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Matrix Morpheus Meme | WHAT IF I TOLD YOU I DON'T CARE WHAT THE LAW SAYS ABOUT YOUR SEXUAL IDENTIFICATION. I STILL DON'T WANT YOU USING THE BATHROOM WITH MY WIFE | image tagged in memes,matrix morpheus | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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TRY TO USE THE SAME BATHROOM AS MY NIECES ONE TIME, I DARE YOU! | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Am I The Only One Around Here Meme | Got your niece’s back | image tagged in memes,am i the only one around here | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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IF YOU HAVE A "V" AND DON'T HAVE ANY MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS, USE THIS BATHROOM IF YOU HAVE A "P", HAD A "P", WISH YOU HAD A "P" OR HAVE ANY  | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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GOING INTO THE BATHROOM MY DAUGHTER IS IN . . . WILL BE A 'EUNUCH' EXPERIENCE FOR YOU | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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YOU'RE ABOUT TO BECOME NON-BINARY | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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3 ups, 3 replies
Unfortunately, such fetishes do exist...
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5 ups, 2 replies
You know as a tranny, I get tired of hearing this over and over the right and left of the fight. At times I've been asked to use the men's and I can tell it bothers a lady okay no big deal that's just life I've had men ask the same and no big deal not to me I'm more worried about just getting to the John. I think ppl on the left could stop being such controlling ass wipes and realize that you can't just force ppl to accept it ....for one that's wrong to do and will only make ppl hate us more. We are adults just some of us need to act like it....and if that means using a room you don't won't to oh well we should at least try to be kind to each other and others feelings and never force what we are down other people's neck. And this once more is another factor why I am voting Trump 2020 because the left wants there cake and to eat it too. Any way to tired to care about typos.
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So you want to vote for a man who says that transgender people shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military?
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It's not about being liberal, it's about not supporting someone who actively works to dismantle progress made by Obama towards your very own community.
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Upvote!
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4 ups, 2 replies
In what way will a trans person hurt your wife?
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4 ups, 2 replies
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You are either hopelessly stupid or willingly ignorant. It's about not putting women and children in danger because a predator decides he's going to use the women's room on the pretense that he thinks he's a girl.
And did you forget about this POS tranny that **ped a little girl? I don't care what they identify as, if you got a dick and you are trying to use the women's restroom, you're an effing PERV!!!! I can't read the mind of a tranny to know his true intentions, so better safe than sorry. Tough titty that he has to go pee standing up with the other big boys in the MEN'S ROOM.
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3 ups, 2 replies
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Everyone's a perv.

Secondly, the **pe you're talking about happened in a private restroom, not a public one, let alone the fact that is only one trans person out of hundreds of thousands.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Oh Myrian, why are you letting facts get in the way of christine7's totally ironclad argument? ;)
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3 ups, 1 reply
Wait, I thought you two always denied being pervs. Now the truth comes out.
It must feel good knowing it takes the two of you to argue with little ole me :3
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3 ups
Since when did we deny being pervs?

"It must feel good knowing it takes the two of you to argue with little ole me :3"

Do you know how many I've put up with at once? :3
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3 ups, 1 reply
Yep, it did happen in a private bathroom, and he was a friend of the family. That makes it even worse that he couldn't be trusted alone with his friend's child. He didn't get away with it because he did it in his friend's home and was found out immediately. If it had happened in a public restroom with a stranger's child, he may never have been caught.
So what if it's only one out of hundreds of thousands? There are men who PRETEND to be trans just so they can go after their prey more easily, and trans are being manipulated into allowing it, begging for it! Do you want that on your conscience just because you want to use the women's restroom?
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4 ups, 1 reply
"If it had happened in a public restroom with a stranger's child, he may never have been caught."

Considering how many people use the public restroom, obviously no one would get caught doing friggin **pe!

"There are men who PRETEND to be trans just so they can go after their prey more easily"

More like there are men who pretend to be holy to; I'll let you finish that. Secondly, if there are men to pretend to be trans, then why attack the actual trans community?

"and trans are being manipulated into allowing it, begging for it!"

Or it could be because the ones who started this whole thing were two Republicans named Pat McCrory and Caitlyn Jenner.

"Do you want that on your conscience just because you want to use the women's restroom?"

