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College Liberal Meme | THINKS GIVING HORMONES TO CATTLE IS EVIL, BUT INJECTING THEM INTO CHILDREN TO "CHANGE THEIR GENDER" IS FINE. | image tagged in memes,college liberal,hormones,gender dysphoria,vegan,vegetarian | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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It's usually the child's choice, not the cow's.
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I believe we have discussed this before. A child doesn't have the mental capacity to choose what will have adverse lifelong affects on them.
They can not weigh the possible positive benefits (for someone with gender dysphoria) verses assured negative affects. That is the parents responsibility and it is the parents making the choice.
That makes a skeptical person like me wonder what this mentality of "it is the child's choice" also want to allow minor children to "choose" to do that the law and common moral decency does not allow.
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They don't technically choose. Transgenderism is a difficult topic which can't be resulted to lifestyle. It's a topic of what the mind states, not what the physiology states, and it doesn't have adverse effects to come along with it.
Usually a child gains a sense of self-awareness during their 3rd-4th grade year, hence their ability to rebel against teachers (and based on personal experiences because around that time, my dysphoria was kicking in). The child depicted in the meme looks to be in about those years. What is usually the parents making a choice is when they have an intersex child and force that child to be one gender when they conform with the other.

What makes a skeptical person like me wonder is what the basis for the moral decencies you mentioned is. Why shouldn't a child be able to look for their identity because of someone else's morals? Not to mention... what law?
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What this meme implies concerns many people when adults claim that emotionally immature children can make life altering decisions without the ability to weigh the consequences. Not only can the decisions made by adults harm the children irreparably for the rest of their lives, other adults who want to can push for the right to take advantage of them.

Saying that there are no adverse affects from the dysphoria itself ignores the adverse affects from the hormone therapy and surgery. It sterilizes them for life and for the percentage of young people who naturally grow out of dysphoria and don't appreciate their bodies being that way they have to have more surgery.

I could post links to the American College of Pediatrics papers that talk about this topic but whenever I do that for a few people on imgflip (even on threads for my own memes) the entire thing disappears.
Maybe your dysphoria also leads to confirmation bias and you refuse to read anything that doesn't support your presuppositions 100%. But some of the doctors in those papers are transgender, they treat gender dysphoric youths, and they liken irreversible treatments on immature children to child abuse.
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Since when have adults taken advantage over children regarding their transgenderism? Tolerant adults have let their children make their own decisions.

I've never heard of a case where children have had hormone therapy. Changing clothes, I've heard of, but children going through hormone therapy is something that happens when they are much, much older.

My dysphoria does not lead to confirmation bias. I've been very open-minded for the past several months to see what people hold against transgender people. You saying that makes your argument an ad hominem fallacy.

I never advocated for using hormone changes on the child. However, adults aren't the one responsible for doing such, whereas they are responsible for performing hormone changes on a cow.
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When people in a society start saying that prepubescent children can make serious life altering choices, like starting hormone therapy, in order to find their identity and/or explore their sexuality there will be child molesters and perverts out there who will use those same arguments and say other children (not just the dysphoric children) should also be able to "explore their sexuality" and "find themselves" and the perverts "just want to help them."

When you say "tolerant" adults let the children make their own choices, that is what the perverts are hoping for.

A little research will show you that many preteens are having hormone therapy and in some places if the parents want the child to wait until they are more mature the child can report the parents to child protective services. They can't get a drivers license issued by the state but they're mature enough to take hormones that will sterilize them and possibly give them mood disorders and/or a chemical imbalance.

I didn't say "you have confirmation bias" rather "maybe" you have it. Your reply seems to confirm it since you say you have never heard of "children" having hormone therapy. Are preteens (12 or younger) children to you? Some people are allowing children younger than that to "choose" hormone therapy.

Good for you if you never advocate for children having hormone therapy. You should speak out against it, but that would put you at odds with the prevailing mindset of your community. Even though you don't advocate for it you still say the child should be able to choose it. How is a child mature enough to weigh the consequences and other possible side effects to make that type of decision? The parents are the ones paying for it, providing for it, and allowing it to happen so how are they not responsible for it?
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