Third World Skeptical Kid

Only if you ignore the Bible and the design of the human body. Obviously the context of the meme is in a Biblical context and it clearly says so.

Whether you consider it to be authoritative or not is irrelevant to the meme as it is aimed at those who do. The Bible IS authoritative whether or not I consider it to be or not.

Men and women are designed for each other as it is pretty self evident.

If you go by intelligent design, then why can men get orgasms from getting f**ked in their anus? Seems to me God did that just so men who like men also get sexual pleasure from the bottom position.

"Everything"? No. Every commandment is not meant for everyone. There are a lot of commandments for just Christians and some were just for the Israelites. So, the context means a lot. Have you ever read Proverbs?

It's written by one of the wisest men who ever lived. He also wrote the Book of Ecclesiastes which is full of wisdom. I highly recommend them.

As for your other questions I suggest that you read it. Times and situations change. The Bible isn't only about commands and telling you what to do. It's also a history book. It was a different time culturally as well. I think I might have mentioned this previously to you and that is that some commands were strictly for the Israelites to set themselves apart from other tribes and they were civil and ceremonial. And God did also have universal laws which does apply to all people in all places at all times - Thou shall not steal and kill(murder) were two of them.

The Bible does not condone owning slaves as what was done in America. When He prohibited stealing- it meant stealing people too. There was indentured slavery in those times to pay off debts and once you read it then you will see that it was with limitations - 7 years. Kidnappers and slave traders are specifically names in 1 Timothy 10 as contrary to "sound doctrine". What you have to be aware of is that because the Bible is a history book they it describes events and it prescribes acts as well and understanding the difference is critical when not only reading the Bible, but any book. A lot of your questions can be sorted out by reading it first hand for yourself.

If we had to do everything that every person in the Bible did, we would be okay if we raped, stole, kidnapped, committed incest, committed homosexuality, committed murder, committed adultery, owned slaves, etc. etc.

Jesus didn't go through a laundry list of what not to do. If you love your neighbor, you don't own him as property. The fact was that slavery existed, and people still had to love God with all their heart, soul, and mind, in spite of their situation.

First of all, if we did everything that people in the Bible did, we would murder, do adultery, curse, fornicate, etc. You're right, but we aren't supposed to follow what people do, we follow what God says. And God says not to have slaves, not to commit incest, fornicate, etc. And also, if you guys really think that God wants people to have slaves, i advise you read a book called "Is God a Moral Monster" by Paul Copan. It's a great book, and addresses seemingly pro-rape, pro-slave behavior. But the definition and culture of slavery was very different back then, I think you guys should look into it. It's quite interesting. Also this is a good meme my man.

Thanks for proving my point regarding the difference of slavery in those times versus what happened in America. It had restrictions. Mind you that Jesus is God in the Bible. And yes- Paul said what he said but you are begging the question by assuming that slavery is the same as what we had in America.

I personally don't follow the bible being I don't believe in it but there has been research that proves that people really are born gay

A so-called gay gene has never been discovered and this has been researched to the hilt. NADA. Research has also been conducted on identical twins as well. I'm afraid that you have been mislead.

If everyone was a Strict homosexual it will lead to extinction of the species...which would not be a bad thing given that

If sex is for pleasure, and procreation is removed, then why go that route?

How does strictly gay sex create a pregnancy?

Strict homosexual

There's a meme in there somewhere...

The health-related issues alone make it wrong.

Really? You need to ask?
OK, I’m sure you’re itching to tell me all about heterosexuals also get AIDS. But there are other aspects of homosexual lifestyle that pose higher health risks too. A simple google search will answer your question. Here are a couple of articles to get you started.

http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/health-risks-of-the-homosexual-lifestyle/

https://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF08L44.pdf

How convenient it must be to discount scientific studies because they’re sited by groups you don’t agree with. The fact that homosexual lifestyle is unhealthy still remains.

What’s “dishonest in their presentation of the facts”?

Irrelevant if true - Genetic fallacy

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/stds/79098

Because if there's one thing America needs, it's yet more preachers!

Imams are preachers too. Wanna get rid of them?

We need good preachers. BTW, there is a difference between a missionary and a preacher.

We need a lot of things. Fewer preachers, fewer gays, fewer illegals, fewer non-Americans being concerned with how America operates...could go on for days

Well, we could arrange it so that America is just you living in a cave. Would that solve the problem?

Not sure, I was just adding on to your comment about things we don’t need more of

If anything we need more gays. The world is getting overpopulated, and seeing how men can't get other men pregnant, nor can women get other women pregnant, more homosexuality would solve that problem. I would however prefer that especially men would be gay, because then I would have less competition and more women for myself.