Obviously not, but lemme answer your question with a question: how is church when one has the thought that many ministers are rapists on his/her conscience?
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3 ups, 2 replies
Rapes do occur in public restrooms.
Why attack...? Because trans are blinded by their demons to think that they have this right to infringe on a safe space for women and children just because they want to keep up the illusion of being a girl in their head. Having to use the men's room because the tranny is really a man would break him out of the illusion he's built up in his head that he's really a girl. If he can't handle the truth of his existence, that's his problem and he shouldn't force it on others.
Pat McCrory (Rino) and Bruce Jenner (man in a dress)...those two are obviously not to be trusted.
The church question...is not the point of the original meme. Why do you keep running away from the real topic at hand?
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3 ups, 1 reply
"Rapes do occur in public restrooms."

Just like space bestiality.

"Why attack...? Because trans are blinded by their demons to think that they have this right to infringe on a safe space for women and children just because they want to keep up the illusion of being a girl in their head. "

Since when was the public restroom a safe space?! It's horrible! If anything, we should focus on what actually goes on in there rather than who goes in there!

"Having to use the men's room because the tranny is really a man would break him out of the illusion he's built up in his head that he's really a girl."

Doesn't your statement right there reveal the radical agenda to that's supposed to be about "stopping predators"?

"If he can't handle the truth of his existence, that's his problem and he shouldn't force it on others."

As if "forcing it on others" has caused anyone else actual harm.

"The church question...is not the point of the original meme. Why do you keep running away from the real topic at hand?"

i.imgflip.com/256png.jpg (click to show) Don't say I didn't ask you first.
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2 ups
Your post doesn't make any sense. I think I fried your brain.
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3 ups, 1 reply
"trans are blinded by their demons"

Because saying things like makes you sound totally rational and sane XD Do demons steal socks from your dryer, too? Or hide your car keys?

If you can't handle the truth of the existence of transgender people, that's your problem.
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3 ups, 1 reply
"trans are blinded by their demons"..."Because saying things like makes you sound totally rational and sane..."

What else would make a man think he's a woman, and insist that everyone else go along with it?

"If you can't handle the truth of the existence of transgender people, that's your problem."

Oh, I can handle it. It's you and MWEV that can't handle the truth.
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3 ups, 1 reply
1. Brain chemistry

2. Zing! Wow, what a comeback! :D
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2 ups, 1 reply
So, you're admitting that their brain is out of whack. Why don't they get it fixed?
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Why fix it if it isn't a problem? If their brain makeup doesn't match their physical body but they can function just fine in normal society, why do you care so much?

You've probably used the same restroom as a transgender person and didn't even know it. So clearly it doesn't affect you.
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3 ups, 1 reply
We weren't talking about your childhood.
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3 ups, 1 reply
She has a va**na and XX chromosomes, so...
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2 ups, 2 replies
A transgender may not be interested, but what's to stop a predator from dressing up as a woman and pretend to be transgender so that he can have easy access to his favorite prey?
How difficult is it to understand? Do you place a man's feelings over the safety of women and children? Are you THAT low?
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Your attempts at derailing the discussion by changing the subject isn't going to work. At least NRA members would make sure women and children are safe from pervy men trying to prey on them.
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4 ups, 1 reply
They're different, therefore they're a threat, obviously, because...reasons ;)
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Uh oh, here comes Myrian's backup. Are you sure that you two aren't the same person? I can't imagine some crybaby calling/texting his brony truckdriver friend to come to his defense on IMGFLIP. And so quickly, too!
Let's try this analogy. You have a snake pit full of a variety of snakes. Most of them are harmless, with a few poisonous ones thrown into the mix. However, you can't tell which ones are poisonous. Would you risk entering the snake pit?
Since we cannot tell if the man entering the women's restroom is really a transsexual with no interest in women or children (because we can't read his mind), it's better to have the tranny "man up" and go to the men's room (he can sit down to pee in the stall) because it's too risky to women and children to allow any man to use the women's restroom.
Are you placing the feelings of a grown man over the safety of women and children?
Do you hate women and children so much that you would rather risk them getting molested instead of the man getting his feelings hurt? Are you really that low?
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3 ups, 1 reply
I'm Myrian's friend, so yes, I have her back. And no, she didn't call or text me. She doesn't have my phone number. I simply saw this meme on the front page, read through the comments, saw her comment and replied to it.

Your snake pit analogy is pointless because that would apply to literally any group of people...including Christians (because it's not like any Christian has ever sexually assaulted a child).

