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Lord Humungus sez,,, | LEAVE THE CAKE AND THE RESTAURANT, AND I SPARE    YOUR LIVES | image tagged in lord humungus sez | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Hohnk, hohnk,,,
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I like how you completely ignore the conservative Christian businesses who actually do refuse to serve gay people. There have been some businesses (restaurants and a hardware store) that outright say they won't serve any gay people.
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Glad you liked the meme. Thanks for dropping by. <3
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Your rebuttal was, um, ah, well, errumpudumdum,,,,
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Roll Safe Think About It Meme | So centuries old religious values do not count? What religious principal did Red Hen apply and why? | image tagged in memes,roll safe think about it | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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It's not about how old values are. It's about what the current society says is acceptable or not acceptable. Our society says that turning away customers for bigoted reasons is not acceptable, regardless of what causes a person to do it.
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Societies do make their own rules. That's a fact. It has nothing to do with being their own god. It's about laying out rules and values by which their society operates.
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Does the recent SCOTUS 7-2 decision in favor of the Colorado baker on the wedding cake issue change your argument at all?
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Change my argument about what?
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"Societies do make their own rules. That's a fact. It has nothing to do with being their own god. It's about laying out rules and values by which their society operates."
"It's not about how old values are. It's about what the current society says is acceptable or not acceptable. Our society says that turning away customers for bigoted reasons is not acceptable, regardless of what causes a person to do it."
SCOTUS said turning away business was within the right of the baker. So "the rules" of society seem to be at odds with the opinions or preferences of a substantial subset of our society at this time. It sounded, from your earlier remarks, that there was a monolithic society which has already decided this issue. Where is the resolution?
Thank you.
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Societies as a whole generally agree on basic rules such as not murdering, not stealing, etc. There will always be nuance and disagreement on the finer points. Some people in our society feel that a business should not be allowed to turn away gay customers. Some people feel the business owner should have that right.

I feel the business owner should have the freedom to turn away whomever they wish, even though I may not feel it is the morally correct thing to do.
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So you're good with the SCOTUS decision?

You might be a libertarian . . . ;^)
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I'm good with it from a legal standpoint, but not a moral one.
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I'm uncomfortable with several positions, morality-wise myself. I see giant medical problems with tobacco and weed smoking but the Libertarian position is one that favors the individual making their own choices, since they pay the price, not "Society." And I am deeply opposed to abortion. There truly are larger costs, paid by the nation, for individual choices but it is a system driven by principle, not personality or individual preferences exerted by the majority. Far from perfect, it is a system where someone else's preferences don't restrict your personal choice. And you face your own Higher Power on your own too.
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It's a common yet fallacious belief that without god, there can be no standards of morality. That is false.

Humans are a social species. We work together and cooperate for the benefit of everybody. Society functions more smoothly when people follow certain rules. The rules vary from one society to the next, but the generally involve things like not assaulting people, not killing people for no reason, not stealing, not deliberately causing harm to others, etc. We as a society agree on these rules. God doesn't even factor into the equation.

For a better explanation, search YouTube for "Matt Dillahunty secular morality". He explains it very well.
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No, morality does not deteriorate absent god. Cultures who don't believe in the god of the Bible still have morality. Look at Japan. They aren't a Christian culture and they're doing just fine.

The items I listed are not justified just because someone doesn't like a person.

If morality comes from god, then I have a few questions:

1. Is something moral because god commands it, or does god command it because it's moral?

2. Does that mean that the rules in the Bible handed down by god are moral and should be followed by everyone today?

3. How do you know what god considers moral or immoral?
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You know?!
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My favorite Maxine Moment came during the Rodney King verdict riots: She was standing in a downtown intersection, with looters busy in the background, and she blamed Reagan & Bush for the riots. She said they (R & B) needed to be arrested for what was going on.
Keep up the good work. ;^)
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Right. And I think WTS knew a thing or two about war, yes? But I never read anywhere that he mistreated prisoners or non combatants. Before the Geneva Conventions there were other protocols in place successively. But they are ALL based on the Golden Rule, yes?
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