A recent poll on Fox News

taxation is theft

Taxation are the dues you pay to live in a country. With borders. And streets. And garabage pickup. Schools.

But private companies can provide the same services at a much higher quality and rate, so with that you wouldn't have to pay any taxes to the government.

Fire protection services are as a whole a community service, so it's going to be best when owned by local owners.

1) I never agreed to live in your society.

2) roads are built by private contracting and construction companies, you can literally pay to build roads out of pocket.

3)borders are immoral

4)garbage is picked up by garbage companies … which can and usually are paid for out of pocket by companies and towns

5)private schools are more efficient.

1) Then move. Yemen is nice, I hear.
2) The "out of pocket" costs for paving your own roads is stupefying. And without a central plan, those roads become a chaotic mess. Then there's the "you don't get to drive on my road!" idea. How are you going to stop people you don't want using your road from using it? And then how to you propose building that road on someone else's land?
3) interesting idea, you should spend some time in thought on it and expand it.
4) yeah. private companies that are paid by...the towns. Which get the money from your taxes.
5) provably not.

re: 1) Perhaps Somalia instead, since most of it (outside the self declared "Somaliland") has no gov't and he's an anarchist.

Ah, thank you, it was Somalia I was thinking of.

Are you aware of the fact that Somalia isn't doing well because it's culture encourages many shitty things like genital mutilation, killing of homosexuals, etc? Culture is going to affect how the government and economy works. Now companies would have to act in the interest of people by making central plans for roads, so that money they make from people buying their products will carry over to what they need to build a road.

No problems, it was just since Yemen does have a central goverment still in a few buildings in the remnants of what used to be a town near the Saudi border.

1) I have no reason to move to yemen, just let me be.

2) you don't build roads on other peoples lands, crowd funded roads belong to the community as a whole, private roads and drives exist and work correctly what you have stated is fearmongering, contractors build roads according to blueprints and measurements so chaos is out of the question, also here is a website with several companies https://www.manta.com/mb_35_E026X000_000/highway_and_street_construction

3)borders are immoral when the govt initiates them as it restricts access to public and unowned land, private property however is different as it is owned solely by the individual.

4)private companies that collect garbage for a fee, you can easily pay bolsters or Sullivan's to pick up trash from your house, its very easy. also taxes don't have to be used, crowd funding is allowed

5) observably so, they are more efficient.

Okay. So I understand: you want to disolve central governments that collect taxes to build roads. You want to replace them with crowdfunded projects that use public land?

How is this land declared public?

its unowned. therfore its public

Sounds like islam

how the hell?

public-private differences already exist in our society.

a sidewalk is public, a driveway is private

this isnt that hard ti understand, come on, use your brain

You spelled "to" wrong.
Use your brain.
Tough luck pal
Hahaha

good way to dodge my point,

Then what's to stop me from saying that's my land?
And then how do we decide on what roads are built?
then how do we pay for them?
and then who makes sure they're built to spec?

1) if its unowned, then claim it. Nothings stopping you, just make sure to tell people about how its your land now and expect backlash if it causes disruptions.

2)you can ask the towns committee (if one is still present) To call for a local pooling contest. Ask people to pay money toward a specific road design and whoever raises the most money (the bare minimum most likely) then that road shall be built, its the most fair way possible without democratic votes. You funded it, therefore it shall be built.

3)the contractors will make sure its built properly, thats how they have ALWAYS done things, its literally in their job description.

1) If they don't have documetns to prove I don't own it. I own it.
2) How are you collecting those votes? How are the proposals going to be posted and where?
3) you clearly have never hired anyone to do a job.

1) correct. unless someone else has documents proving THEY own it.

2) town offices exist for a reason, its where the locals meet to discuss town issues. Well, at least that's how us New Englanders do things.

3)are you saying that people who's job it is to correctly build roads, cannot comprehend how to do such a thing?

then tell me, whats the point of having the govt pay for the roads then? the roads will just be built wrong,

If you don't want to live in this society, then I advise you to live in a different one outside America instead.