Your argument is this: we can't tell the harmless ones from the harmful ones, therefore we should keep them all out. Umm...wouldn't that also apply to all women, and all men? Heck, let's apply your flawless logic to race, too. You can't tell the harmless black people from the harmful ones, so we should keep all black people out of public restrooms...as well as out of your neighborhood, just to be on the safe side. We should also keep all Hispanics and Asians and Arabs out as well. Your logic is so amazing! Let's apply it to gun owners as well. You can't tell the harmless gun owners from the harmful ones, so we should ban guns entirely! What a marvelous solution to this nation's woes :D

To answer your question, no, I don't hate women and children. Do you hate transgender people? If not, then why raise this issue in the first place? If so, then you're a sad, pathetic bigot.
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5 ups, 2 replies
Changing the subject won't help. We're talking about selfish men wanting to use the women's restroom despite safety concerns.

"...you're a sad, pathetic bigot."

And you're just projecting...end of discussion.
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3 ups, 1 reply
"Changing the subject won't help"

Says the one avoiding the questions.
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I'm not avoiding questions, I'm sticking to the topic.
You're trying to derail a discussion by changing the subject because you don't want to deal with the original issue of the OP's meme.
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3 ups, 1 reply
I'm projecting? Against whom am I bigoted?
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4 ups, 1 reply
Anyone who doesn't agree with you, that a transsexual's feelings are more important than the safety of women and children.
I don't hate transsexuals. I just think they are being emotionally manipulated into thinking that the bathroom issue is so important that they don't think about the risk to the safety of the physically weaker members of society (women and children), and they end up thinking that their feelings are more important than the fear women and children would have to deal with wondering if the man in the bathroom is really just going to use the toilet and leave them alone.
There are evil people (predators) running this world, and they manipulate trans' peoples feelings so that they don't think about what the true motive is--to legally allow predators easy access to prey.
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So because some women may feel afraid of a transgender person in their bathroom, that means transgender people shouldn't be allowed to use the bathroom they want? Are you saying that personal fear should outweigh everything else? If I'm afraid of a particular group of people, should those people be prohibited from using facilities I use?
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2 ups, 2 replies
Sounds like segregation of straight people
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2 ups, 1 reply
That sure didn't sound like sarcasm, so how was I to know?

And no, cisgender males and females aren't segregated to their respective gender bathrooms. They can also use either bathroom if they so choose. Nothing is stopping them.
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Well, by that definition, nothing is *stopping* people urinating on the sidewalk, as long as they don’t get caught.
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How exactly are straight people being segregated? That makes no sense at all. If you want separate bathrooms for men and women, doesn't mean that you're supporting segregation?
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Don’t you know sarcasm when you read it? But think about it. “I’m transgender so I should be allowed to use either bathroom”. But normal males and females are restricted to only use restrooms of their respective gender — segregation.
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Women are afraid of strange men coming into their bathroom because women and children are vulnerable in the bathroom, and men can overpower them if they wanted to. It's a natural instinct in women to be wary of strange men. If you're not a woman, you will NEVER understand this feeling, no matter how much you dress up like a girl or what you cut off.
If you think that the man's feelings take precedent over the safety of women and children, you are part of the problem. Why are transsexuals trying to get women and children to lower their guard? Why is it soooo important to the tranny to use the women's restroom? What's wrong with using the men's room if you're a man? Are you afraid of the men in the men's room?
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"By "transwomen" you mean biological men pretending to be women..."

Actually, no, I mean transgender people who are physically male but identify as female. They are not pretending to be female.

"If by "transmen" you mean biological women pretending to be men..."

Same thing as above. No, that is not true.

As far as why transwomen prefer to use female bathrooms, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the fact that they identify as female might possibly have something to do with it. Just a hunch.

And I've never met a transwoman who uses female restrooms for some kind of sexual thrill.
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Which is it, because you keep contradicting yourself. First you say that transgender people aren't the threat, straight men pretending to be transgendered are the threat. Then you say that transwomen should be scared to use female restrooms because the women might be carrying concealed? Which is it? Are they a threat or aren't they?