"We need" the F do you think you are to say what I need?

One thing we don’t need are more ITG’s

No there's nothing wrong with homosexuality! And abortion is a lot of fun.
But in all seriousness. How is it wrong if two people of the same sex love each other? And how does what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms affect your life?
If you feel the need to deny them their right to be happy with who they are, and with who they love, then it's you who has something wrong with them.

You’re right. There’s nothing wrong with two people of the same sex to *love* each other. But having sex and loving are two different things. What they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms wouldn’t matter if they actually kept it in the privacy of their own bedrooms. But they don’t. In fact they do the opposite by flaunting it, having parades, and crying persecution when someone takes issue with their lifestyle or public display of affection.

The problem is that the LGTXYZ will not just live and let live. They are going after Christians as well as children. It is being forced on children here in California schools and there's no opt out. So, it is a misrepresentation to say that it's being kept in the bedrooms. We could live with that.

Right... It's the Christians that are the victims..... It's the Christians that get discriminated against.....

You just don't get your way all the time like you used to. Now you people get called out on your bigotry and you have the f**king nerve to call it persecution.
Homosexuals no longer have to hide who they are like back in the day, and somehow you see that as an infringement of 'your' rights?

Sure, there are some far left extremists who go to far. I think so too.
But don't act like Christians are being persecuted. You're starting to become EQUAL to other groups and you're losing your special privileges.

What happened to the original context of this question of live and let live and how it shouldn't effect me? Live you homo life and leave me alone and I'll do the same but the Gay NAZI in you wants to force you beliefs on others and if you don't know this then you should excuse yourself from the conversation and do some reading. The courts have ruled in favor of religious liberty and freedom and you can't force yur baloney on others and I can't force my baloney on you. Except that the Gay NAZIs are forcing their baloney on children in public schools from K-12 so that should make you happy. If a teacher taught the Bible as the history that it is then you and your ilk would have a hissy fit to end all hissy fits for sure. So yes - Christians are being target as well as their children. Take your baloney to another baker or florist and leave the Christian ones alone. And don't ever as me about how dudes or chicks nailing each other affects me. If that's all it were then it wouldn't. Leave the Christians alone and they will leave you alone. I won't force my religion on you and stop forcing your baloney on me. I hope this helps- God Bless

Actually, there is evidence that native Americans were Christian themselves. They didn’t call themselves “Christian” because they came here before Christ was even born. But they worshiped a white god who visited them and promised to return some day.

They may have not been “Christians” as defined by the Europeans but they still had religious beliefs similar to Christianity.

The point is, Christians didn’t “force” religion on them. They were already religious and shared the same basic beliefs.

Who is forcing their baloney on you? Live and let live?
You give your opinion with your meme and your reactions, and when you get reactions you don't like you yell persecution. That's just sad.

Because you want to live in your Christian bubble without noticing people with non-Christian views and ideals you feel like your freedom is being threatened.
Christianity is NOT under attack.
As I said, you are losing your special privileges and are getting the equal rights treatment.

And YES. There's a lot of Preachers spouting hatred against the gays.
Don't act like all Christians are these all loving and tolerant do-gooders

You're the one who started this discussion by posting this meme, and when people comment you react to them.
If you can't take other peoples point of view than maybe try staying of the internet.

And I am not gay by the way, nor am I a nazi.
I'm just all about equal rights, and don't think anyone should get special treatment.

Apparently you have a reading comprehension issue. I told you how and who is forcing their baloney on Christians. I gave you 3 examples - the Christian baker and florist and the FAIR ACT here in California which forces the homosexual view on not just Christian children but ALL children. If you are not aware of these issues then it is not I, but you who are in a bubble.

As for "a lot of preachers spouting hatred against gays", it begs the question as to what you mean by "hatred". What do you mean by it? I have been in Churches all of my life and have never heard a preacher spouting hatred about gays. Where are they and explain what you mean by hatred, please.

If you are okay with gays forcing their view on others via force then it is NAZI like. If you are about equal rights then does that apply to Christians? I will tell you that gays in America have equal rights but that's not enough. The movement will never be satisfied until it forces it's views on Christians as acceptable.

As for the meme I posted, I am dealing with the comments as they come - even though the comments are off topic.

Pretty sure you're the one with the reading comprehension issue.
I never said you don't have the right for your Christian views. But you are being a enormous hypocrite. You feel you have the right to discriminate against others and cry you're being discriminated against because you people are being called out on it.

