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Slippery slope. yes they were "Christian" but they didn't confirm to the same type of Christianity. John Adams was a non-trinitarian Protestant. Jefferson rejected the idea of Christ as a Messiah and was self proclaimed deist. Unitarianism was rampant with a few founders. Jocobins and Lutherans were popular as were Anglicans.
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And ironically they modeled US government after Presbyterian church government. James Madison probably had the greatest single influence on the government structure in the Constitution. He was a graduate of the Presbyterian College of New Jersey, now Princeton University, and after graduating in 1771, he stayed another year or two to study with the college president, the Rev. John Witherspoon, who had recently arrived from Scotland to serve as the college’s sixth president. And although Madison appears to have been Episcopalian, his education clearly included heavy influence by the Presbyterian form of church government. Both governmental systems have strong similarities in their elected representative forms, the presence of checks and balances, and the appearance of different branches of government.
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Absolutely. Bringing up the greater Judaic influence from Scottish reformists.
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And they realized that not all men were Christian. That the reason they put in that blurb about there not being a government run church.

To this day, you cannot get any Christian group to agree which is the one true Christian faith.

I'm just glad I can pursue my belief without official persecution. That was what our founding fathers put in the Constitution. Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, etc.
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That blurb wasn't at wholly aimed at all different religions. Try living as a new in New England 1776. More it was aimed at not establishing a nationalized church.
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Correct. One reason why I pointed out the division within the Christian churches concerning the national church. Many of the founding fathers that turned to a church were members of the Anglican Church. While we think the Catholic Church strictly to the Spanish colonies, they were already here in the British colonies, well established in the New York area from the early Dutch settlers. Many native Americans had also become part the Catholic faith, although some still kept the practices and beliefs of the great spirit.

Being a Jew in New England was no picnic, but better than a Jew in Europe during the Spanish Inquisition. By 1790, with the Constitution firmly in place, including the first amendment, the number of Jews was about 1% of the US population. Unfortunately, they were bound by the Christian based laws, which included the Blue laws that prevented businesses from being open on a Sunday.

There is no record of even estimate of the number of Muslims in the US at the time the Constitution was ratified, but many laws, including those of who were allowed to be slaves, included members of that faith. While many converted to Christianity over the years, by choice or whip, the Muslim population was here. Records show several Muslims having fought on the colonist side of the Revolutionary war. The first nation to even recognize the US as a sovern nation was the Sultanate of Morocco, eben then a Muslim dominated country.

While the founding fathers were a majority of Christian men, the thought of fighting over which Christian belief was true was something they chose to bypass. Because of this, the first amendment has been interpreted to include any religion, or lack thereof, as a protected right. Community standards, OTOH, vary. An atheist friend was basically shunned in the small, Tennessee town he liived in because he wasn't a member of a local church. This was about 10 years ago.

Myself? I was raised Christian, but left the church decades ago. I believe in a higher power, but I do not believe that the Holy Bible, Catholic or Protestant version, is the absolute word of God.

And we can all live by the faith we believe because our founding fathers were unable to determine which Christian religion was the "one true faith".
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"Alternative Facts" are not, and never should be a thing
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John Jay became head of the American Bible Society. Benjamin Franklin called for prayers during the Constitutional Convention. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams wrote the Declaration of Independence's religious passages. George Washington acknowledged God's hand in the Revolution, and repeatedly expressed support for religious freedom. Alexander Hamilton and Samuel Adams were also Christians.
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Does that make atheists or muslims inferior in anyway? :I
If the founding fathers were conservative, they would be supporting Britain.
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"Conservative" and "liberal" are not positions, but directions on a spectrum. Going too far in either direction will result in oppression. Liberalism is where you take liberties with the Constitution, and with other people's rights and possessions. Conservatism is where you stick with what's been established--in our case, an already great Constitution.
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If liberals take other peoples' liberties, then why are conservatives threatening to take away LGBT protections?
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We're not. Gay and transgender people have the right to life and liberty. We don't want to discriminate against them in housing, employment, public transportation, etc. But we do care about OUR right to have freedom of conscience, to have our own beliefs and opinions. Conservatives are actually the ones mature enough to coexist with others, agreeing to disagree. Liberals, on the other hand, are trying to enforce uniformity of thought and opinion, which is the opposite of liberty and pluralism.
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It was the Freemasons, who are devil worshipers.
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actually some of them were deists, which means that they believed Jesus existed but not that He was a savior
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No. Thomas Jefferson was a deist. In fact, MOST of the founding fathers weren't christian.

“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” - John Adams
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...Which makes me wonder why nowadays over 40% of Republicans (at least the ones in House), want to dismantle the Constitution and rewrite it to fit in Christianity. Although if it's just about spirituality and there are no laws based around it, I admittedly won't mind.
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Where in the world did you get that stat? Republican Christians like the Constitution just the way it is. It just upsets us when people forget the spirit of the Declaration of Independence.
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Right here, sir. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_22415.pdf
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Bullshit
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It's all a lie thanks!
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