Since you haven't said anything against transmen using male restrooms, I assume you're okay with that? Or no?
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I didn't say "straight men pretending to be transgendered", I said PERVS pretending to be trans. There is a BIG difference.
By "transwomen" you mean biological men pretending to be women, then yes, they should be scared to go into the women's restroom. Pervs are a threat and the potential prey (women) have the God-given right to defend themselves. Women can't overpower men physically, so they should be armed with some type of weapon to level the playing field.
If by "transmen" you mean biological women pretending to be men, I've seen one at my job and was startled at first because I thought she was a man. After my initial shock I realized she was a woman cross-dressing as a man, so I relaxed about it because I didn't see her as a threat. She was just minding her own business. I have a better chance to defend myself against a woman trying to molest me than a man, anyway. Also, I don't think she would feel safe using the men's room, I never saw her try to, and I would never tell her to go use the men's room, either. She's still a biological woman, so she uses the women's room. She has more sense than the "transwomen", quite frankly.
So if the woman dressing like a man still uses the women's room, why don't the men dressing like women want to use the men's room? Are they afraid something bad will happen to them in the men's room with all those scary straight men? Or could they be getting some kind of sexual charge out of using the women's restroom, like transvestite men get by dressing like women?
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"If you're not a woman, you will NEVER understand this feeling, no matter how much you dress up like a girl or what you cut off."

And if you're not a transgender person, you will never understand how they feel, no matter how much you rail against them.

"If you think that the man's feelings take precedent over the safety of women and children, you are part of the problem."

Funny, because that's the same argument used by gun control advocates regarding gun owners. Welcome to the opposition :)

"Why are transsexuals trying to get women and children to lower their guard?"

They aren't, so stop being so paranoid.

"Why is it soooo important to the tranny to use the women's restroom?"

Because transgender people have to poop.

"Are you afraid of the men in the men's room?"

It sounds like the only scared one here is you.
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I understand more than you think.
I'm not being paranoid. There is a real danger in allowing biological men to use the same restroom reserved for women. Apparently, no one has ever tried to molest you, so you don't understand this concern.
A man calling himself a woman can still poop in the men's room. They do have stalls with toilets, just like the women's room, except you also get the option of standing up to pee at a urinal if you so choose.
Sure, I would be scared if a man walked in to the women's restroom. I would be stupid not to be.
You still didn't answer my question. Are you afraid of men in the men's room? If not, why impose on the women?
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"You still didn't answer my question. Are you afraid of men in the men's room? If not, why impose on the women?"

I'm not afraid of men in the men's room, nor am I afraid of women in the men's room, or women in the women's room, or men in the women's room.

Are men capable of abusing bathroom policies to harm people? Yes, just like gun ownership can be abused to harm people. Your logic would demand that both transgender bathroom policies and gun laws be severely restricted.
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"Your logic would demand that both transgender bathroom policies and gun laws be severely restricted."
Again, you are going off-topic.
I think transgender bathroom policies are evil. It's simple. Men use the men's room and women use the women's room.
I would support gun laws be relaxed so that women can conceal carry without a permit to defend themselves against pervs in their bathroom.
Second amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Maybe if an MTF tranny knew the real women were packing heat, they wouldn't be so gung ho about using the women's restroom.
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what if i told you i agree
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get over it!
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5 ups, 2 replies
If I were transgender, I wouldn't give a f**k what you want, because you don't get to make my decisions for me. I would whatever bathroom I feel comfortable using.
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6 ups, 2 replies
So you put your feelings over the safety of women and children. Okay, I see how it is. Pretty damn selfish of you.
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4 ups, 1 reply
I don't know why people are so worried about what sign is on the door.
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2 ups, 3 replies
However, why make it easier for a man to do so? You don't seem to understand that making something easier for the bad guys to do, isn't helping anyone.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Making it easier how? Is there some magical lock on women's restrooms that men aren't able to open now that only dressing like a woman will help them unlock? Or that allowing transgender restrooms will? No. The restrooms usually aren't locked. Like any Joe Blo can walk right in.

If you're talking about sexual predators, they're going to get in there whether they're transgender or not. Do you really think they care about the law? And if they're really good at looking female, you're not going to know the difference anyway.
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3 ups, 3 replies
It's sad you don't realize the issue here. A pervert can get in any time, you are correct. However, if the law states that it is illegal for the pervert to get in, the chance is less likely the pervert will try it due to the consequence. If the law, however, says it's okay for a man (or woman, but for this discussion, it's a man) to enter the women's restroom as long as he identifies as a woman, it makes the consequence for the pervert less of an issue for him.

