Trump Ukraine Extortion

WAIT you read the ENTIRE call?

Sure except for the unproved extortion and the lack of evidence that it was done to cheat in the next election.
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Have you read the eclipsed transcript of Trump's shake down phone call to the Ukraine Prez?

Things are indeed moving fast, please get up to speed on current events before making ill-informed postings. This is not like sitting on your porch talking to your dog and kids.

Yes, I actually have. I even downloaded it so I can sift though it for specific questions.
But thanks for all the false assumptions because you see things that are not in the transcript.

BTW, the transcript does says, "CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion." and so forth. So important information might not be included.

You know the missing things to be translator crap? Were you on the 30 minute shake down phone call? Do you have access to the White House's secured server that the call was placed on? I sense someone is trying to pass off BS

Trump is taking his dog Rudy to the pound and he is not going to adopted out.

Never a good sign when your personal attorney if facing FELONY charges that you were involved with.

Really not a good idea to pardon a person for a felony in which you are a co-defendant

Because Rudy and Trump were involved in committing a crime, client privilege does not give Trump protection, therefore it is NOT good to be talking or dealing with Rudy

Because Rudy is going to be under pressure to flip, not good to have him around at ALL

No wonder Trump did not go golfing and why he blew smoke all over the playing field regarding ISIS/Syria and pulling our troops. Someone had a Come To Jesus meeting with Trump and explained the risk he is in and there is a Cancer growing in the Presidency. Cut a deal for yourself and leave all others, including Rudy, before it is too late.

Everything touched by Trump dies…....ask Jeffrey Epstein.

What crimes are Rudy being charged with? The rest of your statement is tin foil hat stuff

Barr will be the next John Mitchell. Mitchell did time in a Federal PRISON after Nixon resigned. Do you know what an AG is?

Putin?

Maria Butina: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

2009 Sergei Magnitski--an Accountant & Attorney who had uncovered a HUGE tax fraud in Russia is killed in Russian jail by Putin associates.

>>> 1. Born 1989---Was Involved in Politics From a Young Age & Started a Furniture Store in her hometown in Siberia That She Sold in 2011 at age 22 moved to Moscow. No gun background, no cyber background either.

>>> 2. 2011 Maria Butina began working for then-Russian Senator Aleksandr Torshin, an oligarch and Putin ally. Torshin is now the deputy governor of the Central Bank of Russia
She was an UNPAID special assistant to Torshin from 2011 to 2015 while he was serving on the Russian Federal Council as First Vice Chairman

2012 Congress with bipartisan support passes the Magnitski Act which is signed by Obama. These are the SANCTIONS that Putin so desperately wants to get rid of

>>> 3. 2012 Butina starts building a relationship between the NRA & Her Russian Group, Right to Bear Arms

She attends many NRA events, often accompanied by her former boss, Aleksandr Torshin--Russian oligop, and developed a close relationship with former NRA President David Keene. She also met with another former NRA president, Wayne LaPierre, photos show

Maria also has brought NRA officials to Russia to speak at Right to Bear Arms events. Butina has made appearances with Republican politicians, including ex-Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, former Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, former Senator Rick Santorum and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. She was at Walker’s presidential campaign launch in 2015

Me: she lives in Siberia, sells furniture, moves to Moscow at age 22 and then for the next 5 years works with NO pay from an Oligop. Doesn't add up

>>> 4. 2015 Maria asked candidate Trump about Russian Sanctions at the FreedomFest in Las Vegas event in 2015 & Wrote an Op-Ed Saying a Republican President Would Be Good for Russia

Telling Trump she was from Russia and asking what he would do as president about the “damaging” U.S. sanctions.

Trump responded, “I know Putin, and I’ll tell you what, we get along with Putin… I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin, OK? And I mean, where we have the strength. I don’t think you’d need the sanctions. I think we would get along very, very well.”

