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Interesting way to look at it.

See my above response

Its different. Obamas weren't to (unconstitutionally) go around Congress, they were in actual emergencies. The southern border is not an emergency.
Emergency:
a serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action.
The Southern Border Crisis isnt unexpected at all. Congress has decided not to fund a wall, and Congress decides funding. Whatever the motives, it isnt an emergency. Did Obama use his emergency powers to go around congress?

Hold on son,The Number 1 cause of death in ppl under 60 in Philadelphia is Fenytenol deaths including my GF's grandchildren's father . I have known 9 ppl in the past 2 yrs including my bff's son. All those drugs come from the southern boarder.
Every politicians and past presidents are calling it an "Emergency"
The wall wont stop all of them but will stop a good portion of them
Also there are thousands of ppl coming across the boarder every year.
Most of them just want a better life but many criminals come across.
If its just the cost of the wall thats the problem, why not let trump do it, and if he fails make a bet with him, resign etc.
The illegals cost the US tax payer Billions. Period . That is money that could help the poor already here.

I agree with a wall, even though most drugs and illegals come from legal ports. The problem is not the wall but that he is going around Congress, who has funding authority. Not saying Trump is a dictator, but this certainly resembles a first step, and is setting a bad precedent. An emergency is when funding is needed quickly, it is unforeseen. Our southern border causes death and tragedy, but it isn't an emergency. A national emergency is not for getting around the proper legal process.
Plus your Fentanyl is coming from China, not the Southern border. https://www.statnews.com/2018/01/24/china-fentanyl-usps/
Historically these situations are what leaders use to grasp more power. What if a liberal declares guns a national emergency. So many people are killed. I'm sure you would be outraged.

first off Trump tried to go through congress and they said No.It is his Job to protect the nation. If someone said to tear down the walls at fort knox, that would be insane right? Drugs are coming from China via the southern boarder. Trump is doing what the ppl want,trumps approval 52%,(CBS poll) Congress approval under 20%.

So retarded. How is that a "national emergency" to get involved with other countries!?

You said it not me, why dont you ask BHO?

Guess where else a President used National Emergencies to Circumvent Congress/Parliament

Luckily we've been a republic since people still fought with muskets and cavalry and sailing ships were still the big thing. Even if you go past the founding of the republic, Magna Carta and British law were giving rights to citizens in our culture for 800 years. You Germans only gave up autocracy within the last century. And failed the first time around. Sorry, but I don't think I'll take advice on democracy from a country that's still in its infancy historically speaking.

What are you on about? I am talking about how Hitler managed to dissolve parliament by claiming a National Emergency. I never gave advice nor did I state that German Democracy is inherently better (Though see as you have had Democracy for some time now I do wonder why Germany is thrice as safe, has a better Healthcare system and not a two party Democracy. Mayhaps you've been around longer, but we've learned from your mistakes and our own)

Actually you've failed to learn nearly any lessons from history, judging by the actions of your leadership. Germany is another tyranny waiting to happen. I give it less than 50 years before your country is back to true form.

Oh really? Based on what? You mean Merkel's "Wir Schaffen das!"? The AfD? Chemnitz? I never said Germany is flawless, just has less obvious flaws than America. Yes, Any second now Merkel will declare total Hegemony over Europe, Swastikas will fly all over Europe and Yadda yadda yadda. I Give America 50 years before its over come by China or the EU.

Maybe China.. though they're currently getting trounced by us in a trade war. The EU isn't even really considered a contender, sorry to break it to you. And by the looks of it, you're bleeding GDP like a stuck pig and are even more politically unstable than we are. I'll be surprised if the EU even LASTS 50 years.

Hmm I do admit that the EU isn't the most... united... of Organisations, but its combined Economic power is nothing to scoff at and easily rivals the US. As to our supposed bleeding Economies... What the hell are you on about? Last I checked European economies were mostly growing with a few exceptions *Looks at Balkans* , Hell, Germany's economy alone has on just started to slow down, in accordance with predictions.

Though I have to admit, with the American President all but stabbing Europe in the back multiple times, Russian meddling and the growing Chinese influence on the world wide market, I fear for the EU and for what would happen after. The EU is the single most largest and most successful Union of independent countries there has ever been. The EU has few peers in the History of this Planet and is a stabalizing power that prevents the Wars of Old in Europe. Even with it many flaws, the EU is still an impressive achievement with few comparisons.

The again you don't know the difference between Social Democracy and Socialism, think Merkel is either a Fascist or Socialist, think the EU is the Soviet Union reborn and probably many other thing, so I dobt know why I bother with you! Oh well!

