Not like forcing me to believe is it?

I dealt with parts per billion in a past life, it takes a micro brain to think on this scale, for which I am eminently qualified. CO2 has been much higher in the past- in excess of 2000 ppm and life thrived (age of the dinosaurs if you will), CO2 is essential for life. It has been as low as 200 ppm and life struggled (post extinction if you will)- like most science dealing with what happened millions of years ago, it's a guess, but through geology, we have a number of touchstones to base our guesses off of. Let's put 400 ppm in perspective. I did this a while ago imgflip.com/i/2nq3ff
It takes crediting CO2 with much more affect than it has by a tactic, Climate Changers call it forcing- in short, they dismiss the warming affects of the sun, and they make CO2 into a super mirror that only reflects heat back to earth, but allows it to pass through from the sun. Logic says that it would equally reflect back to space what it reflects back to earth, essentially balancing. The battle for the earth is loss of heat to deep space radiation- heat moves to cold- thermodynamics. Climate temperatures are more influenced by water vapor- a significantly higher % of the atmosphere and the very nature of the water cycle moderates the temperatures of the earth.
People will point to the Vostok Ice Cores as the definitive measurement of CO2 levels, however, ice (like water and oil and gas bearing formations) is both porous and permeable, with differing gases able to migrate out at varying rates. Think about it- ice forms when temperatures drop and CO2 levels are at their lowest, plant activity is negligible then. Mauna Loa is the supposed benchmark for world CO2 levels, yet it is on an active volcano belching CO2 at varying rates- increasing recently as we find from the homes recently burned up by it erupting on Hawaii. Not all is as it seems. The world is just fine.

In another life, I did calculations on how much CO2 mankind has added to the atmosphere from carbon based fuels. Oil and gas is easy, there are accurate records that put our worldwide consumption at just under a trillion barrels equivalent. Calculating with the highest CO2 discharge rates (low grade diesel), we haven't added that much to the atmosphere. Coal is harder to estimate because of the lack of production rates, but even it dosen't add up when you figure at the highest possible levels with the dirtiest coal (peat). When climate change deluders are asked about the natural absorption of CO2 by plant and algae life, they have concocted the absurd concept that plants can tell the difference between man made and so called natural sources (oil and coal are about as natural as it gets- organic material synthesized by the forces of nature) and thus rejects more than half of the man made CO2 Acky acky poo poo, the is CO2 tastes bad. This CO2 is just right. Fact- earthworms in the rain forest regions of the earth produce more CO2 than mankind by a factor of at least 5. The whole climate change debacle is a house of cards, and when they howl settled science- know this- science is never settled ore we would still believe the universe revolves around the earth (a reasonable conclusion based on observation), bad gas would cause plagues and other settled concepts. When they say 999 out of 1000 scientists agree, they neglect to report that through so called peer review, contrary findings are suppressed and those who prevent differing science are viciously attacked and destroyed- sounds like a familiar tactic for political opposition. Then when you hear that the solution is a tax- oh my that's a certainly scientific solution. the world is fine. (Side note- Peak oil theory was started about 5 years after the first commercial oilfield was developed near Titusville, PA - fact oceans cover about 70% of the face of the earth, much of the oil and gas we extract comes from ancient sea beds0 5% of the oceans have been explored- the world is fine).

should read "those who pre(s)ent differing science" Thanks autofill!

You should come with me to Washington DC and see AOC. You explain this to her, I'll be munching on my popcorn as she contorts, and her head swells till it explodes like overripe roadkill. It will be great, you'll see!

I fly nearly from coast to coast on a regular basis, by observation you can see some traces of smog downwind of some cities, but in the late summer of 2015 there were such intense wildfires in the Pacific Northwest that due to the smoke you could not see the ground from 35,000 feet from Ohio to Utah (and probably further west of course, but I didn't fly any further). If you are willing to check, you'll find forest fires emit more pollutants in a shorter amount of time than all the pollutants of mankind in a year. As mentioned elsewhere, single volcanoes emit more pollutants than all man made activities. Earthworms emit more CO2 than all mankind. Remember the acid rain crisis? It started after Mt. St. Helens erupted, you can look at satellite images of the area impacted by the plume, and other satellite images of the area supposedly impacted by coal burning power plants (which were downwind from the impacted areas) and the acid rain affected areas and there is a perfect overlap. Legislation was enacted to ban the use of eastern coal, and before the ban even went into full effect, the crisis was resolved. Remember the ozone hole crisis? Supposed to be caused by the very heavy, ground hugging CFC molecules from refrigerants wreaking havoc in the far reaches of the ozone layer?. A ban was put in place, the US changed refrigerants and the crisis ended- only what no one says is that 85% of the world continued to manufacture and use CFCs up until a year or so ago. To think humans have this immense power over nature is a fallacy. Maybe we could focus it on tornadoes and hurricanes and eliminate the damage and loss of life. Right. What is teh correct temperature for the earth? Remember we have arctic and scorching desert regions, should they be equal? And what the hell, after all the environmental legislation enacted things have only gotten worse? Let's just give up now, for tomorrow we die. the earth is too fragile to sustain life. Crap, I shouldn't have written that when I was drinking milk...........

You claim to be an expert at everything Octavia, yet your typical answer when someone schools you and you not have anything else to day about the matter due to your poor level of education. As a matter of fact a single erupting massive volcano can do more climate change in one day than humans in a millenia. Keep watching that brain washing media of yours. Free yourself, get out of Cali dear. Fresh air will do good to you.

It is not that you claimed, more like your actions my dear. Actions speak louder than words. So you act like you know it all, and your default behavior when you lose and argument is to claim that you are not an expert so people then will stop schooling you. You told us like 2 years ago that you are from Cali. Did that changed? I know lots of people are moving out of that shithole...

Please. You set aside facts on a REGULAR basis because they don't comply with your world view. The only reason anyone would do such a thing is because they think they're smarter than the people presenting the information. Thus, you think you're an expert at everything. In fact I'm not sure I've EVER seen you accept that you were wrong about something. You deflect and IF you finally get presented with an argument you absolutely can't refute, you just vanish. No response, nothing.