Constitutional Convention

Because before this, presidents would always enjoy a largely unchallenged tenure?

Mmmmmmmm.....nnnnnno, that's pretty equivalent to your exact words

Gotta admit, this dimwit is precious.

"Your ipad5 compared to my ipad5? That's false equivalency because weftist, durr durr derp"

There's a special commitment to his side of the story with this one, yes.

Sticking to your guns is one thing, but when it's an automatic and aimed at one's own head, maybe time to stick somewhere else.

No, no, just tell your attacker that it's actually a water gun and then call him an idiot for pulling out the sales receipt to prove that it isn't - you'll be fine.

haha

Yeah, I'm a flow with the go type of guy (watch the constipated bunghole harp on that 'error'). I let idiots set up their own parameters, then we proceed from there.
I like fighting fire with oil, makes it easier on muh lungs...

Give them enough rope and they'll decide to show you it's a bungee chord by demonstration.

Surely as an anti-Commoonizt Individualisticalated individual he pays for his medical bills out of pocket with the gold nuggets he found in the walls of his abandoned mine shaft abode, but that throbbing artery on his forehead bursting might prove a tad messy, especially with the janitor sent back to the Mexican country of Honduras.

Like those Kung Fu movies where the guy in training has every bone in his hand broken a gazillion times over the years to make it super duper rock hard (yet miraculously retain full mobility!). "Muh neck is stronger now, hurr hurr, gimme more rope"

haha, got a ton of triggered replies from him today, and have yet to reply to any...
Mustn't keep him waiting, that won't help calm him...

Oh aye, health and safety first - over-agitating him would be ever so terrible. 😕

Lots. To all of them.

You're honestly telling me that you don't remember anybody calling for Obama's impeachment?

Don't worry about me. I'm very much ready to be judged here.

I don't watch any of those shows except for CNN occasionally (and I'm quite critical of it btw) , but I did watch Mueller's hearing on-line and Rep. Peter Welch asked Mueller, "“Have we established a new normal from this past campaign that is going to apply to future campaigns, so that if any one of us running for the U.S. House ― any candidate for the U.S. Senate, any candidate for the presidency of the United States ― aware that a hostile foreign power is trying to influence an election, has no duty to report that to the FBI or other authorities?” and Mueller replied, "I hope this is not the new normal, But I fear it is.”

Trump himself recently told George Stephanopoulos in an interview he would listen if a foreign country approached him with opposition research and he said he would listen and wouldn't necessarily report it to the FBI.

You are absolutely wrong! It's illegal to receive solicit, accept or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election.

Which state?

He claims to be from some unnamed corner of California yet hates the entire State but won't move despite his supposed "individualist" leanings marked the quarter deer in the freezer and the 4 marijuana plants growing in his former outhouse.

Oh I was wondering if he meant California or was mad about Californians moving to a different state. There is the state of Jefferson movement that wants to separate and form a new state.

He's mad at everything. By far the most bitter thing on the site, and a site chock full of bitter trolls, that's quite a lot.

Oh yeah, heard about the Jefferson thing. Yeah, they'll prosper well on lumber and the occasional tourists.

IKR, XD

We've had that kind of talk here, with Upstate NY wanting to split off.
Like go ahead, dead weight, tired of paying their bills.
They can make do on dairy and apple picking season, woo woo!

Man. Wasn't there like a think conservatives kept going back to with Obama about why he couldn't be President? Something about being born somewhere?

Oh, I remember, it was "Bill Clinton told a lie about cheating on his wife so we have to Impeach Him because lying is unpresidential."

I would argue that he did not get away with it. He got impeached. Sure, the didn't convict him in the senate but that was still a check on him. Incidentally one of the articles of impeachment for Clinton was obstruction of justice. I suggest you need to take it just as seriously for a Republican as you would for a Democrat. Mueller cleared laid out at least 10 examples in his report.

No.

Obstruction of Justice is itself a crime.

Interfering with an investigation is a crime. Even if the thing the FBI/Cops are investigation turns out to not be a crime.

INTERFERING WITH AN INVESTIGATION IS A CRIME.

Do you understand that?

He obstructed the pursuit of justice by interfering with an investigation.

He did so 10 separate times.

Each time is a separate crime.

This is why there's the saying "the cover-up is worse than the crime."

Obstructing an investigation is a crime.

Do you need me to repeat that again?

I know this is hard for you to understand.

Obstruction of Justice is by itself a crime.

It literally has it's own chapter in the US Code of Laws.

Chapter 73.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-73

A fun section to read through:18 U.S. Code § 1510. Obstruction of criminal investigations. That's the part that covers interfering with an investigation is a crime. Like lying to investigators. Getting other people to lie to investigators. If you deliberately destroy records relevant to that investigation .

You have interfered with an investigation. You have Obstructed Justice.

I know you're not going to read through that, but no where does it say "yeah, but it's cool if you lie to the cops or the FBI when the thing they were investigating wasn't actually a crime."

That's not a thing.

Oh, and 1 last thing: this has 0 to do with 2016. It has 0 to do with Hillary.

It is 100% about what Trump has done. He needs to be held accountable for what he has one.

I know conservatives can't let her go. I know you can't stop talking about 2016.

@Timber1972 - man, this is not a partisanship issue, it's a matter of US case law, there doesn't have to be an underlying crime to obstruct justice. After all if you successfully obstruct justice, you may have covered up the underlying crime if it exists. This is not something that is debated between Democrats and Republicans, we all agree. Now if you believe there was no underlying crime you may think that the Obstruction is less serious, and that is understandable, but it doesn't really change it legally. Obstruction requires corrupt intent, obstructive conduct, and a connection to a pending proceeding. There are many examples in US case law where someone tried to cover up something that wasn't a crime, and it is still obstruction. In Trump's case, if we assume that there was no illegal conspiracy with the Russians, but he didn't want it known that the Russians intervened in his favor and he could be guilty of obstruction for interfering with the purpose of making that not known. He could also be protecting friends such as Flynn. Granted Barr seems to argue that you can't have corrupt intent if there is no underlying crime, but this is not consistent with the law.

Exactly.

@Timber1972 - your examples are only potentially obstruction of justice if you interfere with an investigation to prevent people from knowing these things. I would also expect that paying off people is a crime if you don't report it due to campaign finance regulations.
Cheers!

Facts hurt your frail pip of an ego? Sad. Regardless, they are still facts.

Your God, Trumpypoo, committed obstruction justice.
Deal with it.