The EU isn't even KEEPING all the EU economies. What difference does growth make when such a large chunk of your economy is about to go out the door, and likely to be followed by others? Any gains you make will be offset by countries leaving the union because they're tired of being dictated to by the commission. The EU is the most successful union of countries there has ever been? I'd say the Soviet Union outshined you BY FAR while it was around. The united states was originally framed as a Union of 13 sovereign states, many which have different cultural aspects or even linguistic differences. We'll see how long it lasts for you. I seriously doubt you'll manage even the 70-80 years the soviets did.

"Any gains you make will be offset by countries leaving the union because they're tired of being dictated to by the commission"

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Hmm yes, thats why Britains all but on fire, the pound's lost 14% of its value. As I have said before and say again Britain is a stark reminder of what happens when you leave the EU. You get f**ked up the arse is what happens. No, Your argument depends on the EU faltering and Brexit being a catalyst for the down fall of the EU. Something that clearly will not happen.

"being dictated to by the commission"

Oh no, the all powerful Commission. Why have yee don upon us thee? Its not like they are apointed by the Democratically elected Parliament or
that they are reigned in by said parliament or anything. Absolutly Dictatorial and has complete power over Europe.

"I'd say the Soviet Union outshined you BY FAR while it was around. The united states was originally framed as a Union of 13 sovereign states"

Now the U.S. I'll grant you. The Soviet Union on the other hand is just a Dictatorial State disguised as what the EU is supposed to be. It litterally has the word Socialist in it. That being said It's still has few Peers. And still has more Cultures and languages than the American Colonies. Really It is after all modeled after the U.S.

"70-80 years the soviets did."

Right becahse you of all people are an expert on the subject.

Right, Whatever. Go on now. Do whatever it is you do in your time off of the internet

Wouldn't work due to technological limitations and logistical nightmares? America is bigger than the EU and we managed it before there was even electricity or automobiles. What a weak excuse.

Well America is an actual country for one and has a more coherent Voting system. The shit that goes into planning Parliamentary elections is frankly headache inducing. The EU is an 'Economic Union' with a bit over two dozen independent full time members, each with their own language, government and Electoral system. Organizing Europe wide Elections is already hard as is and thats only for the EU Parliament. The total population of EU memebers combined is about 512.6 Million. Almost 200 Million more than the U.S. And with the fact that they are dispersed among the Memeber states you would have to establish voting sites all over Europe, man them equip them. The you'd have to count those votes. Lets not get into how one would go about canidating for the Presidency, how the Campaigns would be managed. Its frankly a Can of worms that should be opend but is very inconvinent and expensive. Lets not forget the Logistical nightmare that is coordinating with more than five countries, nothing said of two dozen. Honestly, the EU should be mlre Democratic than it is, but it could be worse.

69 years, whatever. I didn't bother doing the math. The EU itself didn't even exist until the Soviet Union was already a memory, unless you're going to pretend that the economic cooperation treaty was a "union" in which case I'll laugh at you for the attempt at twisting history.

As far as britain getting f**ked up the ass.. have you actually looked at the numbers? They did take a significant hit directly following the referendum, but their economy as of RIGHT NOW is stronger than it was beforehand - growth slowed due to them having to regain lost ground, but they've hardly had a total crash. That you actually believe they have just shows how brainwashed you are. And yes, the commission is an absolute joke for an organization claiming to be even more democratic than the USA. You are LITERALLY ruled over by an oligarchy of non-elected bureaucrats. Ones that have ALREADY ignored the results of democratic referendums they didn't approve of.

"EU itself didn't even exist until the Soviet Union was already a memory"

Okay? I don't understand your point here

"Have you actually looked at the numbers"

Yes, as a matter of fact I have. And tha facts support that Britain is as a matter of fact doing worse over all as Companies are mkre reluctant to invest in Britain, it has gotten and still has the slowest growing economy in the G7, Infaltion has hit British wages as they compensate for the value loss of the pound-sterling and the border situation in Ireland is looking grim. Honestly the only piece of good I found were two things. Frankfurt may become Europes economic center after Brexit (Which is Great. Go Brexit!) and British full-tine employment is up.

"And yes, the commission is an absolute joke for an organization claiming to be even more democratic than the USA."

Really? They claim that? Huh. Well nvm. The EU-Commission is Elected by the EU-Parliament, which is elected by the people from the Political parties of individual contries. Candidates for the Commission are proposed by the EU-Council. It could do one better and just have Europe elect the leader of the Commission, or the "President of Europe" *Snicker*, but sadly it won't work due to technological limitations and logistical nightmares.

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