s inability to comply with them is.

why not, the Dems hate him, make a game out of it

Like all the other claims of racism, misogyny, sexism, and Russia, Russia, Russia, impeachment now falls by the wayside as another joke.