A community of under 1,000 residents. It's a sad day.

Haha

Guess what? If the shooter was Arab or Muslim, it would have been called a terrorist attack, not a minor shooting

Who's calling it a minor shooting? I haven't heard anywhere they're calling it that. I've called it a terrorist attack from the first time I heard about it. Because that's what it is.

Me, for one, cause it is. And i didnt say it wasnt. I said that thats how the media sees it

It's only a terrorist attack if it had political motives, which is the definition.
This obviously did by the look of his Facebook. So yes it's a terrorist attack.
All Muslim extremists killings are terrorist attacks because involved political motives.

ter·ror·ism
[?ter??riz?m]
NOUN
the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

You're wrong, but I see where you're coming from.

Yeah, the way the news portrays it

Yea, by literal definition too.

Yeah

prayers

I think they were praying, they were in a church, it didn't work. Do you know what does work? Gun laws, America should try them. Less dead kids is an ideal we can all aspire to

Prayer does work and gun laws do not. You know what stopped the shooting? Another gun.

And I don't know where you're from, but I'm guessing somewhere in Europe or Australia? But those countries have a whole slew of problems outside of gun crimes.

That's how you settle an argument. :D

So if you think 'only' 25 dead is a good result because someone else had a gun, then I feel sorry for you.

Prayer doesn't work, if it did we wouldn't need doctors or the advances in medicine over the last 2000 years, we would still be dying before our 45 birthday if we were lucky.

And sorry, I didn't mean to turn this thread into a debate about guns, so that's all I have to say about that.

It's okay, it happens.

We have a mental health problem in America. This guy was a discharged military man who wasn't allowed to have a gun, legally. He still somehow got one and did what he did. In the end a good guy with a gun killed him like the savage animal he was.
What do the mass majority of these killers have in common. No I won't politicize it. They all take mood drugs designed to make you emotions, feelings, etc dulled. Sometimes to the point where you have no conscience. You literally feel nothing.

Not true. He finished shooting, sped away, was chased, crashed, and THEN was shot.

Gun control has worked in Australia since 1996. Mind you, they, like us, are mostly the descendents of British criminals, and thus culturally/(genetically?) prone to the same sort of gun totin violence.

Gun control has worked in that once cespool of foul ghetto violence, NYC, including the Bronx, once the most dangerous lil' town on Earth.

Ya can't shoot a gun if ya ain't got a gun ta shoot. Simple maffs.

Well, I had an entire book written as a response, but my computer decided to f**k with me and forced me to log out of the page and erased my comment before submitting it! I'm not rewriting it, so you get the short version.

Chicago has the highest gun related homicides in the country and also the strictest gun control laws.

Australia is not better because of their lack of guns. Rapes, beatings, sexual assaults and home invasions are rampant in Australia and no one has the ability to protect themselves. Yay, you took away the guns. Doesn't make any difference.

Um, since when were guns an important component in those crimes? You can't change everything with one law, but what you can change sometimes makes all the difference.

The shooter in Texas had his guns illegally. No law would have prevented the shooting.

I hate when that happens. Happened to me TWICE for the same comment the other day.

Laws are one thing, enforcement is another.
Also back like in the 60s in NYC, they started a program of assigning social workers to various street gangs. It even became a status thing, because if your gang didn't have one, it meant it wasn't much of a threat! (There's a reference to "Our worker" in the Orphans scene in The Warriors) So their influence helped change gang culture in terms of gun and other violence.
In places like Chicago and Detroit, little effort has been made to try to change things, and as their slums sink further into their own morass and gang culture becomes ever more ingrained, things only get worse.

I don't know the particulars of Aussie crime, but since we outdo all other industrilaized nations in such, the rates must be much lower than ours.

But yeah, stuff still happens. A trend started a few years ago in France of students knifing teachers!

Criminals aren't going to obey gun laws. The only thing those laws restrict are the people who obey the laws.

You can't stop yourself obeying gun laws if the gun isn't available to break the law.

Guns will always be "available" for criminals because they steal stuff. Including what? Guns.

So why create ANY laws to begin with? Criminals have an 'inexplciable' tendency to disobey them ALL as well. Religious commandments, laws, morals, mommy swinging a belt, and the threat of Bubba waiting to bunk with ya in jail, etc, have proven ineffective in taming the beast called man. So let's party!

You gotta have laws so that you can avoid having chaos in every single aspect of the country. Also so that it discourages certain crimes in general (since there's a penalty.) However, gun laws are really restricting to the wrong people. Do you know how many shootings have been prevented or stopped because a random upstanding citizen was able to do so with a gun?

With toddlers each year shooting and killing more Americans than Islamic terrorists, pray tell how will you stop the kids? Shoot them?

You don't leave a gun where a toddler can reach it. Seems pretty obvious to me. But a toddler won't seek out a gun to intentionally shoot someone like a criminal will.

You're seriously trying to tell me what laws are for?

Look below, I already said I don't want to derail this into a debate, and certainly not one that merely states the obvious.

There is that lack civility I was talking about!

I'm beginning to think that anyone who disagrees with you, you believe they have no civility. Disagreement isn't uncivilized. Two people can argue their point without things degrading into child-like behavior. Something you might want to try instead of trolling.

Actually I was referring to how you think one gun can stop another. That is not civility! That is wild west mentality!

Well, in this case the "wild west mentality" worked, so not sure what your point is. The shooting ended when two HEROES shot back.

Actually they shot at him after he left the church but okay.

Lol! He left because the two engaged him.

Gun laws do not stop people from shooting.Guns aren't evil.The people who use them for evil are.There are gun laws in this country.Look it up.

awesome meme

Thank you.

yea man I was readint some of the comments below from the one who deleted his account wtf is wrong with people you try and and a make a meme for a tragedy, and people take it the wrong way I dont understand there thought process that is for sure

Dude, the hell with all these people getting free points from terrorism, and horrible events.