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Col. A. Vindman | THE PARTY WHO HAS TOLD YOU THEY SUPPORT OUR TROOPS FOR DECADES, IS OPENLY ATTACKING THIS COMBAT WOUNDED AND DECORATED HERO FOR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT TRUMP. | image tagged in politics | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Michael Flynn | WHAT MUELLER DID TO THIS WAR HERO IS A CRIME ! | image tagged in michael flynn | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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In an article written for "Lawfare," West Point grad Rick Houghton wrote, "Army General (retired) Martin Dempsey and Admiral (retired) Michael Mullen, both former Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, criticized both General Flynn and General Allen for participating in the (2016) conventions on the grounds that the speeches politicized the armed forces. Marine General (retired) John Kelly has urged retired service members to stay out of the “cesspool of domestic politics.” --end of article-- General Kelly has been criticized for acts that occurred outside of his active duty role, by his military superiors. No one has openly criticized him for doing his duty, as Republicans did to Col. Vindman in an open session of Congress. General Kelly came to the attention of the Special Counsel years after leaving active duty, for acts not directly related to his service to our country. He pled guilty to failure to register as an agent of a foreign government. Had he done this while on active duty, it would be the same illiegal activity that many of us revile Benedict Arnold for.
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I served in a support roll that was less than distinguished. And, I worked for the VA for about 30-years. In one of my roles there I came in contact with a number of phonies in the "stolen glory," mode. Some were brought to my attention in my role in the Office of Public Affairs. I always state my service number, when questioned, it begins with US-567-******. I substituted the asterisks for privacy reasons. But, I learned it on May 8, 1968. I remember it to this day. If someone cannot remember thier Service Number (pre 1969) I question their claims. Unless someone makes an unusual claim, like being homeless after losing a leg in combat and winning the Medal of Honor, I take them at their word. If FlatJim says he served, I take him at his word. But, his demonstrated cognitive dissonance, if it was present during his service, would have resulted in a discharge under Article 635-200, an illegal induction due to disability. The military does not have a place for people who are this loosely wound. And, they would not burden the VA with a patient who is unable to dicern the difference between real facts and insane conspiracies like the Birther one.
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My reference to a pre-1969 Service Number was a recognition that the SSN was used from mid-1968 forward. You passed my quiet test by knowing that. If you really believe as true, the information concerning the former president's birth certificate, you are probably delusional and I would recommend you seek help. If you just put this info out there to be provocative, it is losing its usefulness. Nobody cares about that crap anymore. I have not heard Lt. Col. Vindman say anything that would support your delusions about him, either. Remember, his testimony is not secret and prosecutors could bring charges if he was breaking the law. Unless the entire military is in on the conspiracy against Trump, that is.
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If you want to be taken seriously, then you would not continue using alarmist rhetoric in an otherwise constitutional procedure. Saying otherwise makes you look like a crying child.
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Thank you for your honesty. I'll cease impeding your personal howls of irrational anger toward invented insidious organizations at your leisure. But I will not entertain your fantasies as fact.
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No. Calling you crying children is an observation, avoidable by not using alarmist rhetoric. Stating conspiracy theories as fact is alarmist rhetoric. And believing in a shadow government who can’t successfully rig the Electoral College is a fallacy in the logic of a shadow government.
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Let me explain to you what alarmist rhetoric is since you may not know what it is.

Alarmist, noun, someone who is considered to be exaggerating a danger and so causing needless worry or panic.

Rhetoric, noun, the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the use of figures of speech and other compositional techniques.

Examples of this in political commentary are using such terms as "Deep State", "Your President", "Demonrats" , "tRump" , "Republican'ts" , "Libtards", "Conservatards","RINOs", and "Coups" All these words are meant, in some way to either offend, excite, or revel in bias and exacerbate partisan views. I admit, that it is fun to revel and partake, but if your intention is to realistically persuade, especially those who may not share your opinion, it's best to not willfully antagonize them.

Did I antagonize you by calling you a "crying child"? Of course! Ad hominems, however, does not prevent one from making an argument against those who use them against one. But, if you take irrational positions that cannot be argued, then what is the point in arguing with those who are set in their ways when facts and evidence mean nothing when they can use conspiracy theories and psalms to shut down the argument?

I don't want you to sound like a crying child. I genuinely believe that Trump Supporters, not conservatives and Republicans, Trump Supporters, would not exist if they truly upheld their resignation to facts as they so erroneously claim to do so. Trump Supporters do not care about anything except protecting Trump and one-upping "Libtards" As a conservative, I find this more threatening than any conspiracy theory about a shadow government that can't successfully rig an election. I find Trump's incompetence and exacerbation of our political divide more divisive than any presidential impeachment. Partisan though it may be.
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Being born in another country and coming here legally doesn’t make one corrupt.
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OOPS!!

Vindman Admits To Violating Chain Of Command, Says Trump Within Rights To Request Foreign Investigation

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-vindman-williams-testify-tuesday-impeachment-doubleheader
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This just shows that the Republicans took advantage of their followers' ignorance about the chain of command. Had Vindman "violated," the chain of command, he would have been reprimanded or otherwise punished. I often contacted people not directly above me, like lawyers, in the process of doing my job. Just because you don't know how things really work does not mean that this guy, who rose in the ranks instead of being drummed out, did anything wrong. People don't get to his level in the organization he worked in if you ignore protocol and rules.
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Yes, a President can request a foreign investigation.

However, he can not withhold aid if he requests a foreign investigation into a political opponent.
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It is statistically probable for a President’s party to remove him. It does need bipartisan support but it appears that our current Congress is incapable of that. Obstructionist Republicans took hold in 2010-2012. Obstructionist Democrats entered the scene in 2018.

According to most polls, Biden is still leading so it is inaccurate to say that no one actually wants him to be elected.

The DNC back Biden, and the people appear to as well. It makes sense he take the nomination since the DNC believe the overwhelming support of the African-American voters that won Obama two terms could allow Trump, a staunch anti-Obama President, could shift Voter turn our in support for Biden. The crux for Republicans being they must convince the public that Obama was a terrible President, unlikely but possible, Biden is as corrupt as Hillary and Obama, possible, and that Biden is more incompetent than Trump... debatable.
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Yes, but I would require evidence to support that. Jimmy Kimmel is not a Democrat. (He's a voter. Registered to vote Democrat tho he may be, he can, believe it or not, vote Republican.) He's a tv-host whose paid to air his opinions to the public. His opinion alone doesn't represent a census of data.
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That's not how polls work.
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