2015, Butina wrote an opinion piece in The National Interest in which she argued, “It may take the election of a Republican to the White House in 2016 to improve relations between the Ru

NRA=== Russians, Alexander Torshin and Maria Butina

The FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump in 2016 when he got $30m and the Repubs overall received $70m. The NRA does NOT have to disclose where it gets it's money from.

At the heart of this investigation is Russian Central banker ALEXANDER TORSHIN with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association (NRA)

Torshin, a Russian AND a lifetime NRA member who has attended several of the NRA annual conventions. At the group’s meeting in Kentucky in May 2016, Torshin spoke to Donald Trump Jr. during a gala event

The encounter matters because Torshin was involved, through an intermediary, in what was described in an E-MAIL sent to Trump campaign aides as a "Russian backdoor overture." Jared Kushner, Donald Trump's son-in-law, denied his request for a meeting with the candidate on an email CHAIN that allegedly also included aides Rick Dearborn, Paul Manafort and RICK GATES. Mueller now has those e-mails

Torshin was a senior member of the Russian Senate and in recent years helped set up a Moscow gun rights group called RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS

Veteran conservative operative Paul Erickson described the links between the NRA and Right to Bear Arms as a “moral support operation both ways.”

Torshin’s ties with the NRA have flourished in recent years. In late 2015, he hosted two dinners for a high-level NRA delegation (led by Ex NRA pres David Keene) during its WEEK-long visit to Moscow that included meetings with influential Russian government and business figures. The NRA delegation included Milwaukee Sheriff/Fox Commentator DAVID CLARK, Pete Brownell---CEO of a US gun company and Joe Gregory who runs NRA's Ring of Freedom---elite donors of $1m+

Torshin’s efforts to cozy up to the Trump campaign, the Moscow banker has forged ties with powerful conservatives, including Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher. Rohrabacher was in Moscow, met with Torshin and called him a " mover and shaker"

Torshin was slated to see the president at a meet-and-greet event prior to a White House breakfast, but Torshin’s invitation was canceled after the White House learned of his alleged mob connections

Torshin has been implicated in money laundering thru Spanish properties by judicial authorities in Spain

Wow you should become a American writer and conspiracy theorist like Gary Allen. Maybe even a sci fi writer. The tin foil is strong with this one

Maria Butina: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

2009 Sergei Magnitski--an Accountant & Attorney who had uncovered a HUGE tax fraud in Russia is killed in Russian jail by Putin associates.

>>> 1. Born 1989---Was Involved in Politics From a Young Age & Started a Furniture Store in her hometown in Siberia That She Sold in 2011 at age 22 moved to Moscow. No gun background, no cyber background either.

>>> 2. 2011 Maria Butina began working for then-Russian Senator Aleksandr Torshin, an oligarch and Putin ally. Torshin is now the deputy governor of the Central Bank of Russia
She was an UNPAID special assistant to Torshin from 2011 to 2015 while he was serving on the Russian Federal Council as First Vice Chairman

2012 Congress with bipartisan support passes the Magnitski Act which is signed by Obama. These are the SANCTIONS that Putin so desperately wants to get rid of

>>> 3. 2012 Butina starts building a relationship between the NRA & Her Russian Group, Right to Bear Arms

She attends many NRA events, often accompanied by her former boss, Aleksandr Torshin--Russian oligop, and developed a close relationship with former NRA President David Keene. She also met with another former NRA president, Wayne LaPierre, photos show

Maria also has brought NRA officials to Russia to speak at Right to Bear Arms events. Butina has made appearances with Republican politicians, including ex-Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, former Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, former Senator Rick Santorum and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. She was at Walker’s presidential campaign launch in 2015

Me: she lives in Siberia, sells furniture, moves to Moscow at age 22 and then for the next 5 years works with NO pay from an Oligop. Doesn't add up

>>> 4. 2015 Maria asked candidate Trump about Russian Sanctions at the FreedomFest in Las Vegas event in 2015 & Wrote an Op-Ed Saying a Republican President Would Be Good for Russia

Telling Trump she was from Russia and asking what he would do as president about the “damaging” U.S. sanctions.

