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Deniers everywhere, but....
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I've studied the Christian arguments, evidence and "proof" for the resurrection of Jesus, and I find it all to be very unimpressive and unconvincing. That's just me, though.
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In both cases the primary proof is the same -- eyewitness testimony. (Photos can after all be staged, faked, and altered.) The only difference is that the eyewitnesses to the resurrection lived much longer ago, just like the eyewitnesses to any ancient historical event (the Maccabean War, the Siege of Jerusalem, etc.). The longer we go past the time of the moon landings and the Holocaust, the more widespread the deniers will get, until finally their conspiracy viewpoint becomes the mainstream. Just like with the resurrection.
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Well a lot of people do not believe because the amount of religions in existence. Christianity believers only take up less than 40% of the global population. The moon landings and the holocaust have physical proof like the bottom stage of the lunar lander still on the moon and the many concentration camps in Europe. All we have is the bible. Also with christianity taken inspiration from the pagan holidays.
Only 1/3 of the world population today has heard of the Holocaust and believes that it happened "as advertised". And that's with all the evidence -- and with events that happened less than 80 years ago, with survivors still living to confirm the stories. Care to guess what the world will think of the Holocaust a few hundred years from now? It'll be laughed off as a myth. People make up reasons to deny what they don't want to believe in. Just like with the resurrection. Christianity was based from the start on history and facts, and by its own tenets, the whole thing would be a complete sham without those facts.
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The reason many people (including myself) doubt the resurrection of Jesus is because it contains outlandish and hard-to-believe elements such as angels and other supernatural occurrences. The moon landing and Holocaust don't contain these elements.
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Except that there is abundant physical, photographic, eyewitness, and historical record supporting the two former, with next to none for the latter. None of the physical evidence from ~30 AD has survived. Cameras hadn't been invented yet. All the eyewitnesses had their stories recorded in a single document, which was first written down only hundreds of years after the alleged resurrection. In fact, no contemporary written records AT ALL depicting or alluding to the alleged resurrection have survived anywhere.
Meanwhile, the Apollo missions brought back approximately 400 kilograms of regolith, of undisputed lunar origin. There are also abundant photographs and medical reports of Holocaust survivors, and eyewitness accounts on the absolutely horrid treatment they received in the camps. The evidence was so overwhelming that 12 high-ranking Nazi Party officials were sentenced to death at the Nuremburg trials, and 11 of them eventually hanged.
Plenty of evidence from 30AD has survived, from the Western Wall to the Caiaphas Ossuary.
The bible is not "a single document", it's a compilation of separate manuscripts written by over a half-dozen different authors.
Reliance on copies of manuscripts (vs. the lost originals) is the norm in all studies of ancient history. The oldest copies of Josephus' works e.g. are translations from 400+ years after the originals, and the oldest copies in the original Greek are from 900+ years later. Yet these are still considered by historians as reliable. The oldest New Testament manuscripts are from within 200 years of the originals and there is no serious argument that the originals are from the first century AD.
If you believe anything at all about ancient history, you believe it based on long-after-the-fact copies and whatever archaeological evidence (limited as it may be) can be found.
False. The moon landing was faked by the government and the food corporations running it to provide false evidence for the rock lie.
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