Fraud Machine

So true. Electoral College works well. Has benefited all parties.

The electoral college vote and the popular vote have differed 5 times.

The first time was in 1824, in which all of the people running were Democratic Republicans. Andrew Jackson, who won the popular vote but came second in the electoral college, started the Democratic Party in protest of what he called a "corrupt bargain" that placed John Quincy Adams in the presidency.

The other four (1876, 1888, 2000, and 2016) all placed Republicans in the presidency while Democrats earned the popular vote.

But sure, it benefits all parties.

Correction: Jackson did indeed have the most electoral votes with Adams second, but since he didn't have enough for the required majority, the decision went to the House of Representatives, who elected Adams.

Oops.

You're only looking at the irrelevant outliers where the popular vote differed... My point is that it's fair for all parties and they all benefit by winning some of the races. The results are not skewed toward any one party, but toward making the election completely fair at the state level (where it belongs).

Contrary to modern thinking, we're still a united group of independent sovereign states. Each state is NOT a subunit of the country. The country is a collective of states. HUGE important distinction.

Not fair at any level. The Electoral College is a winner take all in all but 2 States, meaning within each State the winning candidate is awarded the votes the other candates had won, in effect nulling those votes.

Add to that redistricting, and the Electoral College is UNFAIR at the State and local level, contradicting the argument those in support use since the choice and voice of those not in the majority is silenced.

The USA basically ceased being a federation of sovereign states after the end on the Civil War. Expansion of big goverment to reduce resistance, placate the masses who feel lesser than more prominent and important States, and fund the now terminally moribund economies of a slave deprived South was felt to be a necessity. That's when we started calling ourselves Americans instead of Virginians and New Yorkers, etc.

If anyone thinks there is no voter fraud, just show up to any polling place in Chester PA.. Bring a bullet proof vest tho, its the murder cap for the usa for small cities.

When I hear a Republican complain about the popular vote, my mind hears "we're insecure about how convincing our arguments really are."

Then you should clean your ears out because you're hearing correctly at all.

I can't help but notice you only said that to me and not to the OP.

Directed where due.

"klkitchens_memer

Then you should clean your ears out because you're hearing correctly at all."

Agreed.

btw, are any of you even capable of comprehending what you post?

Read what you said, S-L-O-W-L-Y

LOL... yes, you're NOT hearing correctly. :)

You left the word "not" out, thus changing the meaning, you sad doink.

You are correct... which is why you JUST replied to my correction and clarify the originally intended truth. Sheesh... untie your panties.

English isn't your first language, is it?

Why, would you like to put my panties on?

"No. You corrected nothing."

You've (again) had something explained to you and you just keep being obtuse. No help for you when you're deliberately wallowing in your ignorance.

No idea what your nonsense is as always. I left out a "NOT" I corrected it. You whined about it some more. As usual you have no valid argument, just inane insults.

Pretending you said it when you did not is not correcting it.
1. It's lying.
2. It just adds more to the stupid.

"Pretending you said it when you did not is not correcting it."

What are you babbling about? I never pretended I didn't say it.. I LOL'd at my error and corrected it. Reading is fundamental. Learn how. No go away.

No. You corrected nothing.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!