I personally believe that public funding is essential for a functional society. If everything was privately funded, then this society would be barely functional. You can't just live in the U.S. for free. That's just not how it works.

Poor people are stupid.

Mind you. But I personally don't believe that intelligence depends on how much money you have. It just doesn't make any sense. Jesus didn't have a lot of money. Yet he was wise. And he actually was for the idea of helping the poor. Let that sink in.

Also, labelling people as stupid for being low-income is just cruel and disrespectful. Some people are poor because they have no choice, you know.

I, and others, would appreciate it if you were more accepting and respectful.

Maybe I'd take you seriously on a different account fuzzy boy.

It's true, there are very intelligent poor people. However, the amount of stupid poor people greatly outnumbers the amount of intelligent ones. This poll is an example of the stupidity and jealousy of the unintelligent masses. Poor people pay almost no percentage of US taxes yet they sit there and demand that the people who do contribute to US taxes pay even more.

As the Canadians say: sorry, not sorry about calling the greedy stupid masses stupid.

HAHA!

Can you possibly tell me where you got that information? Is it a reliable news source according to the media bias chart?

If you remain poor in this society for this long you aren't good with money.

And that's your own opinion. We all have our own opinions.

Let's be civilized and respectful to one another for once. It would good for our sanity to avoid heated debates that often result poorly. Politics is a very personal topic after all.

Will you be willing to have a civil discussion next time we have a debate?

Actually, never mind. You're disrespectful towards me and my friends. And I feel nasty trying to be nice to you. Any "peace" between us is unlikely.

"You're disrespectful towards me and my friends." How? I'm willing to put any ill will we had behind us. Btw I never said you and Vagabond were the same guy.

Here's the thing, trying to appease those like these 2 whose sole purpose is to antagonize "you leftists" works, yes, WORKS.

Grind just said his shit is smarter than you, and your stalker DrDrainedFart has posted a good 2, on occasion 3, entire comments a day since you've taken to ignoring the sad troll, just like I told you he would.

Mind you, when you went MIA, he went around bragging that he vanquished your ass out of here. He then turned his attention to me, because, as he and Grind tells everyone, I am supposed to be you.

Want to be civil? Good, be civil with those who can be civil, not asswipes like these 2 self loathing predatory miscreants.

Oh.

Sorry, don't mean to be harsh, but do you think these asswipes are going to change because you show them respect? Like anything, those like them take that as weakness.

It took you how many months of harrassment from this stalker fanboy for you to finally get it last month? And when it dawned on you I was right, his harrassment did what? Ended. Period.

And skip the, "no probs, I'll deal with it" because you and the Vaga pit bull substitute know otherwise.

I'm still waiting on that link.

I'm still waiting on that screenshot.

And your proof I'm a self loathing predatory miscreant?

Also when you said " when you went MIA, he went around bragging that he vanquished your ass out of here." When did I say that?

It came straight out of my ass. Fortunately I make turds with more intellectual value than any comment that has ever been posted on your account.

If poor people are so smart, they really ought to make more money. Instead they can't do algebra or read a sentence out loud without stammering. Oh, then they say the rich need to pay more taxes so their poor asses can get free healthcare. Na screw um.

Hopefully our education system gets fixed soon so their children have a shot at better lives and higher intelligences.

I personally think you are horribly wrong. But, it's only an opinion. I have my opinions and you have yours. It's better if we respect each other's opinions and move on with our lives. After all, arguments over topics personal as politics often result poorly.

Unfortunately the turds you make are the closest you can get to anything having any value, and that's only to fertilize the outhouse.

YOU'RE poor. YOU live in a poor area - by the Texas border, no less. Renowned, no doubt, as the grate State of Texas is for its contribution to academia and intellectual discourse yadda yadda is it true the heat there kills brain cells or is that just the result of years of inbreeding with some hybridization courtesy of the cattle y'all miscegenate with and gosh damn you yokels are a delightful bunch of cretins.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Nice one.

Thanks.

oughta*