Trump responded, “I know Putin, and I’ll tell you what, we get along with Putin… I believe I would get along very nicely with Putin, OK? And I mean, where we have the strength. I don’t think you’d need the sanctions. I think we would get along very, very well.”

2015, Butina wrote an opinion piece in The National Interest in which she argued, “It may take the election of a Republican to the White House in 2016 to improve relations between the Ru

Sorry but I don't follow what you are saying, who is going to do what?

want to be a mod on booty stream?

You have a point. When people have their mouths open, they generally can not learn.

One learns by listening to others and asking questions.

It is one thing I have noticed about Trump supporters, they do NOT have a desire to find out how things work and why things are the way they are. There are reasons----one has to get off one's lazy butts and find out and learn.

One thing I have learned about liberals - they can't tell you how the Constitution works.

Also, Trump has evidently broken so many laws, liberals can't name a single law Trump allegedly broke.

Start with the premise of what laws has he NOT broken.

I called the Trump White today, phones are swamped, got put into their automated call selection options:
1 Embezzlement
2 Extortion
3 Treason
4 Tariffs
5 Greenland/Jeffrey Epstein
6 Taliban at Camp David
7 Hurricanes hitting Alabama
8 Impeachment
9 Resignation
0 Mexico's payments for the WALL….like in the number of Pesos received to date
000 == For Trump's remaining creditability

That is a lie you push a lie , therefore you are a LIE

That is a good observation, he may be the ONLY Republican not arrested for Treason come Nov 2020

But wait a minute, wasn't Hannity one of Michael Cohen's most important clients?

Did Hannity graduate from college?

How do you explain the fact that the Ukrainian president who you think was 'extorted' actually refutes the entire premise? When asked about the conversation and whether or not he was pressured to do anything, or was there a quid pro quo...his response is NO, I was not. There was no quid pro quo.

I suppose you think he's just in on the whole thing too right? He's lying too? Get a grip man, you're being played. Biden admitted publicly that he did the exact thing that the pathetic dem's are accusing Trump of and YOU don't even care, because you're too blinded by TDS brought on by the MSM spin factory. Snap out of it and wake the F up.

Play the 30 minute tape of the conversation with Trump doing the EXTORTION.

It is that SIMPLE. Can your simple mind understand that-----fool.

Oh, did you hear, Trump has hired Trey Gaudy to be his lawyer. Someone who is innocent does not need an attorney.

Is that all you have, name-calling and anger in response? I love how you completely dodge my question, ignoring the facts of the situation with regards to the hoax extortion narrative being pushed. The so-called victim in the equation, Ukrainian prez, says nope....didn't happen. You and the rest of the desperate TDS victims are a sad bunch.

1. "name-calling and anger in response?"
2. "You and the rest of the desperate TDS victims"

If you are going to make statement 1 then at least be consistent and not make statement 2. Just a little hypocritical aren't you?

Really there is NO substitute for brains.

That was after you responded by being uncivil and claiming I'm simple minded and a fool. Highlighting that you're suffering from trump derangement syndrome isn't name calling, just a fact.

And yet again, you completely dodge the question because you've got no answer, which is why you chose to respond the way you did. It will be fun to watch the truth about the Biden's come to light, despite the unified efforts of the dishonest Dem's and MSM to cover it up.

Here, hopefully even you will be able to understand this.