That's just something you leftists don't seem to grasp very well. It isn't about saying that men who identify as women shouldn't be allowed in the women's restroom, but about making it more likely the pervert will get in trouble for his pervertedness.
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4 ups, 1 reply
"It isn't about saying that men who identify as women shouldn't be allowed in the women's restroom, but about making it more likely the pervert will get in trouble for his pervertedness."

Except that for some people, that really is the issue. They just use the sexual predator argument because they don't want to own up to their bigotry and say what they really think.
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3 ups, 1 reply
If you're calling me a bigot because I fail to give into the notion that transsexuality and transgenderism is not a mental disorder, you can stop. I have heard that many times before and it's exactly the same thing as calling someone a racist when they produce facts about a minority race they don't agree with or calling someone a homophobe because they don't agree with two people of the same sex being allowed to marry. It's a tactic the far left likes to throw out that basically turns the argument into nothing.
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4 ups, 1 reply
People on the right do that as well, calling people socialists, communists, satanists, etc. How many times during Obama's administration were "socialist" and "Marxist" hurled as jabs against liberals?

If someone said that interracial marriage should be illegal, I would say that sounds racist. If someone said that same sex marriage should be illegal, I would say that sounds homophobic. I don't throw those terms around randomly. I apply terms to people who fit those terms. Someone shouldn't get mad at me for calling them a bigot if they say and do bigoted things.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Although the word homophobic means to be afraid. It's a phobia. I doubt many of the people against gay marriage are scared of them.
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A phobia is an irrational fear of or aversion to something. Many people have an irrational aversion to LGBT people.
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So laws work? Like gun control laws?
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3 ups, 1 reply
What's sad is the focus on transgenders when completely straight acting males are out there victimizing women everywhere and getting away with it.. That's what ignorant conservatives are too blind to accept.

Right now, men aren't supposed to use the majority of women's restrooms. Is there some rash of trannies victimizing women in restrooms going on now to warrant this fear?

So like suddenly a sexual predator is going to care about the law?
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3 ups, 2 replies
Well, since the majority of men aren't psychotic perverts with mental issues, that isn't a big a problem. And men are not allowed in the women's restroom and women aren't allowed in the men's restroom.

Transgenders are mentally disturbed and therefore the issue I have with allowing them into the women's restroom is a legitimate issue. Transgender people have mental problems as it is a mental disorder. The suicide rate is way higher than that of straight people or gay people, close to 50% suicide rate. So my problem with crazy leftists telling us we need to accept their mental disorder or we're just bigots, is your desire to instead of getting them professional help, you want to play along.

Not going to happen.
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4 ups, 5 replies
One out of three women are getting **ped. Should I give you a minute to let that sink in? How many of us are getting assaulted by friends and family members who are not transgender, btw? The majority of us! How many straight men out there are closeted or walking around out there struggling with mental illness under the guise of looking "heterosexual?"

Why don't you just admit that you're not really concerned about your vulnerable females?

You're just triggered over a dude in a dress.
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3 ups, 1 reply
You're basing your so-called stats of [email protected] victims on personal experience and places you frequent. You cannot judge all men on the men who frequent nightclubs and casinos and strip clubs. Of course your chances of being chased by drunk men in a casino will be greater than if you were in a grocery store or a church or a park. That isn't a good starting point on your claiming that 1 in 3 women are [email protected]
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I didn't get assaulted by men who frequent nightclubs. They were family friends we knew through sports.Yes there was more than one. No, they weren't transgender. And I'm not basing my stats on personal experience. I'm basing my opinion it. The stats are out there and speak for themselves. I dare you to show me numbers that refute what I said.
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3 ups, 1 reply
No, 1 out of 3 women are NOT being [email protected] That is absolutely wrong.

Congratulations, you're falling for pure bs.
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What's the real number then? I can take a population sample of just myself and all the women I know and I can tell you from personal experience that number is very close. I wasn't assaulted by a transgender and neither were any of my friends who were victimized. Every one of the perpetrators were straight men wearing guys' clothes.

In fact, I've never felt more safe in a roomful of guys than the time I went to a drag show in Ann Arbor, MI. Not one of them grabbed my ass when I wasn't looking, or came slobbering up to me asking for a dance while staring at my tits.