You have all the right to believe what you want, but so does anyone else.

About the christian florists and bakers, I think that's a tricky one.
On one hand it's their freedom of speech, sure. But they are being bigoted pieces of shit. Don't you think it's degrading when a same sex couple wants to get married and get a cake but the baker denies them their cake based on their sexuality?

At the end of the day you want people to tolerate YOUR intolerance.

About the preachers spouting hatred against gays...
There's been plenty preachers who say gays should be burned to death.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/14/us/tennessee-preacher-cop-lgbtq/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPRTMscoy-c

Yeah, me too. But unfortunately people like that tend to get away with that kind of shit.

And teaching the bible as history is a way for forcing your belief on others by the way.
You're feeding your doctrine to young undeveloped minds to mold them to your way of thinking.

We don't. We can't. That being said - it should be taught as history. That's not forcing doctrine either. Islam is as well as homosexuality.

Yes you can, and you do.

Christianity is just like Islam. a Religion based on nothing but blind faith.
There is no more evidence for Christianity than for Islam. It's NOT history, it's a RELIGION!

And no one is forcing homosexuality on anyone! Except if you count the preachers who rape young boys... Then yes. Those children are being forced into gay sex.

Gee, isn't religion just wonderful?

I just told you how while exposing the assumption that it's just live and let live. An outright lie. Religious people and their rights ARE under attack and fortunately the courts have smacked down the "Gay NAZIs" who want to force Christian Bakers and Florists to participate in their ceremonies. In California the FAIR Act is pushing the idea of homosexuality into public schools K-12 with no opt out. I hope this answers your question as to how they are going after Christians and clarifies the issue. I'll ask your other questions with questions - Are churches attacking homosexuals? NO. Are pastors attacking homosexuals? NO. THE Holy book says a lot of things and it is disingenuous to take it out of context as you are attempting to do. The question is whether or not Christians are stoning homosexuals to death. Are they? I will tell you why we don't - because we have basic reading skills and realize that this applied to Israel at that time in history. So you might want to aim your question at a Muslim because in countries where Islam us dominate, homosexuals are being killed. Thanks.

Agreed!

"In fact they do the opposite by flaunting it, having parades, and crying persecution when someone takes issue with their lifestyle or public display of affection"

Yeah that one f**king parade per year where it's celebrated that they can be themselves in a world were there is still so many close minded retards taking offense at nothing more than their sexuality. And do you take offense when a straight couple kiss in public?
Gay people have the exact same rights we do. (or should in some places) Just because you don't like looking at it doesn't mean they aren't allowed to show affection in public. F**K double standards!

And how do you take issue with their lifestyle? Like I said before. How the f**k does it affect you? It's their life, their style. They're not hurting anyone. They're being themselves.

And homosexuals ARE being persecuted plenty.
It happens way too many times where they get beaten the f**k up for holding hands in public, or people trying to take away their equal f**king rights in the name of religion.
In some country's they get f**king beheaded or thrown of f**king buildings for f**k sake, just because they're gay.

So, you agree that they DON’T keep it in the privacy of their bedroom. It’s not like there is even one “straight pride” parade every year, Yet they flaunt their lifestyle every year then complain about infringement of their “private” lives bing scrutinized.

Straight people aren’t being hypocritical about what they do in the privacy of their bedroom while flaunting it in a public parade. So spare us your pathetic double standards speech.

Homosexuals aren’t the only ones that get beat up or beheaded or thrown off buildings in other countries. Americans have been beheaded just for being American. And religious business owners in America get persecuted when they don’t want to be forced to make special accommodations for or participate in gay celebrations. Why can’t these people be themselves too?

What are you saying? Do you see them buttf**king in the streets?
I doubt it.
With keeping it in the bedroom I didn't mean hiding their sexual orientation. It's nothing they should be ashamed of.

Pretty sure there was a straight parade a while ago. I'm not against it, but why would that be necessary? It's not like heterosexuality gets persecuted all the time.
The gay parade's are a celebration for equal rights for homosexuals. So yeah. They get to go crazy and "flaunt" it.

No they are not the only ones, that's right. But they DO GET BEHEADED AND THROWN OF BUILDINGS for no other reason than their sexuality.
But when have Americans have been beheaded for being American?
Even if that's true, an American normally can choose to go to such a country.
Gay people? They are born everywhere. Even in those country's, so they have to hide who they are. But if they are found out they get f**king executed.

And how do business owners get persecuted? Because they discriminate against homosexuals? I see your point in them having their right to serve who they see fit...
But in the end of the day, they are f**king bigoted pieces of shit.