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5 ups, 5y,
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We have enough humans. No need to add a bunch of unwanted humans
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5 ups, 5y,
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What I am saying is that I don't get to decide if that human is wanted, nor do you.
Overturning Roe V Wade is going to have widespread consequences.
Most, if not all, which will be negative.
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4 ups, 5y,
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Repeat offenders? You want to limit a woman's choice to abort only once in a lifetime?
Overpopulation is part of it, why are you concentrating on just that part?
You aren't thinking about all the consequences that will come due with overturning Roe V Wade.
1 up, 5y,
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"We have enough humans. No need to add a bunch of unwanted humans."

I am focusing on what you said here and what you hinted at on another meme about abortions. I just want to hear you say it. Stop humming and hawing and say what you mean. Unless I am mistaken about what you mean.

"What prolifers never ever take into account is those 60m that were aborted not being able to abort and pretty quickly we have added another 250m unwanted humans."

You are hinting at overpopulation but are not coming out and making it clear. I want to know if that is what you are meaning.
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3 ups, 5y,
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I just said that overpopulation is a part of it. A PART OF IT.
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4 ups, 5y,
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You want a drag on society? That is what a massive number of unwanted humans will bring.
It is difficult enough to raise a productive member of society, just imagine raising one that isn't wanted in the first place.
You do realize that some of those unwanted babies are going to become rapists and murderers right? In fact they will become more frequent simply because they weren't wanted in the first place.
I don't give a f**k about your moral compass.
0 ups, 5y,
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I am not certain if you read further than my second sentence as it seems that is all you replied to. I had hoped you might have something to say regarding the bulk of my comment....
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3 ups, 5y
I read the whole thing. What specific do you want me to comment on?
I don't care what you call that thing that can be aborted, makes no difference to me at all. Human, child, fetus just words
0 ups, 5y,
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I thought someone like you would think it is a good idea but getting answers out of you is rather difficult.
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3 ups, 5y
So you want to change the subject from abortion to capital punishment in the hopes you can catch me in a "gotcha".
Capital punishment is ok by me. Just realize that some that have been wrongly convicted have been, and will be in the future, executed.
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3 ups, 5y
Also there is less than 3 thousand people on death row. Killing them all is not going to save a whole lot of taxpayer money.
Compare that to the >500 thousand abortions.
It will cost society a lot more and in a lot more ways if Roe V Wade gets overturned than your concern over <3 thousand individuals
1 up, 5y
No it is not like that.
Although I admit I like using the conversation on abortion to bring to light other issues.
Unlike most people though you agree with capital punishment. Ironic isn't it, how people are all gung-ho about abortions. But they turn pale at the notion of capital punishment.
Yes you have valid points regarding abortion. But how much more valid is it regarding criminals like rapists and vile murderers. That is what I can't figure out with most people.
In any case I throw it out for others to think about. Because I feel it is not fair to allow such things like abortions for the reasons you mentioned and not allow capital punishment for largely the same reasons. To me it is like choking on a gnat and swallowing a mammoth.
And I like to see justice served. Allowing the perp to go free to commit more crimes is not justice.

Look up a guy named Abdullah White. He murdered the cousin of my classmate some years ago. And according to the newspaper that murder was not White's first murder. He was actually in jail for another murder but got out on payroll, or something like that. In any case he became a repeat offender by killing again because he was released.

The same crimes may be repeated. But they don't have to be repeated by the same person. This is the principle of "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."
People likes to blame someone or something whenever heinous crimes like rape and vile murder is committed. But when it comes to repeat offenders, the ones most at fault are the ones who allowed their release.
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3 ups, 5y,
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0 ups, 5y,
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Yes, those are crimes, and should be punished, but assault and giving someone a drug without their consent are not murder in and of themselves (and by the logic of pro-choice people this isn't murder either - I say both are because I am pro-life).

I am pointing out the double standard that when a woman has an abortion it's not considered murder but if the man makes her miscarry the man gets charged with murder. The double standard is that it's a bunch of cells - the "my body, my choice" nonsense when a woman wants an abortion, but if a man makes it happen when the woman doesn't want it he's considered a murderer who's killed a baby. See the double standard?
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0 ups, 5y,
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1 up, 5y
It sadly can happen and has several times. For reference.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/man-forces-girlfriend-to-have-an-unwanted-abortion-charged-with-murder/
http://articles.latimes.com/1994-05-17/news/mn-58803_1_murder-case

To reiterate, what he did was horribly wrong. I'm pointing out the double standard at work against men.
4 ups, 5y,
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So you think it would be fair for a woman to drug a man and give him a vasectomy. Okay.
0 ups, 5y
I just double-checked the message SPatoine.
If you were responding to me - no, do not put words in my mouth. I do not think that would be fair, a woman forcing a vasectomy on a man is wrong, but it wouldn't be murder.
If you were responding to OctaviaMelody, that's between you and her.
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IF A WOMAN HAVING AN ABORTION DURING HER FIRST TRIMESTER ISN'T MURDER... WHY IS IT MURDER IF A MAN MAKES A WOMAN IN HER FIRST TRIMESTER MISCARRY BY HITTING HER OR GIVING HER PLAN B?