Robert E. Lee

Not a supporter of Lee, but he was merely a figurehead to the true villain.

Lol

Jefferson Davis. The confederate leader.

He hesitated doing it, but finally did because he was a Statesman, loyal to his people. General Robert E Lee was an honorable man.

Not to justify or endorse slavery, but subjugating the will of a State to the yoke of the Federal Goverment is in itself a form of slavery, albiet not to such vile extremes and suffering.

President Abraham Lincoln was a would be tyrant who only LATER 'freed' the slaves to screw the South.
Read between the lines: his elevation into messianic saviour status is a way of conning those who were formally enslaved into thinking that those who made them slaves redeeemed themselves by gifting them with freedom. Punishment for the Confederacy turned into deliverance. It's a con, Lincoln himself was a racist who initially only wanted to keep the Union together with the insititution of slavery intact.

The United States....Is that forever ? Can we kill you if you do not want to be united? The UK wants to be free of the EU, should the EU declare war on the UK? The south said we want to go another way. And the north said no, you go with us no matter what ? Is that freedom? California wants to secede should we war on them? I think they should have been allowed to secede, and no trade with the north would be allowed. That would have been the end of it.

I am surprised that you and Vagabond didn't chime in with "The slaves were better off," ofr the rest of the racist crap your kind deals out. In case you missed it in your reading of history, the treasonous states fired the first shots. We, the United States of Amreica, whose uniform I proudly wore, and whose Veterans I served for three decades, fired the last ones. Your side lost. No great General I ever read about would lead a grossly undermanned (they had about half the soldiers the United States had) and underarmed force in an underfunded attempt to defend the ownership of one human being by another. No great General I ever heard or read about was so weak that about 12% of his forces deserted in the first years of his campaign. Lee was a hot mess, and is only worshipped because he defended racism. As for seceding, the EU and USA are governed by completely different sets of laws, making comparing them a fool's errand. United States Supreme Court, in Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1868), determined that secession was unconstitutional. Chief Justice Salmon Chase wrote in his majority opinion that, "The ordinance of secession...and all the acts of legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law." So, under the Constitution that binds us as a nation, secession is illegal.

Hell Larry i am still trying to figure out why the blacks are still here, you gonna hang with your owners?