it's not that socialism doen't work, it's that socialism is evil.

And why farming has become a socialist practice in the US.
As a response to what happened back then, they are still heavily subsidized. Without such subsidies modern farming in the US wouldn't be a thing, and our food would cost way more as well.

Just because I enjoy bacon does not mean that I am going to start raising hogs. While our system makes use of some socialist solutions to certain probelms that is not an endorsement of going whole hog and adopting a socialist system.

That's a cop out.

Just beacuse I like bacon (and sausage) taxpayers have to pay for hog farmers too lazy to raise their own hogs like they used too. Their kids stay inside with their xbox's while illegals are illegally hired at illegal substandard wages. They're so lazy, they're selling off the family farm at an alarming rate when they inherit it, because on occasion they might have to break a sweat making sure their illegals are toiling hard enough doing their work for them.

In addition, the resulting lowered food prices lead to cheap food that has turned Americans into the most obese people on earth, as well as allow for a third of produce to be thrown away simply because it is not aesthetically pleasing enough.

Eliminate subsidies, you will eliminate waste of tax revenue, waste of food, obesity, a major sector for the exploitation of illegal aliens, and lack of ambition and laziness with our own.

No matter which way you look at it, this is a multi pronged example of why socialism is bad.

It's late here, and maybe I'm not at my best. It sounds like you're against socialism. I make a distinction between socialist solutions to certain problems (such as central banking) and a socialist system. You seem to be very much against farm subsidies. I have no problem with ending them. Are you saying farm subsidies are a socialist solution, and Americans railing against socialism are in denial regarding how many situations are like this? If so, you'd better sit down: we agree on something.

I think that is a very different thing, however, from becoming a socialist state. And I do not agree with what A. O-C. wants the country to become.

Had one of these yesterday. I don't like Trump, so therefore I must want to dig up Stalin and make him President.
By the time I'm through convincing them I'm not being facetious, they start listing all the non-socialist socialist programs they stand for, which basically is everything except welfare and medicaid for poor people because abortion is a sin but who wants them around when they're not fetuses anymore?
I'm even against insurance and loans. You can camp out 3 days to pay mega bucks for this month's iPad? You can pay for your own doctor with your own money. Same thing with mortgages. Work hard, save up, THEN buy a house. Just like they did in the good old days.

Farm subsidies are welfare. Tax deductions are welfare. Trump not paying taxes is welfare. Getting a tax break to shut a factory down here and getting subsidized to rebuild it in socialist communist Marxist Maoist China is welfare plus. When Bruce Springsteen doesn't put out an album and doesn't go on tour, he gets tax refunds in the millions - MILLIONS - of dollars to make up for what he would have made that year if he wasn't busy lying by his pool for the year. That's way beyond welfare.

Prove Obama wrong, pay for it yourself, build it yourself.

We depend on illegal aliens to keep our economy and gluttonous lifestyles afloat. How stupid is that?