Philosoraptor

While they may have the right to censor (that will probably be decided in court for companies like Twitter / FB) all it really means is that when they do censor, we do not have free speech, but they have the right to censor. It doesn't mean we have free speech *and* they have the right to censor. The two are not compatible.

You are free to start your own meme website and post anything you want.

So free speech is an illusion. Got it.

Look, i get what you're saying and you're not wrong. But I think in the case of fb and twitter, these are basically public utilities, twitter got a ton of government money to build it and they are exempt from liability laws because they are suppose to be impartial. I think those are special cases where they should choose which way they want it.

Imgflip is like a bakery. You can always go somewhere else.

Yes. They are the public square in today's world. You are also ignoring the benefits they receive for things they aren't following through with at this point.

Who competes with them in any serious manner?

Yes, exactly right. So, my point was that it's not free speech when it's censored, even if the censorship is legal.

I took your reply to mean that you were saying we have free speech even when censored, because the meme asked if we have free speech when a meme is removed, and it answered its own question by saying no, we don't.

You replied "Technically yes, because as a private entity, Imgflip can censor anything they want" So I thought you were saying we have free speech even when it's censored. Sorry if I got that wrong.