Super bowl Sunday in a Vegas casino on the other hand, I was literally running away from groups of drunk guys. Maybe you all need to look long and hard in a mirror to see where the real problem lies...
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So you just heard it somewhere and decide to treat it as fact? Again, the study could be flawed, as a lot of studies are (e.g. the wage gap)
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It also appears that as a **pe survivor you have a bias. You seem paranoid from your terrible experience. I'm sorry that it happened to you, but to think that it happens to everyone because of it is faulty logic, more specifically an anecdote.
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Wow. One in three women got **ped? Are you absolutely sure that isn't bullshit? What study do you cite that says that one in three women are **ped? What did it define **pe as, because that's how the one in five figure for colleges happened. That study asked 5 questions, with no question actually being "were you **ped?"
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I heard it somewhere a few years back. One in five is the figure for reported **pes. The actual number is higher than that. How much higher there is no way to measure since population studies and surveys are open to interpretation. As a survivor myself, I'll err on the side of a lot higher...
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3 ups, 2 replies
"It isn't about saying that men who identify as women shouldn't be allowed in the women's restroom"

"Transgenders are mentally disturbed and therefore the issue I have with allowing them into the women's restroom is a legitimate issue."

That sounds like a contradiction. Is the issue about keeping transgender people out of certain restrooms, or isn't it?

"Transgender people have mental problems as it is a mental disorder."

I have depression. Should I not be allowed to use public restrooms? You still haven't demonstrated why transgender people are any more of a threat than cisgender people.

"The suicide rate is way higher than that of straight people or gay people, close to 50% suicide rate."

Source? A 50% suicide rate sounds highly exaggerated.
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3 ups, 1 reply
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf

The suicide rate for post op transgenders is 41% according to this link. There are other links that put it as high as 44%. In the gay community it's around 8%. In the straight community it's 3-5%.

There's a reason that transgenders have a much higher rate of suicide, but I find it very difficult to believe that it's due to bullying. If that were the case, the suicide rate would be virtually the same in the straight community.

There's a reason that may not be known exactly, but I believe it to be due to their mental state. If you look at anyone who commits suicide who are straight, they have many similarities to that of transgender and gay people. They are almost always being bullied, but if being bullied were the reason for the post op transgender community suicide rate being so high, why is it not at a 3-10% rate like the rest?

There is a mental disorder going on in the transgender society and it needs to be looked at instead of being condoned and applauded. Especially when parents are forcing their young children into it to show that they're being progressive.
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1. You didn't address my first two points. You seem to contradict yourself on the bathroom issue, and should I, as someone with depression, be considered mentally unfit to use public facilities?

2. Straight people don't get bullied for being straight like LGBT people get bullied for being LGBT. That's common sense.

3. I'd have to look at that link and see what it says. I hear that number being thrown around a lot but I don't know how accurate it really is.

4. You're saying there is a connection between being transgender and having a higher suicide risk. I don't see what would cause that. Having depression and having a higher suicide risk, I could understand that. It sounds like you're equating transgenderism with mental illness, and mental illness with a higher suicide risk.

5. If someone is transgender and happy, and not suicidal, why shouldn't they be supported? It's not hurting you, and if it's not hurting them, what's the problem?
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I'll address your points, then I'm done with this argument for now. lol

1) My issue with transgenders using women's (or men's) restrooms is simple. The laws being pushed on us basically states that anyone can use any restroom based on the sex they feel like. If it were just about a man or woman who goes through all the steps to change their sex, including the surgery, that's one thing. A man puts on a dress and some lipstick and calls himself a woman, but still has a beard and talks like a man, that's the issue I have. That invites sick perverts into the opposite sex's restroom and he has no business being in it.

2) They don't get bullied like homosexuals and transgender people, no, but they still get bullied. Bullying isn't just someone calling you a freak because your sexuality is different than the norm. Bullying is also a group of people calling you bigots and homophobes and racists and sexists for not complying with their way of thinking. Is it as bad? Probably not. However, it is still a form of bullying.

3) Well, I would say it is pretty accurate since pretty much every site I go to relating to that statistic say close to the same thing. But even if the suicide rate among transgender people were sitting at 20%, that's still a high number compared to the straight sex average of 3-5% and double that of homosexuals who sit at 8-10%.

4) I'm just looking at the statistics. From everything I see the suicide rate among post op trans people is around 40-45%, depending at which study you look at. I mean, that's nearly half of the post op trans community. I don't know what exactly is causing it, but it is an issue if everyone else's suicide rate is 3-10%. I doubt it has much to do with bullying since homosexuals I'm sure get bullied more often than straight people and their suicide rate is only at about 10%. But instead of just giving trans people the tools to continue transitioning, we need to figure out why their suicide rate is sky high. And I DEFINITELY don't condone parents of children forcing or allowing their children to transition. When they're adults, that's one thing, but as children, I call that abuse.

