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To every atheist who uses these stupid or cowardly arguments...

To every atheist who uses these stupid or cowardly arguments... | image tagged in memes,christians,religion,atheism,isis,invalid argument | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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It doesn't matter what you believe. It is seems to me, that people will justify their behavior no matter what religion they belong to or lack there of. And it is silly to single out a group of people by they believe rather than by the actual actions the individuals take. I think we can agree, though, that criticism doesn't immediately make you against something but merely an observer with observations that may or may not be constructive to advancing moral systems designed to control or temper their members.
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What makes you think I'm being stupid and cowardly? For one, I've criticized popular groups repeatedly rather than going for the soft targets or low-hanging fruits. Also, I never said all atheists do this; this goes out only to the atheists who do these things. It's titled "to every atheist who does these things", not all atheists. If you're offended, then it's because you missed that I wasn't saying all atheists or you've made these kinds of stupid or cowardly arguments in the past.
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I WAS QUOTING YOU NOT INSULTING YOU | image tagged in memes,captain picard facepalm | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Sounds like you were implying I was those things with your image saying " 'stupid' and 'cowardly'? Hardly seems like you practice what you preach". Either I missed a point you were trying to make or you're just messing with me; which is it?
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Missed my point. Did you read the actual comment or just the meme?
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I read the comment and the meme, what were you trying to say with your meme?
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You’ve already defended your position and admitted that you don’t mean “all” but that’s not specifically made clear with your meme which seems to imply that:

“Christianity is better because of its teachings but other religions and atheism have produced bad people”

I’m saying, any religion or lack thereof, can produce bad people. Attacking a person’s belief system doesn’t show love for your enemies but contempt.
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Now I've clearly specified that I'm not tarring all atheists with the same brush. Part of that implied title was for the purpose of getting attention to make my point. But the title still clearly says to atheists WHO MAKE THESE ARGUMENTS, so logically it should follow if you're not an atheist who makes these arguments then it doesn't apply to you. I suspect the people getting offended have either missed the point or as I said don't like how I called out these SPECIFIC terrible arguments against Christianity or for atheism.

Attacking a person's worldview or belief system doesn't mean you don't love them; hate the sin and love the sinner.
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You appear to perceive anyone who disagrees with you or tries to broaden your perspective as attacking you. Perhaps that is why you feel attacked when you use hostile language.

My meme clearly shows your own words in quotes. I did not call you those things yet you took offense all the same. Now imagine how those you offended feel when they see your meme. The difference tho you meant to be offensive. How is being offensive practicing what you preach, when as you claim, your “central figure” “commanded his followers to love even your enemies”.

You have a very strange way of showing that love. Compassion starts with examining your own behavior and treating others as you want to be treated.

If you truly believe that, then you should be able to argue your point without insulting your opponents. Well, not directly, at the very least.
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So that's what you meant by not practicing what I preach; when I called those arguments "stupid" and "cowardly". I think I've got it now. I call those arguments stupid for several reasons, one of them is the reliance on double standards. I call them cowardly because they tend to be used by people who single out Christianity for criticism when the criticized behaviors found among Christians are also found among people of other religions and the non-religious.

Loving someone doesn't mean never saying things that offend them if and of itself. People take offence at different things; a junkie can consider it offensive if a doctor or family member tells them they have an unhealthy addiction they need to get rid of. The only people who've been insulted here are the ones who mistakenly thought I was tarring all atheists with the same brush, you and (I suspect) atheists who didn't like that I pointed how just how wrong those arguments presented in the meme are. I want people to call out my arguments and have discussions, like we're doing now. The only problem was I misunderstood your initial point. Though I guess some of my memes, for all the valid arguments, are returning fire after people make similarly offensive memes about Christianity or religion. I'll think about presentation, but my argument and this meme still stands.
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Okay, not all atheists are the same.
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I know; hence why I only addressed to the ones who makes these arguments. If you're an atheist who doesn't make these arguments, this doesn't apply to you. If you're offended, either you missed the point or you have made these arguments.
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In response to the first 2 "counterarguments," almost NO atheist makes these arguments. You're confusing atheism with being an SJW.

In response to the bottom "counterargument," these people weren't necessarily atheist, and the reasons these people tried to get rid of religion was to extend their own power, and they were against religion because they were afraid that it would affect their influence, not because they felt as though the religions were immoral or oppressive or anything.
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While not every SJW is an atheist and vica versa, the majority of these woke ideologues are non-religious, most of the high-profile ones are atheists and a person can be an atheist and an SJW.

Saying "These people weren't necessarily atheists", sounds like "those people not wearing kilts weren't true scotsmen". Atheistic dictators trying to violently purge religion is a problem whether they did because they saw a challenge to their influence or opposition to religion; the former were happy to support the talking points of the latter and both led down the same road. For example; Stalin opposed religion both due to personal prejudice and to remove a threat to his power.
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Atheists don't call any religion anything but myths. You don't know any atheists that call christianity bad or islam good. They call all religions stories.
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I know, and have argued with, several who do so (a couple of them even on this very website). Also, I never said all atheists do this; this goes out only to the atheists who do these things. It's titled "to every atheist who does these things", not all atheists. If you're offended, then it's because you missed that I wasn't saying all atheists or you've made these kinds of stupid or cowardly arguments in the past.
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