124 DAYS till the New Hampshire Primary. I can understand why you are so nervous and afraid for your Traitor named Trump

Rank Pop (m) "GDP /Cap
($ 000'a)" Country
1 -- 1,420 -- 11 -- China
2 -- 1,369 -- 2 -- India
3 -- 329 -- 65 -- United States
4 -- 270 -- 4 -- Indonesia
5 -- 212 -- 11 -- Brazil
6 -- 205 -- 1 -- Pakistan
7 -- 201 -- 2 -- Nigeria
8 -- 168 -- 2 -- Bangladesh
9 -- 144 -- 12 -- RUSSIA
10 -- 132 -- 10 -- Mexico
11 -- 127 -- 42 -- Japan
12 -- 110 -- 1 -- Ethiopia

What I could never understand is how Russia with a HUGE amount of natural resources wind up with a GDP/cap of $12,000. Is that all you Russian BOTS make. It is indicative of the top people in Russia are sucked away all the Country's resources. It is not the Russian people, it is the Top folks in Russia that is THE problem.

Oh my, are the Russian BOTS busy tonight. Innocent people don’t act like Trump.

Trump's get out of jail card is to turn on PUTIN.

Trump will come and go, Putin represents a much larger issue: a decently large country where Government, Business, and Mob have become so intertwined, it poses a threat to other countries who have to deal with it.

So much of the US's government is based on transparency and the Rule of Law, so much of business is based on trust. The Mob and self dealing are a cancer we can NOT allow to take hold.

Remember we are a country of LAWS and NO ONE is about the law.

Look to Putin, his career has been with the USSR's intel, he rose up through the ranks. Then he went after the press murdering reporters. This is NO accident folks.

Sanctions: Sergei Magnitsky-------- in US Congress it is called the Magnitsky Act
WHY were Sanctions put in place against Russia in the first place-- ~2010
Why it is essential to keep corruption out of government and business
Bill Browder of Hermitage Capital Fund-- Stanford MBA, bought up Russian securities when it went private sector in the early/mid 90's

The time period: Russia going from communist--everything owned by govt-----to a capitalist model. Assets are being sold off at valuations that are very, very low. Not sure if it incompetence or rip-offs but the valuations are nothing like how the US stock market operates where valuation is based on income or on asset sale.

With the change in govt and with Yeltsin, there is not govt in control. A vacuum occurs, underworld mafia fills a portion of the playing field and things get intertwined.

Browder made a lot money (billions), was aligned with Putin at first when Putin was doing the anti theft of Gazprom

Putin then went after other olyigops to stop theft, and they offered Putin 50% ownership of their ill gotten gains. Putin takes it and is now in with these olyigops

Browder's business had set up different corp names/entities. Standard investment practice to contain risk in case of a financial fire/suits.

Browder is making money and paying Russian income and capital gain taxes on his different companies.

Putin turns on Browder/Hermitage--not sure why but highly suspect it is due to Browder pointing out rip offs which are screwing up the investment market and asset value----looting of a company by bad people----mix of mafia and corrupt govt types.

After the turn, Browder was nevertheless able to pull his assets out of Russia. No capital restrictions in place. Browder's firms had already paid capital gains taxes. Browder in essence lets these companies to stay in existence but in a dormant state, no assets, no liabilities, just doing nothing any more.

Police turn these docs over to corrupt govt/mafia people. They back dated documents, forge documents to falsely claim that these shut down companies had financial performance guarantee contracts who's terms of performance had not been met.

Because of the alleged non-performance, the companies on the other side of these false performance contracts sued these shut down corporations owned by Browder. Browder is no longer running the company, the corrupt govt/mafia are and they don't put up any legal defense. Plaintiff gets huge sum

Senators who spent July 4 in Russia--ALL were REPUBLICAN
Next Election Elected State Age Last Name
20 -- 2014 -- MT -- 57 -- Daines
22 -- 1986 -- AL -- 85 -- Shelby
22 -- 2010 -- KS -- 65 -- Moran
22 -- 2016 -- LA -- 67 -- Kennedy
22 -- 2010 -- ND -- 62 -- Hoeven
22 -- 2004 -- SD -- 58 -- Thune
22 -- 2010 -- WI -- 64 -- Johnson