Just count the number of the Ten Commandments broken by Trump and stop being so stupid.

Liberals: Keep your religion out of my politics

Also Liberals: How can you vote for someone who breaks Christian morals?

Ah, the hypocrisy that goes unnoticed by liberals.

Actually its not....But I understand your confusion.

A person's religion does not decide their politics. In fact, Liberals demand that the religious right stop trying to legislate their religious beliefs and values, unless of course the Left can use their religious beliefs for their own gain, then of course, the right becomes hypocrites in their mind.

We were never hypocritical. We have religious beliefs, those beliefs do not dictate our politics.

Bible Belt Moral Majority Conservative Christian now called Red State vs Godless Blue State apostasy not ring any bells?

Have you ever even heard anything about America outside of the confines of your antagonstic reactionary script, let alone so much as visit it?

Oh good, the conversation just got knocked down to the intellectual level of putrid with the arrival of Vagabonde

It had to be knocked down to that level to accommodate your delightfully stunted obtuse ignorance.

Again, ever been anywhere closer than a script to here?

Ignorance does not necessarily denote lack of intellect. One can be highly intelligent, and be unaware (ignorant) of certain things.

Your in ability to discern the difference between ignorance and lack of intellect however again highlights the unfathomable mountain of stupid in your possession.

In your case they're part of the same necrotic walnut.

But do keep deflecting. Your lack of a rebuttal is merely confessional.

Bible Belt ▶
Moral Majority ▶
Conservative Christian ▶
Red State
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Godless Blue State apostasy

Go for it, champ.

Can't tell me I snipped off that much of your raisin sized testes.

Or was that your brain?

And look, he/she/zhe is back to people's genitals again....seriously, its just weird at this point your infatuation with genitalia, and your obsession to constantly reference genital mutilation is really really creepy.

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Sure I shrunk your nuts back up into your anus, but that doesn't mean you can't answer the question.

Oh, wait, it does.

you are projecting your own religious convictions,and political leanings onto the radical religious right.

I know many Christian conservatives who think/feel just as you do.
however,
there is a portion of the Christian population who are radical in their execution in their political life.they actively seek to infiltrate and impose "Christian law" into the American body politic.

we can trace this back to the late 70's when the republican party co-opted the very popular televangelists to convince their "flock" to engage in political life.something that churches had never really done,for multiple reasons,separation of church and state being only one of them.

so what is almost common place now,church organizations pushing hard for a particular party (mainly republican,but not always),was unheard of prior to the late 70's.

pat Robertson and his liberty university has been laser fcused on producing graduates to enter government with the specific purpose of influencing legislation to promote "Christian values".and this is only one example.i could regale you all day on this matter...and it is a matter of concern.

you can go back to the 60's and see that the majority of republicans were pro-choice.they were of the opinion that abortion was not the governments business,and was a personal responsibility.which is pretty in line with their core ideology.

you can see that flip on itself by the early 80's.with religious personalities such as jimmy swaggart,jim bakker,oral Roberts,james Dobson and the mother of all radicals:jerry falwell.

this is the main reason why we see so many "Christian value voters" or to be more accurate "the moral brigade" trying to inject Christian laws by hook or by crook.

the radical religious right:exists.

Enoch I admitted up at the top that there are those who wish and attempt to legislate Christianity, and I said that was wrong.

The point was that there can be overlap between religious morals and politics, but its not necessarily true that religion dictate political action.

Vagablonde appears to be insisting that conservatives have not made an argument for traditional marriage that doesn't rely on theism. This simply isn't true.

i was replying to your first comment..i think...pretty sure..
but the chat system on this site is so damn clunky.

so i missed you pointing that out,which is fair trade.

"Vagablonde appears to be insisting that conservatives have not made an argument for traditional marriage that doesn't rely on theism. This simply isn't true."

Agreed, your lie isn't true because I said no such thing.
In fact I said nothing even remotely hinting marriage at all.

Your projection yet again speaks for itself, since your bogus statement is a lame attempt to preemptively deflect any talk about ye olde old common Conservative Christian stance on marriage, one that bringing up would almost be redundant given how overused and lame it it. God made Adam and Eve not Steve is so 1980s and currently irrelevent under man's law.

If you're going to lie, do it right.

This is cute, and yet incredibly sad.

Yes, your religious views and political views can have overlap. For instance, gay marriage. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but I also don't believe that I should be able to legislate my moral view via citation of scripture. Meaning, I can still stand for traditional marriage on the merits of arguments outside theism.

Certainly, there are those who do attempt to actually legislate biblical morality, and that is wrong. However, citing the example of gay marriage, hardly proves your case, as you can see, there are other arguments that support traditional marriage.

So yes, I would agree that you know different people than I do.

The "other arguments" consiting of some you say you're saving up your sleeve for a rainy day?

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Its called reading, I know it scares you, but I assure you, those groupings of funny symbols (which we call words) won't hurt. Well, at least not physically hurt you. It is highly possible however, given your tendency indulge in the dumb shall we say, that you may develop a small headache.

Yes there are arguments for multiple things that coincide with religious morals, yet there are supporting arguments for laws outside of theism.

Lets take a simple example. The right to life, is legally protected by outlawing murder. This coincides with the commandment "Thou shall not kill". Yet we don't appear to believe that the laws for murder were promulgated out of adherence to the Bible.

Hopefully that simplistic example was digestible for your sensitive mental faculties. However, should your head start to hurt, fret not, just apply ice. The pain will eventually subside.

The reason for your comstant resorting to ad hominems and deflections are glaringly obvious, but in case you are oblivious to that as well:

When cornered into finally faking an argument, you allude to some argument which you have but won't state because, well, you know, you're so clever and that, therefore, is all that's required. And so if anyone was as clever as you, they would already be aware of your argument because it consists of nothing - which is, after all, the level of your astounding 'cleverness.'

The Commandement is "Thou shalt not MURDER," not "kill," and is thus the reason behind laws against murder without justifiable cause yet allowing for killing for reasons of self defense, capital punsihment, and war. Since abortion can be nudged either way across that line depending on interpretation of what is murder, that 'right' (rights magically bestowed unto us by the powers of creation) is the cause of contention.

All, including the arguments for and against, framed by Christianity. Period.

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Really you're complaining of ad hominems when the first thing out of your mouth is such a comment? Standard liberal procedure of accusing people of behavior they indulge in.

I don't have to state the argument, of which they are well documented, that gay marriage is defensible by conservatives outside the citation of scripture. You simply have chosen to demand the argument, while its NOT incumbent upon me to present it. What the arguments presents as, the actual argument, is not relevant, what is relevant is that the arguments have been made.

I called this into example with highlighting our laws regarding murder and the commandment to not kill (kill/murder semantics). Christians believe in the commandment not to murder, just as not to steal, and presumably most conservatives also agree with the laws that are meant to address such crimes. Their support however, while it may overlap with their religious morals, is not presumed to arise from their religion, and no one accuses Christians of enacting their religion in policy in those cases. However, with gay marriage, the faith of conservatives is ALWAYS presumed to be the standing for their support of traditional marriage.

So lets try again for you slow brain.

I stated, there can be overlap between religious morals and politics, but its not necessarily true that religion dictate political action. As there are a multitude of examples.

tl;dr

Get back to me when you finally whip up this imaginary argument, you raging inbred Trumputin pube licking f**ktard.

Congrats, you're an even bigger idiot than Grind.

STILL looking for your imaginary argument?

Golly.

Go back to sleep.

Your ignorance to the argument does not remove the argument from existence.

Yeah cuz' crooked Hillary was obviously so much better. Just ask any moron.