5) But according to the statistics, it is hurting them. Like I said, the suicide rate is over 40%. Many will say they're happy, but just like a lot of people who commit suicide, no one realized they had a problem because the victim will often times hide their pain. If the trans person truly is happy and they are a grown adult, then that's fine.
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Thanks for addressing my questions. Just a few quick points before we lower this conversation into the ground and throw dirt on it:

-I saved a screenshot of that link you posted, so that I can check it out later. I'm a terrible procrastinator, so it'll be much later, most likely.

-harassment is bullying, but just calling a bigot a bigot is not bullying in my book

-from what I've heard, those suicide numbers also include suicidal thoughts, not just instances of someone actually committing suicide. I'm sure the number would be lower if they left out the instances of ideations that are not acted upon.

-if a child is telling their parents they are transgender/in the wrong body/etc, I have no problem with the parents supporting their child in that process. Is it a "phase" that some children outgrow? I don't doubt it. But just because that is a possibility, we shouldn't necessarily assume that is the case.

-from my understanding, one of the things which classified a mental illness is how it interferes with the person's daily life. If someone is transgender and it doesn't interfere with their life, I think calling it a mental illness loses some steam at that point. That's just my opinion, anyway.
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I don't think I will show the stats, since any site I show you, you'll claim it's a biased site. Probably too conservative or something. 1 in 3 women are not [email protected]

I will however tell you what has been shown to be true, though. The feminists claim that 1 in 3 women are [email protected] at least once in their lifetime, but the truth is more like 1 in 10 are [email protected] and 1 in 7 are sexually harassed. However, those numbers can be easily skewed, because while someone slapping you on the butt may be inappropriate, it is't sexual assault. Many feminists today hate men and therefore will claim false narratives to make men out to be nothing more than [email protected] who deserve nothing more than prison time and label them perverts.

Did you know that if you add in [email protected] and sexual assaults in prison, men are [email protected] at a higher rate than women?
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Wow, why don't you listen to this logic when arguing about gun control?
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Gun control makes it easier for the bad guy to shoot up a school.
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no it doesn't... Florida had an armed guard. You seriously think arming the school with MORE guns is a solution?
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Yes I do because history has shown us that an unarmed populous are nothing but sitting ducks to their government.

One armed guard at the opposite end of the school... Yeah, that'll work.
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more guns = more chance to missfire or accidentally kill, at a school means more children will get hurt through accidents in guns that will be saved by your crazy plan. There are a lot of schools, just the level of staffing you are talking about is unrealistic for the state to handle responsibly. I think they tried this in Pakistan but quickly revoked the law after a teacher killed a student. Having more guns only increases the potential of those guns causing more harm than good. Can't you see this very simple fact?
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Women and children aren't in any more danger from transgender people than they are from cisgender people, and your assumption that that is so makes me pity you and abhor your bigotry.
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You're not really comprehending what I'm saying. True transsexuals may not be a danger, but we cannot tell what the true intentions are of a man dressed as a woman walking into the women's restroom.
Not all clowns are dangerous just because John Wayne Gacy dressed as one. I just would be more cautious about inviting a clown to my children's birthday parties.
The safety of women and children takes precedent over a man's hurt feelings.
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If real transgenders aren't a threat, then why did you bring up the one in Wyoming who sexually assaulted the girl?

"The safety of women and children takes precedent over a man's hurt feelings."

And if their safety isn't actually in jeopardy, you'll just claim it is in order to make your case?
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You are intentionally ignoring the point. End of discussion.
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"The safety of women and children takes precedent over a man's hurt feelings"

This totally has nothing to do with our radical christian agenda. ;)
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You're still off-topic. And getting the last word in doesn't make you the winner.
You didn't beat me down with logic. You spewed a crapload of strawman arguments to get me to give up because you are pretending to be stupid. Well, I don't give up. Now go play with your brony friend.
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Octavia is a Calie pot smoker. You won't change his mind and it is just a complete waste of time. Nothing smart comes out of that thing unfortunately, do not blame him, I lived in Calie as well, it will do that to you. They lack fresh air.
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I've told you before that I don't smoke pot, and I never have. You don't listen very well, do you? Or is your memory that messed up from using it yourself?

