Tom Steyer Grumpy Cat

Much better businessman, much worse at marketing and self-promotion.

Businesses should be run by businessmen, not showmen. They should have a name across their company's field of interest, but to make the CEO's name a household name is energy wasted on the irrelevant to almost all business models.

... because the very last thing a CEO should do is add value for the shareholders.

If your share value is based on something that is unnecessary to the business model, you have a huge problem.

... and there it is. The absolute proof you are an economic idiot.

Tesla without Elon Musk is - at best - a $5/share stock. Ask any Tesla shareholder if they want to get rid of Musk. Go on. We'll wait.

Now go ask any accountant worth a damn what "goodwill" is. Is even $1 of "goodwill" necessary to ANY business model? HELL. TO. THE. NO. Now ask that accountant if goodwill is a "problem".

Please... continue with your stupidity. It's so amusing to compare it to reality, then kick back and laugh at exactly how stupid it is.

Are you sitting down? This will shock you.

I believe Tesla's shares are artificially overvalued.

Breathe! Get into the recovery position! You'll get through this!

To the second part of your point, this will be much less controversial: you're pivoting the discussion to the image of the company, and I was talking about the cult of personality of the CEO. They're not in any way shape or form the same thing.

BULLSHIT

I didn't pivot jack shit. You said - and I quote verbatim - "If your share value is based on something that is unnecessary to the business model, you have a huge problem."

No mention of CEOs anywhere in there.

I pointed out a very successful company at this point - Tesla. It's share value is based almost entirely on that which is unnecessary. Only an idiot would maintain they have a "huge problem".

Whoops. My bad. There you are.

So secondly I brought up goodwill, which is a standard accounting practice which - again - HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING NECESSARY TO ANY BUSINESS MODEL. Almost every large corporation uses goodwill in their accounting. Are you seriously saying almost every large corporation has a "huge problem" because of it?

Yes... yes you are. That's what you said. Now that you have been called on it you are tripping on your own dick trying to get out of it. The only pivoting going on here is from your gyrations because I bitch-slapped some reality into you.

Just stop compounding your economic stupidity, admit how wrong you are, and how little you know.

There are lots of successful businessmen the general public hasn't heard of. Mostly because they aren't megalomaniacs like him.

Has he ever been bankrupt?