Projection, is painting others with your own proclivities.

She couldn't trust herself and she projected that onto everyone else..

She didn't trust herself, but had a gun anyway.

So it is bad to be anti-gun-violence. (As you put it)

It is bad to be hypocritical.

Actually that was copied from the article, that is how they put it.

I am anti illegal violence, as I believe all sane people are. I am not anti self defense violence and as an American I have that right. It just so happens that guns are the best self defense tool ever invented.

To be anti gun violence is stupid. They were so anti gun violence in Great Briton that they outlawed guns. Their violence rate did not drop at all. Now they use mostly knives, but still have guns used in crimes.

If you are interested in a conversation see me here https://www.ingunowners.com/forums/break-room/465256-nwi-ingo-general-post-part-16-a.html just go to the end and say HI.

First of all I made a joke. That ^ is a bit of an overreaction. Second, you said anti-gun-violence like there are plenty of people pro-gun-violence. Just say anti-gun or pro gun.

"To be anti gun violence is stupid."

You can see how this statement ^ can be misinterpreted, which I was poking fun at.

Maybe the people that want gun control should be the ones disarmed... Just saying. 95% of mass shooters have been lefties or muslims...

That's a lie.

Thanks for the grace!

With that being said, I have some thoughts.

"I am a very strong supporter of the Second Amendment."

That's cool! I just told my wife she was right (one of her points was that if I stop assuming constant aggression because my family is hostile, I might find common ground with other people). So I want to start by recognizing that we can find common ground.

"While there are some Muslims who feel justified in attacking non-Muslims, I believe they are in the minority, at least in the US. I can't say what it's like in other countries. I think most religions, including Christianity, Judaism and Hinduism, also look down on people outside their belief system. Unfortunately that's human nature. Thankfully, most religious people don't carry out violent attacks against others."

I do think you are right about everything you claim here. I don't think Muslims as a whole in America are violent and I think a large part of that is the fact that western ideals and judeo-christian values that America is based on supersedes a lot of their views. In other words, the common Muslim in America has American values at his/her core, and Islamic values are secondary. The problem outside of the US is a Islamic Legal term called Quranic Abrogation, the words that came last supersedes the words Muhammed said first (he was love and peace first, then later in life he became a war lord). The problem I have with Islam as a whole is that no other religion develops into violence. For example, Buddhism was as always has been about peace, Christianity starts with a war God but then develops into "grace." Islam is the only one I see where it goes from peace and love and develops into violence. Most Islam majority countries do persecute women and homesexuals, which I don't think is okay. No other religion, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism even comes close. So I really do have a hard time seeing that religion without painting with a broad brush but as it currently is, they sure are making it super difficult to do otherwise. I know that's a lot so tell me what you think.

As for my original comment, no, you are correct, I was not talking about the United States, but rather a general historic perspective of the known world. As for America, there is a very good study done on it by a lady named Emma Fridel who looks at the whole picture. (I am going to continue this in another comment, didn't realize I was ranting, hahaha)

But yeah, I think you would enjoy looking at it because it really breaks some assumptions held by both people on the extremes of the right and left. For example, a common talking point on the right, I feel, is that it is a mental health issue. When you see all of them it is clear that while there are a substantial amount of mental health issues that cause these, it isn't nowhere near a majority.

Check it out. In fact, here is a link to a blog that talks about it. They went ahead and made a nice breakdown at the beginning so you can see the demographic:
https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/who-are-mass-shooters-mass-shooter-demographics-part-2/

Let me know what you think.

If I was meming, I would tell you to start with Hitler and Stalin, our favorite leftist heroes. But if you are serious, and really want to deep dive into the topic, try researching all mass shootings. Not NY Times partial view were they look at just public mass shootings (this makes it look like white men disproportionately do them and that the ideology is a mixed bag).

There are three types of mass shootings, Family, Public, and Felony (the above example is of course family). When you look at all mass shootings, you find that whites are actually underrepresented by the statistics. Then broaden your search to all of the world, not just America and you are gonna be in for a nasty surprise. Not because 95% is the number, rather you will find out I am not that far off.

So you mean you didn't do the actual work to get the answer? Color me surprised...

I would give you my source but it is anonymous.

And no, the circular logic your presenting is garbage. Why do I need to specify that? By that same breath I could ask you why you were so quick to assume it was America. Do you see the error in the logic?

Real quick, so one, I owe you an apology. Told my wife a little about our back and forth and she made the point that my language isn't super "nice" and she pointed out some "assumptions" that I made.

Your first question was valid and it was poor of me to assume that you were asking it in an attacking manner. If it is okay with you, I am going to roll back the clock and specify some things and try to start off on a better note. So with that being said, sorry for coming at you in a negative manner.

So, to make my actual point a little more clearer instead of a random rant would be to say something like this: Historically speaking, the world has suffered the most losses of life due to an ideology that aims to disarm the masses or one that considers anyone outside of their viewpoints as subhuman. As for the first category, it would be unfair to say all lefties, because there are many Democrats who call for the defense of the second amendment. But I think it is fair to say that they are the minority in the party, not the majority. Islam falls into the second category. While I wouldn't dare call myself a scholar of the Quran, I have a hard time believing I am very far off the mark. This is based on the fact that I have 2 employees that or Muslim who I have talked to great length about their beliefs, as well as a close uncle. There are just a couple things that you keep seeing repeated that it becomes hard to ignore.

So, that was a little closer to what I should have said the first time. Feel free to disagree. I will do my best to be more civil moving forward should you desire a conversation out of it.