Also, at this exact moment I'm near Indianapolis, so are you going to blame the air quality in Indiana as well?
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What does me being a brony have to do with the discussion at hand? You literally just accused her of getting off topic, then you bring in irrelevant points.

Please follow your own advice and stay on topic.
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And you totally didn't give me the same old "trannies are going to welcome pedos" strawman that I've heard ever since day 1 of the transgender controversy.
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Do you realize you referred to yourself and OM as "libtards" in your comment above? The truth comes out again :3
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What makes the transgender's rights more important than everyone else's? Why does he/she, a single individual, have the right to make many, many others uncomfortable just so he/she isn't? Don't the women have a say in who uses their bathroom? Don't the husbands and fathers have a say? What if they are uncomfortable with a Tranny using the women's room? Why does the Tranny get make everyone uncomfortable but no one is allowed to he/she uncomfortable?
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Hmm...

I don't really care about the transgender issue and was just reading this flame war for shits and giggles, but then I came across this little gem:

"Why does he/she, a single individual, have the right to make many, many others uncomfortable just so he/she isn't?"

I thought you were a "tough, manly conservative" who didn't care about the "feelings" of "crybaby lib-ruls" who get "triggered" over everything.

I sense a wee bit of hypocrisy here.
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Did you just assume that all conservatives are men?!
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No I didn't....
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Show me in the US Constitution where people have the right to not be uncomfortable. If you live in society, you will encounter people and situations that make you uncomfortable. Too bad. This isn't about giving transgender people special rights, and it isn't about saying other people don't have rights of their own. People should be treated equally and fairly.

Why would husbands have a say in where their wives go to the bathroom? Can't women make decisions for themselves? And if it really makes them that uncomfortable, they are free to stand inside the bathroom while their wives or daughters do their business. No one is stopping them.

If a racist person feels uncomfortable around black people, should businesses prohibit black people from shopping there?

And if being around transgender people makes you feel uncomfortable, maybe the problem is with you. Have you ever considered that?
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Show me in the US Constitution where we have to change things because a Tranny feels uncomfortable. You just said it yourself. There is no clause saying you have the right to not be uncomfortable. So why does the tranny have that right to not be uncomfortable and everyone else doesn't?
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It's not in the Constitution. But the 14th Amendment is, and it is often used to prevent discrimination against people.
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Please point out the clause that says Trannys get to use the women's restroom even if the majority of the people are against it. I couldn't find it. Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2.
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any cl
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I'm sure the "equal protection" clause would be used in a legal defense regarding this issue.
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No, it wouldn't..because "equal" does not mean special. Again I ask, why do the rights of Trannys supercede those rights of others? Do you think San Francisco would give a permit for a parade if it was for "Heterosexual pride?" You know they would not. THAT would be Homophobic. "Equal" to the Left means if you agree with me then it's all good. If you don't, then you are (Insert slur here depending on how it applies) Racist, Homophobic, Misogynist, ..etc. If we are all equal, then let's do away with quota's for college. Let the applicants get in based on their test scores and not on their skin color. Let's get rid of sports bias..let the women compete with the men. Let's allow immigration based on what that person can contribute to our society based on their desire and accomplishments and skills and not on their ethnicity.
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I don't see any transgender people asking for special treatment. I see them asking for equal treatment.

I don't see anyone saying their rights should or do supercede the rights of others.

If San Francisco would deny a permit for a "heterosexual pride" parade and that bothers you, then you should likewise be bothered by the city of Starkville Mississippi, which recently DID deny a permit for a gay pride parade. If you support equality, you should be opposed to either group being discriminated against.
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They are asking for special treatment by demanding they be allowed to use the women's restroom over the objections of the majority. They wnat special treatment..they believe they should not be made uncomfortable but that it' s OK if they discomfort everyone else. And No, I support Starkville because they most likely would have also denied a permit for a Heterosexual parade. I would like to believe they would deny any permit that promotes any kind of sexuality. There is no need for that. When is the goat f**kers parade?
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Asking to be able to use the women's restroom isn't asking for special treatment because that would also mean women could use the men's room if they want to.

Equal treatment is not special treatment.
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OMG, you must have a legion in there. Dear Jesus.
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Seriously?! Lmao!! XD
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Good meme.
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