Who's Money is it Really?

Think about it, if you needed weapons but didn't want LE or Government to find out, you know where to go looking, Cartels. So as a group you start moving against single operatives or smaller groups and taking their weapons. Get some organization and take back what is yours by force. If the Government moves against you for doing so well then you ask the UN for help to handle your corrupt Government while you finish attacking the cartels. There has to be some former LE or Former Military who aren't corrupt and who are wanting to do something.

Don't go talking about the pride of your country, if you aren't even willing to fight for it. Hell that caravan broke through the fence, pushed their way through, and Mexico did nothing. That screams weakness.

They don't want to make their country better. They just want "Free Stuff" without having to work for it.

Both.

Ya, women and children fight too.

You'd have to vote them in first.

You know only citizens can vote. And voter fraud is close to unheard of. And trump investigated voter fraud and had nothing to report.

And yet, politicians in the US are encouraging "those people" to take part in our democratic system by voting. Those working, tax paying, people who also live in the country you (do or do not) live in. Labeling them as different and going against the ideals of your country... where have I heard that before? For like 12 years. (damn, 12 f**king years, I never checked; didn't know it went on that long.) Talk about heads up somewhere.

I admit I did nothing to differentiate the semantics of these and those.
Our "free" market economy and due process are laughable.
I'd guess they care for freedom of religion. They have probably noted that they don't need to change religion (as part of any way of coming to the US.)
The president is xenophobic. Get used to that talking point.

I do take your position seriously.

The US exists in the world.
Emigration is obvious a thing in today's world.
If the solution is only to keep people out, will we not soon have the rest of the world at our doorstep?
As a country in the world, should we not engage internationally to influence other parts of the world in a positive manner to reduce the illegal immigration to the US? (And generally improve conditions in the world generally? Note that some influences are without cost and are a matter of position, pressure, and ideals)

Any support for your first claim? Lots of European countries seem to be doing quite well. Things like drug costs, broadband internet monopolies, patent trolls, competitor suppression, and the recent hobbling of the CFPB and Net Neutrality loom large.

The president has actions that demonstrate xenophobia, as have you in this thread.

As a percentage of population, Germany has more immigrants.
It would appear that the number of legal immigrants in the US might be higher than legal and illegal combined in all other countries.

By definition, trump is not a dictator. However, many of his actions do fit in the evil category.

Not every other country strictly enforces their borders unless you count the EU as a country. I need a source for your claim that other countries enforce their borders stronger than the US does.

Are you seriously blaming American failures in due process on immigrants? Are you seriously blaming the legal tactics and lobbying used to sequester possible market competitors on immigrants? I'd love to hear you flesh out that theory some more.

Seriously, go read the definition of Xenophobia.

Syrians failed, Afghanistans failed, Iraqis failed. We're not doing a great job with our country.

i smell a rat named sorros

I saw a video recently where a pickup truck was handing out food and water. This is Mexico we are talking about here, so why are the citizens of one of the poorest countries in the world giving away food and water their own people could be using to feed their own?

good point, and they are dirt poor, where did they get the $$ for the flags?

no, its a question. Maybe someday you will learn the dif

I dunno, can it?

Octavia has shity arguments so he uses semantics to make himself feel smarter.

:)

When did it become 5,000? The reporting I have heard didn't start with 5,000.

They keep piling in. Who knows why?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KspFTWt7SZ0

Nothing to see here.

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